[Titanic]

Why not just wait for the LaCrosse? It's a much more modern vehicle. And it out-classes the MKZ in terms of exterior and interior style and fit/finish.

 

[Simon says]

It's not xenophobia...you and Simon need to look that term up.

And, I think my posting history is quite consistent. I don't care if it's GM, Ford, or Chrysler....outsourcing manufacturing jobs to third world countries--especially ones as America-hostle as Mexico is--at the expense of jobs in the U.S. JUST to be able to exploit people for their cheap labor at the detriment of the American middle and working classes is wrong. And I won't support a product from a company that goes that route.

Please don't ruin the thread. I already deleted my reference to your Mexican problem in the spirit of you deleting you tacky joke in a thread where a member is simply telling us about the car he ordered.

Why don't you please leave your geopolitical opinions for other threads and let this thread run its normal course? The memory of your unfortunate thread about this same car is too recent.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

But GMI's expert analysts said that no RWD-driving GM owner would switch to a FWD Ford!

 

[wescoent]

But GMI's expert analysts said that no RWD-driving GM owner would switch to a FWD Ford!

No. That's not true. THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!

 

[PA Dweller]

Good choice man, congratulations. Like the Milan and Fusion Ford did a good job updating the MKZ. I really dig the front end. Personally though I would have gone with AWD but it's still a great car without the option.

 

[Skank Boy]

I hope it looks better in person,in the pictures I'm looking @ it screams "low rent".

 

[longislander]

Good choice man, congratulations. Like the Milan and Fusion Ford did a good job updating the MKZ. I really dig the front end. Personally though I would have gone with AWD but it's still a great car without the option.

I've never had a winter driving issue with any of my FWD cars. Had I gone with another CTS, it would have been AWD, because the RWD was no fun to drive in the snow and ice.

 

[PA Dweller]

I've never had a winter driving issue with any of my FWD cars. Had I gone with another CTS, it would have been AWD, because the RWD was no fun to drive in the snow and ice.

The winter conditions in your state must be a lot less severe than where I am, even FWD doesn't work when the snow really comes down. It's ok after the snow is cleared but not before.

 

[Mustapha Mond]

Until I read this my image of Lincoln had not been remade since my memories of uncle Bill's 1979 Town Car, which to me was the epitome of American excess, but in a good way. And I do think that the Mark V is still the most beautiful luxury coupe ever designed.

So when I hopped over to the lincolncanada.com site and started looking I was very surprised that the vehicles didn't have that opulent feel anymore. The MKZ is a very well-designed vehicle with great proportions and a nicely organized interior. It is the sort of luxury car that is supposed to appeal to buyers like me.

It saddens me somewhat that the over-the-top feeling that Lincolns used to give me are no longer. I guess that's progress, or maybe the customers for that kind of car are dying off. Uncle Bill's Town Car used to seem like it was floating down the road, you never felt or heard much of anything when riding in it. Of course you didn't take corners very fast with so much weight and such soft suspension, but then no one expected you to. People don't want "traditional" American luxo-barges anymore which I think is a tragedy.
-Elliott

 

[Simon says]

Until I read this my image of Lincoln had not been remade since my memories of uncle Bill's 1979 Town Car, which to me was the epitome of American excess, but in a good way. And I do think that the Mark V is still the most beautiful luxury coupe ever designed.

So when I hopped over to the lincolncanada.com site and started looking I was very surprised that the vehicles didn't have that opulent feel anymore. The MKZ is a very well-designed vehicle with great proportions and a nicely organized interior. It is the sort of luxury car that is supposed to appeal to buyers like me.

It saddens me somewhat that the over-the-top feeling that Lincolns used to give me are no longer. I guess that's progress, or maybe the customers for that kind of car are dying off. Uncle Bill's Town Car used to seem like it was floating down the road, you never felt or heard much of anything when riding in it. Of course you didn't take corners very fast with so much weight and such soft suspension, but then no one expected you to. People don't want "traditional" American luxo-barges anymore which I think is a tragedy.
-Elliott

I hear you. But think of it, of all makers it is Lexus the one that makes the real updated version of the classic American luxury sedan in the form of the GS line.

Lincoln however, with the MKS makes a sumptuous interior that pays homage to the Lincolns of the recent past.

As for the ride, disconnected and abandoned I guess that the Germans reeducated us out of that and what used to be the ultimate luxury ride now is a joke or a good memory that for some reason you should be ashamed of. I only experienced that kind of ride as a little kid and most guys here never experienced it all all and yet you hear kids talking about it here as if it was the ultimate insult and what brought the American car industry to its knees. Apparently today for a luxury car to have any credibility should perform as a hybrid between a rally car and a business jet.

 

[bigbuck16]

MKZ is a sweet car its better than the ES350 and Lacrosse,good choice.

 

[Butz]

let us know how it compares to the CTS

 

[W.A.F.U.]

Enjoy your new car and disregard any negative comments made here.

 

[FoMoCo man]

congrates!!! I know a guy that has one and he thinks its absoultly fantastic and so do I . really am happy for you

 

[BrickTamland]

Lincoln however, with the MKS makes a sumptuous interior that pays homage to the Lincolns of the recent past.

What Lincolns of the recent past? I look at that interior as something I have never seen out of Lincoln before, and that is a good thing.

 

[Butz]

And FWIW, I'd rather send money to a neighboring country (MKZ's made in a border state about 150 miles from the US border... I don't know how closed exactly the border is in that area, but if my [border] home area is any indication, money flows a lot both ways) than one halfway across the globe...

[/off-topic]

Same here
I personally would take Mexican over European or Asian. For various geopolitical issues:

• I'd rather Mexicans find a job in Mexico
• A prosperous Mexico is better for the US than a not prosperous Mexico.
• Mexico is part of NAFTA.

In addition a Mexican built car will have more USian components and USian engineering than a European or Asian built car, I think...

Sorry for going off topic

 

[mooseman]

Congrats. If I were in the market right now for one, it would definitely be on my list to check out. You definitely made all the right picks on the options, I'm sure it will be a looker when it gets here.

 

[2b2]

Oooo a sub-plot, I love sub-plots

...In addition a Mexican built car will have more USian components and USian engineering than a European or Asian built car, I think...

Sorry for going off topic

it's my (limited) understanding that the way U.S. windowstickers report content only reflects final assembly
and
many of the structures that boost Mexican content were semi-assembled AND BUILT in the U.S. by the 3rd party suppliers
before getting shipped to Hermosillo to get 'counted'

 

[Butz]

Oooo a sub-plot, I love sub-plots

it's my (limited) understanding that the way U.S. windowstickers report content only reflects final assembly
and
many of the structures that boost Mexican content were semi-assembled AND BUILT in the U.S. by the 3rd party suppliers
before getting shipped to Hermosillo to get 'counted'

So the Fusion, Milan and MKZ have more USian parts than is reported?

Because I personally don't care much about who nails the parts together as much as who does the research, design and engineering of the product.
Sure assembly is important, but since robots started replacing humans it doesn't matter anymore.

 

[Mustapha Mond]

Lincoln however, with the MKS makes a sumptuous interior that pays homage to the Lincolns of the recent past.

This is a much more flattering picture to the interior than any of the ones on the lincolncanada site. It is a very restrained but richly done and I would enjoy immensely. It beats my lil G5 interior all to bits :yup:
-Elliott