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magneto112 said:
LOL....never been labeled a Honda fanboy before. That is definitely a first. :D Im not a big Honda fan to begin with if that means anything to you, however I do give credit where credit is due. However you are right. It is not a real "truck" with true offroad capabilities. Everything was just coming from the top of my head quickly as I was typing this up (I guess that is why this is not my profession :D ).

I know the previous MDX was built on the Odyssey platform, however I am not sure about the new one. I know that the RDX is built on an exclusive platform now, so I am thinking the same for the new MDX.
I figured it was a typo, but anytime someone gets too excited about a Honda product I feel the need to assume the worst. :) I do the same to my fellow GM fans. Seriously though, it was a great review, my only advice is to temper the excitement a bit, this is after all an SUV, that could easily be outhandled by just about any car sold today. So - it may handle great for an SUV, but at times in the review it made it sound like its a competitor to sports cars with sports car handling. I'm sure it runs circles around a Sienna or Odyssey, but its not going to beat a Sonata, let alone a GTO around a track anytime soon. Otherwise, nice work.

Its on a modified Odyssey platform. Honda doesn't know how to build dedicated platforms, thats why they are so successful, but why vehicles like the RL and to an extent the ridgeline aren't taken seriously.

Civic = Element, CRV, from there RDX

Accord = TL, RL, odyssey (from odyssey modified to Pilot/MDX, then modified further to ridgeline)

S2000, NSX are on something different.

TSX is the Euro spec Accord, which is on if I recall correctly a short wheelbase Accord platform.
 
magneto112 said:
Cool that you have a different opinion. What exactly are your choices that gives you 300hp, sporty handling, adjustable suspension with comfort and sport modes, rear DVD, excellent build quality, argueably the best Navi system in the industy with Real Time traffic, coupled with your usual Acura standard features for 48K (with a starting price of 39K)?? I wouldnt call it a steal by any means, but I do consider it competitive and directly in line with its competitors (beating the more expensive MB and BMW models). :)
youre willing to pay 50K for a vehicle. Then when you get in a wreck whoever is in the back seats will be going out the back window! Have a great time:clap:
 
magneto112 said:
Ouch!! That sucks. I actually didnt notice the seat clearance with this SUV. Good catch. I'll have to look at it again when I get a chance. I hope this doesnt raise serious issues down the road.
Yup, Rendevous and Highlander get dinged for this as well as the Pilot. Don't put anything you care about in the third row. Thats why the Lambda trio are such game changers. SUV looks and some capability, minivan safety and cargo capacity as well as MPG. Really the better vehicle if you have a family larger than 4.
 
327 said:
youre willing to pay 50K for a vehicle. Then when you get in a wreck whoever is in the back seats will be going out the back window! Have a great time:clap:
Most people don't plan to get into a crash at all.
Somehow I think sales will not be hurt by this.
 
goblue said:
Yup, Rendevous and Highlander get dinged for this as well as the Pilot. Don't put anything you care about in the third row. Thats why the Lambda trio are such game changers. SUV looks and some capability, minivan safety and cargo capacity as well as MPG. Really the better vehicle if you have a family larger than 4.
Who dinged the Pilot and Highlander for this?
 
uboys said:
Who dinged the Pilot and Highlander for this?
there was an insurance institute for highway safety documentary on it with the help of dateline, or something.

You're right, it won't really affect sales, but this is sort of a Darwinian point.
 
I can't stand the grill and the center console on the MDX! I do like the body design though. Looks bold like the Saturn Outlook.
 
magneto112 said:
Cool that you have a different opinion. What exactly are your choices that gives you 300hp, sporty handling, adjustable suspension with comfort and sport modes, rear DVD, excellent build quality, argueably the best Navi system in the industy with Real Time traffic, coupled with your usual Acura standard features for 48K (with a starting price of 39K)?? I wouldn't call it a steal by any means, but I do consider it competitive and directly in line with its competitors (beating the more expensive MB and BMW models). :)
At a minimum I'd test drive the following:

Cadillac SRX V6 or V8

GMC Acadia, Saturn Outlook, Buick Enclave

Ford Edge & Lincoln's new Crossover

Toyota RAV4

Mazda's CX7 or 9

Subaru's Tribeca

Volvo's XC90 (V8 available! So is $10k off sticker...)

Land Rover LR3 or Range Rover sport

Infiniti FX35

Saab 9-7X
 
GM2006 said:
The RDX is on the CRV paltform. Same factory, same assembly line.
The RDX is built in Marysville, Ohio along with the Accord and the TL.

The CR-V is built in East Liberty, Ohio with the Civic and the Element.
 
Gretchen said:
The RDX is built in Marysville, Ohio along with the Accord and the TL.

The CR-V is built in East Liberty
, Ohio with the Civic and the Element.
Not yet it isn't.

The RDX and CR-V only share about 10% of their parts.

The CR-V and Element are ceratainly not on the same platform as a Civic. They are similar, but to look underneath at them, the differences are numerous. The Pilot/MDX/Ridgeline don't have the same platform as the Odyssey either. Some things are similar, but they are quite structurally.
 
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327 said:
youre willing to pay 50K for a vehicle. Then when you get in a wreck whoever is in the back seats will be going out the back window! Have a great time:clap:
:rolleyes: So I guess that applies for all midsized SUV's then right?? Please, anybody who considers the 3rd row seats useable for any person is crazy. Sorry, but not one midsize SUV in this class has usable room for a third row. I wouldnt even want to put a kid back there. If your looking for a SUV with a comfortable 3rd row, you should be looking at Fullsized SUV's. IMO these extra two seats are put there just for auto companies to say they offer such a feature (flexibilty) or possibly one-up the competition. Its rediculous and IMO shouldnt even be offered in this class at all.
 
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Tiger said:
At a minimum I'd test drive the following:

Cadillac SRX V6 or V8

GMC Acadia, Saturn Outlook, Buick Enclave

Ford Edge & Lincoln's new Crossover

Toyota RAV4

Mazda's CX7 or 9

Subaru's Tribeca

Volvo's XC90 (V8 available! So is $10k off sticker...)

Land Rover LR3 or Range Rover sport

Infiniti FX35

Saab 9-7X
Cant be mad if someone picks any of these over the MDX, but I still stand by what I said as this being a highly competitive vehicle (as its always has been). However, I never said it was the end all be all either. But there are a few vehicles you mentioned that arent even in the same class and some that even cost a lot more. As a SUV that has great handling, wonderful features, great build quality among other things, its hard to not even consider looking at (unless you just dont like Acura or the way it looks etc etc).
 
Discussion starter · #37 ·
Johnny P said:
The RDX and CR-V only share about 10% of their parts.
Yep, I forget who mentioned this, but the RDX isnt built off of the Civic platform. It definitely was in consideration, but Acura wanted to use the SH-AWD system in the RDX, and the Civic CR-V platform would not allow this system to be utilized. Thus they built it off of its own platform. Which is why I was wondering if the 2007 MDX is still based on the Odyessey platform and if the SH-AWD could fit in the Odyessey.
 
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mgescuro said:
The dashboard looks like they lifted it off a B9 Tribeca. :blink:
I dont consider it a bad thing. I actually like the Tribeca's interior. But the exterior is :barf:

IMO it looks more like the RL interior.
 
goblue said:
Yup, Rendevous and Highlander get dinged for this as well as the Pilot. Don't put anything you care about in the third row. Thats why the Lambda trio are such game changers. SUV looks and some capability, minivan safety and cargo capacity as well as MPG. Really the better vehicle if you have a family larger than 4.
I never looked at the Pilot's and Highlander's third rows, but I did notice this same thing last January with the Hyundai Santa Fe.

Definitely will not be an issue with the Lambdas. :cool:
 
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