[Robert1969]

Sadly, the older I get and the more I see, leave's less that I will apply the moniker "jaw-dropping" to. But, it's a headline to capture our attention.

I do think Cadillac has mostly figured it out. I do think they still get more criticism for cost cutting that is equally present in some of the other established luxury brands. But that is something Cadillac needs to continue to work through as their journey from tarnished brand to desirable brand continues. Cadillac needs to continue to prove the naysayers wrong.

Ok. I’ve edited the title.

Nonetheless, I find the sky cool grey with the Santorini blue accents to be a an eye-popping and completely original in a luxury production vehicle. It looks more like what you’d see in a concept car. Can you think of any modern production vehicle with colors like that?

 

[BlackGTP]

Ok. I’ve edited the title.

Nonetheless, I find the sky cool grey with the Santorini blue accents to be a an eye-popping and completely original in a luxury production vehicle. It looks more like what you’d see in a concept car. Can you think of any modern production vehicle with colors like that?

You didn't need to change the title, it was fine. It's a headline meant to grab one's attention.

 

[mgescuro]

I do think Cadillac has mostly figured it out. I do think they still get more criticism for cost cutting that is equally present in some of the other established luxury brands. But that is something Cadillac needs to continue to work through as their journey from tarnished brand to desirable brand continues. Cadillac needs to continue to prove the naysayers wrong.

Everyone cost cuts. It's just a matter of where the cost cutting takes place, and is it actually tangible to the driver.
Previously, Cadillac's cost cutting was plainly in the interior, where you sit and touch and feel every day. That makes it very obvious. They've at least fixed that, for the most part.
A lot of the switchgear didn't sound or feel premium. A lot of the lettering on buttons would wear out over time. There was a lot of flex in the plastic and panels, which didn't give a perception of being solidly built. Again, much of that has been fixed or improved.

As I've always said, it's matter of attention to details. Keep improving on those details and moving the needle. The competition certainly doesn't rest on its laurels.
I've seen a concerted effort at Genesis to improve these details. They're about one model cycle away from being on par with the Germans, though, BMW has certainly raised the bar more than I thought they would. Mercedes though, has fallen back a bit with their use of cheap plastics in very noticeable places.

With time, perceptions about Cadillacs will improve. But it will take time, and that's the issue GM/Cadillac has always had — allowing Cadillac the time to bake in the changes and improvements.

 

[Cobaltss_King]

Do you have any insight as to entry price? Late fall arrival?

I’d imagine a late summer to fall arrival. Should be before the Vistiq with a starting price around 55k. It seems like it’s closer in size to the XT5 vs the XT4. Just like the EV Blazer is slighter bigger than the gas counterpart.

 

[Scrambler]

The Optiq is noticeably more compact, lighter, and should be cheaper. Lyriq’s classy little brother. We’ll see.

2025 Cadillac Optiq Is the Lyriq's Smaller Electric-SUV Sibling

We don't have details or specs yet, but the Optiq looks stylish and should share components with the Chevy Blazer EV and Equinox EV models.

www.caranddriver.com

My comment was strictly about interior.

 

[Envoy4Life]

So what really happened here? Did your wife leave you for someone that drove a Lyric or something? You go out of your way to trash the Lyric every chance you get. Enquiring minds want to know.

It’s just not that great of a car, and I feel that GMI drools over and overrates it because it’s a Cadillac EV. I think it’s ugly from the outside and cheaply made/poorly built on the inside. It also drives like a yacht, but I’m not as hung up on that because it’s a heavy EV SUV. On topic of driving, I don’t like the way the Model Y drives, but do like the way Mach-E drives for what it’s worth.

The Lyriq does nothing for me. I don’t see the hype, sorry.

 

[91fairladyZ]

I don't know, I've yet to see a truly negative review of the Lyriq from any major outlet. Not all of them will rave about it, but they all say it's a solid car worth a look.

 

[Envoy4Life]

They’ve talked about build quality in quite a few reviews, and it still hasn’t seemed to be fixed in the various ones I’ve been in and driven over the past year. I don’t recall it winning many comparison test reviews, either.

Overall to me the Lyriq doesn’t really bring anything special to the table compared to the competition. It has… daring… errr… unique styling? I think that’s how I’m going to describe it? Otherwise, it is slow, range is meh, it drives poorly, it’s shoddily built, and to top it off is pretty expensive to buy new.

But clearly that’s the minority opinion on GMI on it. Which is fine. Buy whatever makes you happy.

 

[Envoy4Life]

Anyways regarding the Optiq, it isn’t a bad interior, it’s just anonymous for being a Cadillac. If you covered the steering wheel badging and told me it was a Buick I’d probably believe you.

 

[MisterMe]

Anyways regarding the Optiq, it isn’t a bad interior, it’s just anonymous for being a Cadillac. If you covered the steering wheel badging and told me it was a Buick I’d probably believe you.

You are conflating two different situations. Whether or not you recognize the OptIQ with its steering wheel covered and badges removed as a Cadillac is irrelevant to most observers. What is important to me and most reasonably informed fans is that the car is instantly recognizable as a Cadillac, with or without badging.

Word to the Wise: Asserting that you cannot tell the difference between a Buick and a Cadillac is not your smoothest move.

 

[Envoy4Life]

You’re a big Cadillac fan. Most people are not, and you are in the minority.

This interior is far from unique and can be easily mistaken for a Buick with badging covered. Your bias is showing.

 

[91fairladyZ]

You’re a big Cadillac fan. Most people are not, and you are in the minority.

This interior is far from unique and can be easily mistaken for a Buick with badging covered. Your bias is showing.

OK, have to disagree there, Buick styling is very different from current Cadillac styling on the inside. There is no mistaking one for the other. And I'm a Caddy fan who currently drives a Buick if that means anything.

 

[09W]

"Most" people are not a "big fan" of ANY given brand, therefore putting 'most' people into a "minority".

As if that mattered or was worth pointing out.

 

[Captain Chaos]

I’m a huge Cadillac fan. Really like their new interiors. Exteriors of the EV’s are a tragedy though. They are amongst the most awkward looking vehicles built today. Seeing all the EV Cadillacs loitering on my local dealers lot seem to paint a picture of what the buying public think too.

 

[09W]

If the Lyriq is a 'tragedy', many of the others must be a 'diaster':

 

[91fairladyZ]

Lyriq is gorgeous in person

 

[Cobaltss_King]

Lyriq is gorgeous in person

I saw the green for the first time yesterday. That and the blue look perfect.

 

[Envoy4Life]

All of those CUVs are dull, uninspired designs. Some are worse than others, but none are as flat out ugly as the Lyriq.

But honestly? I don’t care. If some random electric Cadillac CUV makes you hard, go for it my guy. I genuinely don’t care. The car industry as a whole nowadays is boring with EV/CUV everything, and there just aren’t many things out there I give a **** about and will passionately care about. Everything looks the same on the outside, and now with the whole screen fad, inside too. I literally could not care less about the Lyriq, or GM/Cadillac in general at this point.

Knock yourselves out though. Clearly the Lyriq is a fan favorite on GMI so who am I to pee in your Wheaties?

 

[sfbreh]

You’re a big Cadillac fan. Most people are not, and you are in the minority.

This interior is far from unique and can be easily mistaken for a Buick with badging covered. Your bias is showing.

I’m not going to argue all day long about it, but I disagree and think it’s your bias that’s showing. There’s a similarity, but it doesn’t take away from the pleasantness of the design and IRL nobody is going to really care.

Lyriq is gorgeous in person

I’m inclined to agree. Lyriq is eye-catching in the wild, but it’s a little polarizing—I think that’s good, though. I have only met boring people who think it’s genuinely ugly, and the interior looks really nice.

As far as quality goes, I don’t care enough to go to a dealer and check so I have no opinion. I know there was a software issue, but it looks nice and that’s as far as my interest goes these days.

I think both interiors are very pleasant-looking and sophisticated, which is a big leap from what they used to be. The biggest shame about all these new cars they’re coming up with is that it’s the level they should have been executing on the whole time, but now I’m not interested because they’re all electric. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

Again: hybrid—up my alley and I have two, electric—completely disinterested

 

[Envoy4Life]

Lol what bias?

The design itself is pleasant and inoffensive. Like a Buick would be. But again, it’s derivative and doesn’t bring anything new to the table as far as design goes. Celestiq is unique. Escalade IQ is unique. They are Cadillac through and through. This is not. Which, whatever. It’s an entry level EV CUV and it looks fine for what it is. But it certainly isn’t a showstopper or anything earth shattering and that’s just fine.