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Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

Mike The Canadian said:
most important part in my mind

Fuel consumption City: 13.0 L/100 km (22 mpg Imperial)
Hwy: 9.8 L/100 km (29 mpg Imperial)
The stick-equipped cars sip fuel at a decent rate. It's the automatics that are scary...at least compared to the rest of the class. I believe their numbers to be 18/26 imperial...
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe

andretti said:
The G6 GTP coupe is a fine car to be sure! In my mind it is just $3000 too high in price.
EXACTLY!
I find it a little hard to believe that the Coupes are more expensive than their 4 Door siblings.... What do you get for the extra cash??? 2 less doors, less head room in the back, etc...
I went to the lot when the first ones showed up in my area back in September and almost fell back on my ass is total disgust when I saw the sticker price. We bought a V6 G6 Sedan last year for about $21000 and it is nicely equipped. The G6 Coupes were starting off at $24000. WTF is wrong with this picture?!?!?!?!

A G6 GT Coupe should start off at 19,995 and a G6 GTP Coupe should start at $22,995. I think they hit the nail on the head in terms of the Sedans' pricing however.
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

Phillip said:
I forgot...is your car an automatic or a stick?
My GTP sedan is a 6-speed stick.

PontiacBixler said:
EXACTLY!
I find it a little hard to believe that the Coupes are more expensive than their 4 Door siblings.... What do you get for the extra cash??? 2 less doors, less head room in the back, etc...
I went to the lot when the first ones showed up in my area back in September and almost fell back on my ass is total disgust when I saw the sticker price. We bought a V6 G6 Sedan last year for about $21000 and it is nicely equipped. The G6 Coupes were starting off at $24000. WTF is wrong with this picture?!?!?!?!
The coupes are actually slightly cheaper than the 4-doors of equal trim levels.

Starting Prices:
GT Coupe: $22,995
GT Sedan: $23,180

GTP Coupe: $24,610
GTP Sedan: $24,835
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe

984mula said:
This is a prime example of GM trying to chase too many different things with one brand:

(Midsize performance coupe) G6 GTP - $36000

(Premium performance coupe) GTO - $32000

That is a serious problem. If you line up the Pontiac assortment, prices are all over the place. You cannot justify a lesser coupe in everyway being more expensive than the same brand's flagship coupe. People my age want to get the G6 coupe but are then turned away by the price. They then say, "I may as well get a Solstice or GTO!" Everytime. Why is Joe consumer always smarter than the largest car company in the world?!

Just doesn't make any sense to me...
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do you think I never would even consider it as a college student at a top university. It costs way to much d-a-m-n money for the car you get...why do you think I love the cobalt ss- s/c so much? Well, the price as well as the wheels, seats, LSD, wing, "SS", and the fact that it has a 2.0L s/c ecotec (BTW- one of ward's ten best engines of the year) whereas the g6 suffers from a strategic deficiency of boreing out 38/500 engines instead of investing in DOHC engines but w/e, the lineup will get changed over the next three years. :yup: :yup: :yup: Maybe if GM sold the coupe at 16,500$ with the 4 cylinder coupe, 19000$ for the 3500 series V6 G6 coupe, and 23000$ for the GTP. 30,000$ for a gtp when i can get a GTO for 32,000 LMFAO:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

Wife and I just got back from test driving a 2006 GT coupe. Put on 30km.White with ebony interior. It has some nice features for a car in this class like adjustable pedals, tilt/telscopic steering column, power/heated seats, manumatic, sunroof with blocker, command start etc. It was an auto but thats fine as she needs a car to replace the Alero, mostly commute.

First impressions are very good. I could nit pick a few things here or there but could also do that to the Honda we test drove. Not much point (I do like the cupholders out in the open though, who needs a stupid lid in the way when you actually have a drink in them?). LOTS of rear seat legroom, but I am 6 foot tall so headroom a bit short. Not often anywhere back in there anyway. Trunk is surprisingly large.

The only real issue she has is the back window size and location makes it hard to see behind the car for parallel parking. Function of styling as the 4 door is fine in that regard (she will NOT buy a four door, bless her!). Shoulder checking is fine, side mirrors a tad small perhaps. Seemed to have plenty of jam for the base engine, smooth, quality seemed not bad, gaps very nice (esp on a white car, they are easy to spot).

Only other issue is the high beltline. Not a big deal, but it does make the side glass shorter and makes you feel like you are sitting "deep". Kind of like my ram am bird used to do...

Ride was ok, some of our roads are crap and nothing takes them nice, highway was excellent, handling was good. I did not drive so all seat of the pants. Sales man insisted on riding along. Stereo sounded "ok", heater fan did seem kind of loud, but the vents are nicely done and large so lots of flow. Not crazy about DIC in radio though, heard about some issues with that. Signal lights sounded nice.Not crazy about the red lighting (somebody should send Pontiac a copy of the air force study that decided that red was the WORST possible color choice for instrumentation-hard to read at a glance and hard on the eyes). I know, its kind of odd the things you notice.

Price is 33,000.00 CANADIAN. You cannot do direct exchange by the way, GM has their own pricing policy. There was a red GTP there, manaul, loaded except for the sunroof, it was 35K CANADIAN.

Overall, she likes it. We will see what happens. There really is't much choice out there right now for smaller 2 door coupes around this price range. The ones we have driven the G6 is the best combo so far.

Just thought I'd throw this out there. Feel free to comment (keep it civil).

later
Tim
PS Where are you guys getting your prices from?? I just priced out a GTP G6 coupe at Pontiac .com, minus side airbags, cd changer but pretty much everything else, it was 26K US??
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

MittarFulgar said:
The GTP really only should be had as a coupe with the manual transmission. A sedan or an automatic really ruins the whole image, and I can't imagine it would be the same driving experience with four doors or a pathetic 4-speed.
uhhh, yeah, amen. Do they sell the cobalt ss - s/c as a auto, he11 no! The standard ss models are but not the ss- s/c. at least chevy does it the "right way"
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

I'd rather have a cts 2.8L with a 5speed for 30K. If this were the aura redline for 30,000. Then yes I would pay 30K but the G6 has an antiquated engine, underwhelming styling, and that can almost buy a GTO. You can buy a scion TC with just as nice an interior, panoramic roof, and upgrade it up the whazoo with aftermarket parts...and its 18000 loaded.
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

This is my next car. I am in a deep state of lust with the Crimson Red G6 GTP with a 6 Spd and the Tan Leather. Gotta have the power sunroof and the XM.

8 more months of the Aztek.....then the G6 is mine.
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

Steel4ring said:
This is my next car. I am in a deep state of lust with the Crimson Red G6 GTP with a 6 Spd and the Tan Leather. Gotta have the power sunroof and the XM.

8 more months of the Aztek.....then the G6 is mine.
You'll like it...as for styling, its subjective so don't listen to the naysayers. And as for price, I can't figure out where these guys get their prices, I can tell you a Honda Accord EX V6 machine STARTS at 34K Canadian (FOUR color choices too, black, gray, dark blue, and ugly silver!!). Can't even figure out options as their Can. website is whacked out...

And yeah, red with tan is awesome combo.

later
Tim
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

Ya gotta take a look at all of the standard features before you decide if a price is too high or not. Consider the electronic features, tire/wheel package , horsepower is another. Things may be better than they seem when all is considered. IMO the G6 is a sweet looking ride in sedan or coupe . It is clean and sleek and the fit and finish is on par with the Toyohonda stuff or better. Ah...if only the Grand Am had been this good 3 years back.
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

GMlvrsince72 said:
Ya gotta take a look at all of the standard features before you decide if a price is too high or not. Consider the electronic features, tire/wheel package , horsepower is another. Things may be better than they seem when all is considered.
Exactly, everyone sees a number and gets hung up on it, like you said you need to consider the package.

IMHO the G6 coupe is a great lookiing car.

later
Tim
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

Honda Accord Coupe, 6Speed Manual: 244hp/211 torque
Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe, 6 Speed Manual: 240hp/231 torque

Not a big deal, until you realize Torque is the only thing that matters. The G6 gets that torque at 2800 RPM...the Honda reaches their peak torque at 5,000 RPM. When you need to gitty up/hurry up...the G6 is going to put you into warp drive from the stoplight....also with all that torque, you will be shifting less than you would in the Accord Coupe...trust me...a torque monster is the way to go with a manual tranny. Keep it in 3rd and drive all day (almost).

Also, I priced up a nearly loaded G6 GTP Coupe w/ the Red Tag Sale: $24,000 US$. The Accord Coupe with similar options: $27,000 ($29,000 with nav system).

The G6 looks great and will do just fine.

Anyone else notice that Pontiacs sold better with the Plastic Side Cladding that all the car mags ripped on? Just an observation!
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

The sales numbers may have been higher but is sure was NOT the cladding doing it. The new Pontiacs looks WAY better without all the crap hanging on them.
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

RadRiv455 said:
Honda Accord Coupe, 6Speed Manual: 244hp/211 torque
Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe, 6 Speed Manual: 240hp/231 torque

Not a big deal, until you realize Torque is the only thing that matters. The G6 gets that torque at 2800 RPM...the Honda reaches their peak torque at 5,000 RPM. When you need to gitty up/hurry up...the G6 is going to put you into warp drive from the stoplight....also with all that torque, you will be shifting less than you would in the Accord Coupe...trust me...a torque monster is the way to go with a manual tranny. Keep it in 3rd and drive all day (almost).

Also, I priced up a nearly loaded G6 GTP Coupe w/ the Red Tag Sale: $24,000 US$. The Accord Coupe with similar options: $27,000 ($29,000 with nav system).

The G6 looks great and will do just fine.

Anyone else notice that Pontiacs sold better with the Plastic Side Cladding that all the car mags ripped on? Just an observation!
Isn't it 241lb-ft?

Have you driven a manual G6 GTP?

I don't understand why everyone keeps saying the low-end torque makes such a difference in this car. It really doesn't. It doesn't really start moving until after 3,500 or 4,000 rpm. All the low-end torque does for this car is create wheelspin and torque-steer. And first gear is all but useless as it winds out way too soon. And the gap between first and second is rather large.

The 3.9L is a fun engine, but you have to keep it high in the rev-band in order for it to do its magic. And in that way, it's not all that different from a DOHC Honda engine.
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

personally, i like the looks of the car. i dont know why everyone incriminates all versions of this car as being bland or overpriced. its clean shapen in an almost audi way, and from what ive heard from my friends who own them they love it. as far as the engine, i think any GM fan knows the DOHC/Pushrod argument.
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe

CobaltSScrazy said:
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do you think I never would even consider it as a college student at a top university. It costs way to much d-a-m-n money for the car you get...why do you think I love the cobalt ss- s/c so much? Well, the price as well as the wheels, seats, LSD, wing, "SS", and the fact that it has a 2.0L s/c ecotec (BTW- one of ward's ten best engines of the year) whereas the g6 suffers from a strategic deficiency of boreing out 38/500 engines instead of investing in DOHC engines but w/e, the lineup will get changed over the next three years. :yup: :yup: :yup: Maybe if GM sold the coupe at 16,500$ with the 4 cylinder coupe, 19000$ for the 3500 series V6 G6 coupe, and 23000$ for the GTP. 30,000$ for a gtp when i can get a GTO for 32,000 LMFAO:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Ugh, another OHC kool-aid drinker. The V6s in the G6 are not simply bored out from any older engine. The 3500 is a greatly refined and modified evolution of an engine dating from the 80s. The NVH levels are good, so good that it doesn't need NVH-fighting shafts. The 3900 is an all-new design featuring VVT and excellent NVH levels. Given the size, weight, and price advantage of the 3900 I would take it over a Japanese OHC engine easily - it's marvelous technology.

Considering the GTP sedan was red-tag priced at 22k, it is an amazing car for the money. I'm a grad student at a "top university" and I would most certainly consider it. :)
 
Re: Test Drive: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe - "A car transformed"

a fair review. i just wish that the manual was availiable in all models

Alan
 
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