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The hood does seem, compared to other cars, kinda short. But I believe that is because it is higher. If the hood were lengthened, the fornt overhang would then be greater and that is a sin tatamount to murder. Also, the windsield rake might be so extreme that it lands further forward, shortening the length of the hood.

I said it had the proportions of the Intrepid. I didn't say it was a dead ringer. The proportions make it look more like a tarted up family car than an upscale luxury car.

If you took the same design details of the XTS concept and applied them to a RWD architecture, it would be a completely different story. Cadillac knows this car is a stop-gap to fill a void left by two outgoing models, not the luxury vehicle they aspire to build. Its certainly not the car I aspire to own.
 
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That's true. I always forget about the 300 because it used to have a crummy interior, which of course is no longer the case.
 
This shot makes the hood perfectly normal:
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Her's a good one too:
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I'm one who initially loved the XTS Platinum Concept's design... And I like it even more today. I'm hoping the production version doesn't stray too far from the concept's design... I've heard the production version will be a little longer, but that's all I've heard from my source regarding the XTS... I've asked quite a few questions that have gone unanswered regarding this model: Interior, powertrains, pricing...
 
Good, I'm glad its gone. Now Cadillac can continue its transition to edging styling and performance oriented luxury driving. When the average Joe on the street hears Cadillac, I would rather have him think of CTS-Vs and Coupes rather than a dated DTS.
 
XTS, if it looks anything like the concept, will be an ungainly tall thing with the proportions of a Dodge Intrepid. The concept has a gorgeous interior, but the body just doesn't have the proportions of an upscale car.

It has a few sharp design details, like the tail lights, so maybe if they continue massaging and perfecting the body we'll end up with something nice.

Until then, it looks like this market belongs to Hyundai with its Genesis and Equus.
I agree.. The XTS looks very boring from the side.. Very un-Cadillac-like.. I like the rear and pretty much the front - and the interior is excellent.. It's not on my list of possibilities, however...

The comfort cruiser is alive and well, it just looks a little different now. (SUV)
Eh.. Too big for too many people.. Not everyone wants an SUV. Too heavy on gas as well..

Cadillac knows this car is a stop-gap to fill a void left by two outgoing models, not the luxury vehicle they aspire to build. Its certainly not the car I aspire to own.
Exactly.. And, yes - it's a stop-gap car...

Let's not forget, Chrysler's LY sisters. The 300 is quite good.
That's true. I always forget about the 300 because it used to have a crummy interior, which of course is no longer the case.
Very true about the new 300.. What an improvement on the inside.. Hyundai (and Kia) are definitely replacing the Town Car and DeVille with the Equus and K9 (not the official name) and the Chrysler 300C is another option...

Good, I'm glad its gone. Now Cadillac can continue its transition to edging styling and performance oriented luxury driving. When the average Joe on the street hears Cadillac, I would rather have him think of CTS-Vs and Coupes rather than a dated DTS.
That's all fine and dandy but when people hear "full-size luxury sedan" they don't think Cadillac anymore.. They BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Jaguar and soon Hyundai, Kia (soon) and to some extent Chrysler. Cadillac needs to get back in the full-size luxury sedan game as well.
 
Hyundai (and Kia) are definitely replacing the Town Car and DeVille with the Equus and K9 (not the official name) and the Chrysler 300C is another option...
I'm interested in seeing where they actually place the Kia K9. All reports up until the spy photos from a day ago were saying the K9 would be sub-Genesis sized (midsize) and be a sport sedan, not a "Kia Equus" for lack of a better term. Interesting anyway. There's a fair chance it will bear the K9 name in SK or other markets where the Optima is the K5, the Cadenza K7, and then only making sense to call this the K9. Here, though, it'll never bear that name.

That's all fine and dandy but when people hear "full-size luxury sedan" they don't think Cadillac anymore.. They BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Jaguar and soon Hyundai, Kia (soon) and to some extent Chrysler. Cadillac needs to get back in the full-size luxury sedan game as well.
I'm almost to the point where I feel Chrysler could make a flagship move before Caddy (or Lincoln).
 
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