They so wanted to be like the old GM. They seem to have it down pat. Gotta hand it to them.

 

 

"...and how the issue was addressed."

So is Toyota relying on dealers to come up with fixes to their problms these days?

 

Hang on, body panels that are not flush and they don't know how to fix it???

 

Toyota wanted to be #1, well there you have it. LOL

 

Screw Toyota! I hate them! This serves them right. I am glad Karma is finally catching up with them for years of screwing the public with their lies.

 

The big difference is GM catches hell when someone thinks there's a problem. With Toyota, they get praise for making a lousy products.

 

I seem to remember a problem or two with the 2010 Camaro when it was first released. Customers complained and dealers were instructed to fix the issues. It's a joint effort that is in the infancy of its release, people. Go figure!

 

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Consumer Reports!

 

HAHAHAA!!!
Toyota/Scion makes more junk!!
Available now.


!!!

 

I don't know about everyone's "junk" reactions. All carmakers have problems - it's how they deal with them. That's where GM really fell down - customer service. It depends what toyota is going to do with this info - us it to help the customer or to battle the customer.

 

How do they deal with the issue? They ask their dealers how they fixed it

 

Well at least the cars are not running away from owners and this time its the other way around..

build quality is so poor...the owners are bitching...

(J/k) its a nice car and I'm sure the bugs will be worked out..

 

Toyota, the Teflon coated company who some thinks they can not do any wrong, is making crap again. This won't have any effects with Consumer Reports, the ones who puts Toyota on the pedestal.

 

Whatever we say - still doesn't make a difference. Did anyone look at their sales #'s for May? Toyota was UP in sales 63% in Canada and 84% in the US. GM was up 1.3% in Canada and 10% in the US for new sales... people still are flocking to them!

 

That is b/c people are stupid & buy a brand of vehicle of a foreign car company that claims to be American(wrapping itself in Americana) when it is not, nor will ever be.

Honda is doing the same **** w/there Odyssey minivan.

They've both got to cut that **** out now!!!

!!!

 

So, Toyota, like all auto manufacturers as far as I know, tracks problems with vehicles, and now Toyota is communicating these problems to dealers. Hopefully these issues will get resolved appropriately. I don't think this is out of the ordinary (based on the limited information we have - Ed753 is correct that we need more information to know how significant these problems are).

 

Wow... You people make it sound like first-run vehicles from GM are all flawless.

 

No, what most people are trying to say is that if this was a Ford or GM vehicle the media would be all over it proclaiming it was "typical Detroit". And the Asian fanbois would be smirking about how this would never happen if it were Toyota or Honda.

Today I saw 2 new Ford Tauruses and the gaps were amazingly tight and exact and equal all around. Ford is making hundreds of thousands of Tauruses and the visible build quality is amazing. Toyota is building a few FRS's and the gaps aren't the same on either side of the car according to Toyota!

I still recall pictures from the 80s where Toyota would highlight the gaps on GM or Ford vehicles in yellow wax crayon to illustrate how much better their fit and finish was at the time. Now that their fit and finish has fallen behind Detroit and Korea we're supposed to give them a free pass? No way. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

So basically Toyota said "Here are some quality issues we have, now figure it out on your own".

 

Tailight condensation... sounds like a '94 Seville!
Here's a top tip - drill some small holes in the bottom of the lense. Condensation wil go away!
No, I'm not kidding... it worked on my wife's car. Of course this should never happen in 2012.

 

 

Highly Agree :hyper::Club:

 

Karma coming back to bite Toyota - Honda experiencing it. This is just delicious. Meanwhile Nissan is rocking, Hyundai, Kia, and Ford are dancing, and that rescued company with the stupid blue square just looks plain silly.

 

It sounds like they may have rushed the FR-S to market a little quicker than they should have.

Does anyone know if the FR-S is built at the Subaru factory along with the BRZ or does Toyota build their version in their own factory? From what I have been able to find, it seems that they are all built at Subaru however I didn't put a lot of effort into researching it.

If they are all being built by Subaru, I have to say, Toyota doesn't really deserve the blame here, Subaru does. It might also explain why Toyota is a little behind the 8 ball with regards to the fix for the issues.

It seems like both issues should be easy to correct however it sure is a shame that quality issues are already coming to light.

 

You are correct, Subaru builds both cars in their factory with their workers.

 

Toyota is not perfect, GM is not perfect.

 

Toyota is far from perfect, but Consumer Reports thinks so and so does a lot of consumers.....look at the sales number. Undeserving I would have to say. Wake people!

 

You guys obviously have no idea what it's like to manufacture something, or work in a dealership to repair it. I do, having once been the guy who would draft things like this (we called the Service Bulletins). EVERY company will have some kind of issue. The big thing is how do they handle it. Toyota is PROACTIVELY going out to the dealers and saying "if you see this, let us know" so they can quantify any problems and work towards solutions. This is a good process, and shows character and that they want to keep customers happy.

GM would not tell the techs, and GM would not gather the info, and GM would not come up with a fix. I know it was eons ago....but all I can remember is the paint pealing off our '86 Suburban and GM saying they had never heard of it.

 

" Toyota quality " is perhaps a statement not utterly divergent now from " Jumbo Shrimp ".

 

Did you get a Thesaurus for Christmas last year or do you just like to try to sound intelligent?

Just curious.

BTW, I am not a fan of Toyota, but why such hatred for Japan?

 

:lmao::fall:

Every forum has to have one. Never fails.

 

It is simple to get a great deal on a new car if you know where to go. You can try going to each car dealership and asking, but that is a long task if you live in Atlanta like me. There is actually a site I found where it shows all the prices and lets you compare cars.