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It's funny, on the one hand I actually like-to be clear, it's not love-the overall exterior and interior design, while on the other hand, it also seems to be a pretty forgetable design exercise. There's nothing particularly offensive about the design, but there's nothing especially inspired about it, either. I imagine it will blend in nicely within the sea of competitors. The powertrains aren't anything particularly inspiring.

I pray that Cadillac is cooking up something bigger with the ATS.
 
Way to go Mercedes you failed the last time you offered this car. How exclusive. Mercedes offers more affordable models than exclusive models. How premium!
At least their SUVs are built ground up from luxury vehicles and not rebadge trucks or FWD entry level cute utes. Oh and their flagship... not based off a $20k family sedan.

If you think that way about Mercedes, then I'd hate to see what you think of Cadillac.
 
Not bad. I liked how the previous version came with a manual transmission so that it could serve as an entry level vehicle for young motoring fans, but the reality was that it only served as nanna transport.

Funnily enough, the previous gen MB Coupe was the first time I noticed a premium brand putting plastic blanks in their body work to try and create a new version.

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*hint: top of the tail light*

I think excluding a manual version is again going to limit appeal, and limit entry points for young motoring enthusiasts.
I think the CLC comes in undercutting the C sedans in price. I wonder if this new coupe will be priced above as they now sell As & Bs here.

I actually always quite liked the look of the current CLC I might have to check one out a bit more closely to see what you mean about the plastic filler panel.
 
If you like this car, then please take your tasteless eyes away from this post.


Cause it SUCKS, dull, dull, dull, dull. Sorry to speak out against the cabal here that likes anything but a GM car, but the CTS coupe is like 9,000,000,000,000,000 x 10 more car than this thing, really, its like they did even try to style this thing.

Here cleanse your palette....

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Just a reminder, this starts at $39,040.
 
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I would argue that in recent times GM, with Chevy, Buick and even Cadillac has been looking more to Mercedes than perhaps any other brand for design inspiration. This is a very poor move though IMHO, since out of all the premium brands, Mercedes has the least refined design language, at least on the low to mid level models.

However all Mercedes really needs is a giant 3 point star, and no logo from GM can come close to matching that logo's cachet, which is partly why it's not a good move to be inspired by Mercedes for design.
 
If slab-sided vehicles with fake fender vents and a trunk almost as tall as the roof is considered "style", then I think I'll pass.
I agree. I really liked the CTS coupe in the beginning and now I like it less and less all the time. I think it's one of the rare vehicles that look worse in black since all the dark areas of the windows blend in with the paint and make it even more slab-rear-ended.

The best looking coupes are sleek and have a more elegant look in normal guise and a sinister glare with the top model.

The front 3/4 of the CTS is awesome but that rear/hatch full diaper look of the rear 1/4 needs a fix or leave the coupe style up to the ATS.
 
I agree. I really liked the CTS coupe in the beginning and now I like it less and less all the time. I think it's one of the rare vehicles that look worse in black since all the moldings blend in with the paint and make it even more slab-rear-ended.

All the nice coupes are sleek and have a more elegant look (3 series, A5).

The front 3/4 of the CTS is awesome but that rear/hatch full diaper look of the rear 1/4 needs a fix or leave the coupe style up to the ATS.
I think the non-existing rear fender flares have a lot to do with it. I'm a big fan of the CTS (wagon and sedan), but the coupe is just disappointing.
 
If you find the CTS coupe disappointing, the the C-class coupe is lay your head down on the railroad tracks awful.

However all Mercedes really needs is a giant 3 point star, and no logo from GM can come close to matching that logo's cachet, which is partly why it's not a good move to be inspired by Mercedes for design.
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Now, dont get me wrong, I think Mercedes made some kick-arse cars through about the mid eighties, the W115 and W123, etc, but they have been riding the high of those cars for way to long, the majority of the stuff they make now is pretty average at best and the cars are mostly bought by label whores who want impress people they dont even know.
 
You dont pass on style, it passed you, and it already has.....
Can't defend the vehicle, so you come up with a vague saying? Nice.

I certainly don't hate the CTS coupe. I've actually have the racing version as my desktop wallpaper at the moment, which I think fixes my problems with the coupe (nice big fender flares, lowered to help hide how tall the trunk is).

Every European manufacture is in the sub-compact market in their homeland, Mercedes is no different. What does a bunch of commercial vehicles have to do with the C-class?

What does Cadillac have that can compete with the...
S? CL? SL? SLS? CLS? Oh, that's right... absolutely nothing!
 
There is nothing wrong with the C-Class's interior. Yes, I would consider the CTS's interior to be nicer, but the C-Class is no worse than the majority of its competition.

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Every European manufacture is in the sub-compact market in their homeland, Mercedes is no different. What does a bunch of commercial vehicles have to do with the C-class?
Sigh, I see where this is going..... the reason that I posted the commercial vehicles was as a response to the post from someone else about the prestige of the 3 pointed star and correct, that did have nothing to do with the C-coupe-good boy! heres a cookie.

And the subcompact is nasty, ugly and....ugly, when did Mercedes decide they needed one of those, its not like they've made them 50 years, again I was knocking down the illusion of prestige, you need to go back a read the whole post, and stop with the whole
"Cadillac doesnt blah,blah,blah" ok, I'm not comparing Cadillac as a whole to the exalted Mercedes as a whole, I'm just comparing the bland C-coupe to the clearly awesome CTS coupe.
 
Again, what does prestige have to do with Mercedes base models? You think the A-Class is bad? How about these?

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I don't think you have any understanding of the European market. These sorta of vehicles are made by everyone and are in demand. By your reasoning, just about every mainstream luxury manufacture has blemishes with regards to prestige. You don't base a company's prestige on their base models, you base it on their top of the line models. Need I pull up some pictures of some of the past Cadillac gems from the past 20 years? Or hell, have you forgotten about the DTS?
 
If you find the CTS coupe disappointing, the the C-class coupe is lay your head down on the railroad tracks awful.



Mercedes-Prestige



Now, dont get me wrong, I think Mercedes made some kick-arse cars through about the mid eighties, the W115 and W123, etc, but they have been riding the high of those cars for way to long, the majority of the stuff they make now is pretty average at best and the cars are mostly bought by label whores who want impress people they dont even know.
Are you suggesting that there is a GM brand with more cachet than Mercedes?
 
I don't think you have any understanding of the European market. These sorta of vehicles are made by everyone and are in demand. By your reasoning, just about every mainstream luxury manufacture has blemishes with regards to prestige. You don't base a company's prestige on their base models, you base it on their top of the line models. Need I pull up some pictures of some of the past Cadillac gems from the past 20 years? Or hell, have you forgotten about the DTS?
You keep drifting off topic.

I understand the European market plenty, I still think those all those other cars are heaps too. What I have been trying to point out is that Mercedes has been riding a prestige wave from back when they used to make good cars, thats it, and the average person today that buys a Mercedes is buying to impress others because uneducated people will think he or she has money and what is wrong with the DTS? Do you own one? Have you ever had the pleasure of driving one? It is a very fine car, is it the best car in the world? No, but is it a great car for its purpose, absolutely, but please explain to me, as a probably 20 something year old that drives a 17 year old Miata, what is wrong with the DTS?

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Are you suggesting that there is a GM brand with more cachet than Mercedes?
Read the statement again, slower if you have to to understand, it is only about Mercedes, no mention of GM or Cadillac is made, I am JUST making a statement about Mercedes.
 
You keep drifting off topic.

What I have been trying to point out is that Mercedes has been riding a prestige wave from back when they used to make good cars...
You've yet to explain how Mercedes is no longer making "good cars".

You keep drifting off topic.

...thats it, and the average person today that buys a Mercedes is buying to impress others because uneducated people will think he or she has money...
And that is different from any other entry model luxury vehicle how?

You keep drifting off topic.

...what is wrong with the DTS? Do you own one? Have you ever had the pleasure of driving one? It is a very fine car, is it the best car in the world?
Well lets see...
-It's a $46k sedan that is running on a platform dating back to 1986.
-It has a completely anemic V8 that gets worse gas millage, has less horse power and torque than just about every luxury (and non-luxury) V6 that is available in vehicles that are $15k less.
-The design has barely changed since the DeVille was revised in 2000!
-It's just about the only FWD full-sized luxury sedan on the market.

Yes, it's a big comfy reliable vehicle, but is that your definition of prestige? Is it really any more luxurious than a loaded-up LaCrosse, Avalon, or Taurus?
 
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