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Buick essentially rebodies the Cadillac DTS

By Scott Oldham Email
Date posted: 04-03-2006


Over the years, we've driven cars that disappoint, cars that irk, cars that thrill. We've even sampled a few that made us laugh. But the 2006 Buick Lucerne CXL V8 is the only car we've ever driven that has caused us physical pain.

Our Platinum Metallic test vehicle was packed with options, including heated and cooled front seats that cost an extra $1,075. The cooling part of the package was fine, but using the seat heaters, turned the Buick's front seats into torture devices. Now we know what it's like to sit on an open flame.

Logbook entries on the subject included: "Call the burn unit, I just used the seat heaters."

After a few days we all learned to avoid the seat heater button on the door panel, but the Lucerne's botched bun warmers aren't the only thing about Buick's newest sedan that left us cold.


Poor performance

To create the Lucerne CXL V8, which is the brand's first full-size, front-wheel-drive, V8-powered luxury sedan, Buick essentially rebodied the Cadillac DTS and shaved a few grand off the sticker price.

Sound idea. Buick needed to replace its long-in-tooth Park Avenue, and the new model would have a V8 engine, a novelty for its class. Problem is, the DTS isn't exactly a spring chicken. The bulk of its hardware has been around since the late 1990s and it's all showing its age.

Even the 4.6-liter Northstar V8 is graying around its temples. In the Lucerne, it's rated at 275 horsepower at 5,600 rpm and 290 pound-feet of torque at 4,400 rpm. Impressive numbers five or six years ago, but the much smaller V6 engines in the 2006 Hyundai Azera and 2006 Toyota Avalon nearly match that output. In fact, the 3.5-liter V6 in the Toyota is rated at 280 hp.

At 3,869 pounds the Lucerne is also heavy for its class, and to make matters worse, Buick backs the V8 with a four-speed automatic transmission, which is about as cutting edge as a cassette deck. It shifts smoothly enough for a luxury car, but its gear ratios are too tall to give the Lucerne an alert, ready-when-you-are feel.

As expected, the Buick's acceleration times aren't really any better than the times posted by its V6-powered competition. The Lucerne isn't slow, but it isn't the banker's hot rod its V8 would lead you to believe. At the test track 0-60 mph took 7.7 seconds and the quarter-mile was completed in 15.5 seconds at 92 mph.

On the same day at the same strip we tested an Azera and it ran from zero to 60 mph in 7.2 seconds and matched the Lucerne's quarter-mile performance. The last Avalon we tested was even quicker. Buy a Lucerne with the standard V6 and you should expect to be shut down by the ice cream truck.

Of course the V6 Hyundai and Toyota are without the Lucerne's throaty V8 soundtrack, which is certainly worth something, but they're much more fuel-efficient than the Buick. We averaged less than 14 mpg during our week in the Lucerne, 21 mpg in the Avalon and 17.7 mpg in the Azera.


Where's the power steering?

Order the top-of-food-chain Lucerne CXS and you get the V8 standard as well as Cadillac's Magnetic Ride Control suspension, and larger 18-inch wheels and Bridgestone tires. This is the setup we praised in our first drive of the Lucerne.

This midlevel CXL model, which goes without the magnetic suspension and 18-inch rubber, isn't nearly as well sorted. For starters, its 17-inch Continental tires struggle under the mass of the oversized sedan. They howl in protest every time you turn the wheel and provide little grip. The suspension, which features load-leveling air shocks in the rear, is also tuned too softly and relies too heavily on the electronic stability control to get the car around corners. StabiliTrak is a good system, but can only do so much. Our best run through our slalom test was just 59 mph, which is 3 mph slower than the Azera tested on the same day.

With that big engine sitting between its front tires, it shouldn't be a surprise that understeer is the Lucerne's preferred cornering attitude. In tight bends the outside edge of its front tires takes quite a beating, and there's torque steer if you wood it on the way out.

Like its tires, the Buick's magnetic steering system doesn't like the turns much either. Its ratio is quick enough, but there's too much assist and off-center response is oddly abrupt. Its power assist also stopped working for about an hour after we drove the car hard through a series of corners. Cooked its fluid is our guess. It had been awhile since we drove a car with manual steering, and we hope it's a long time before we experience it again.

On open road, the Lucerne is happier. In long, fast sweepers, the Buick's soft suspension leans over slowly and takes a nice set. And the ride, while a little floaty for our taste, is agreeable if you like that kind of thing.

Its light steering helps hide the Lucerne's size around town, but the car's huge 42.2-foot turning radius (44 feet with the 18-inch wheels) makes parking and U-turns a problem. Grave Digger, the 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe and the USS Ronald Reagan all have tighter turning circles.

Its brakes are also inexcusably deficient. Pedal feel isn't bad, but its best stop from 60 mph took up almost 138 feet, which is worse than most of the SUVs we've tested lately.


Quiet interior

Inside, the Lucerne is a tranquil place. Interior sound levels at full throttle and at 70 mph are lower than we recorded in the 2007 Lexus ES 350 we tested recently.

The rest of the Lucerne's interior, however, doesn't hold up against its competition. With the exception of its chrome metal door handles, which are appropriately upscale, the Lucerne's interior doesn't have the premium feel we expected. Seat comfort is average, the cupholders are laughably shallow, and forward vision is blocked by A-pillars the size of railroad ties. Our test car also had several fit and finish issues, including a loose headliner.

Yes, there's an abundance of wood and leather, but the materials are average for a car with a $35,000 sticker price. As is the Lucerne's equipment list. Despite its sticker, our Lucerne did not have a sunroof, a telescopic steering wheel or one-touch up windows. Those in the Snowbelt, however, will appreciate its optional heated windshield washer fluid and its remote vehicle starter system. Six airbags and OnStar are standard.

Link: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=109862#2
 
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If what they're saying is true, then GM really did half-ass the Lucerne. But then again, what'd you expect? One thing that's been bugging me lately is how great some of GM's new vehicles are (like the GMT-900s, the Kappas, the 2008 CTS), but how others are just sucky rehashes of things that weren't all that great 5 years and are even worse now.
 
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Like its tires, the Buick's magnetic steering system doesn't like the turns much either. Its ratio is quick enough, but there's too much assist and off-center response is oddly abrupt. Its power assist also stopped working for about an hour after we drove the car hard through a series of corners. Cooked its fluid is our guess. It had been awhile since we drove a car with manual steering, and we hope it's a long time before we experience it again.
This is hilarious...
 
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Poor, poor Buick. Truly depressing when Buick's "flagship" car compares badly with a Hyundai. Normally if I read people talk about Buick going the way of Oldsmobile I scoff, but things now make me wonder if it perhaps wouldn't be better that way. Like pulling the plug on a vegetable...its sad to see them go, but they weren't really there anymore anyway.

I hope they pull it together and do something with Buick, I really do, but the current offerings aren't going to cut it. I'm seeing a lot of LaCrosses around, and I'm sure its a fine car, but I don't think it has anything to attract new buyers to the brand, or the looks to make anyone notice it. And the Lucerne seems like it's almost handicapped to not take sales away from Cadillac. My hope is that the Buick "Statesman" (or whatever they call it) will turn this all around.

Sad to see Buick like this, after making some of the best and most beautiful American cars ever (in my opinion). Cars like the Skylarks, Rivieras, Grand Nationals--even the Regals of the '80s and '90s were usually the best looking of their litters, not plain-jane like the Chevys, or over-styled plasticy like the Pontiacs, but with understated good looks that grow on you.

And here's something that's been bothering me...what happened to the tail lights on all the new Buicks? I can spot a Buick from the back a block away thanks to their distinctive horizontal bar brake lights, but the new cars look almost like Kias from the back.
 
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A pig in makeup and new shoes is still a pig!!
GM just keep delivery half baked ideas that they really feel will fool consumers!
Buicks has been in business for darn near a century and has gotten beaten by a Korean upstart!!
Buick still hasn't learned that you have to exceed the benchmark (Avalon) in order to be successful in today's dog eat dog world!!
 
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Inside, the Lucerne is a tranquil place. Interior sound levels at full throttle and at 70 mph are lower than we recorded in the 2007 Lexus ES 350 we tested recently.
At least it is more quiet than the new ES350!
 
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Does anybody under age 55 even consider a Buick when looking for a new car?

Since Buick ignores the younger buyers, and avoids putting in the hard work to make its vehicles truly aspirational, I'm guessing that Buick will be completely irrelevant in another ten years or so and die a natural death.
 
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I dont know what do believe anymore first they say its a good car , now they say its ****************, i guess its all on opinion but if toyotas 3.5 v6 makes more power then buicks v8 that is sad and further more bcause the standard engine in it is still the aging 200 only horse 3.8 v6, they stopped using it in the new impalas , why not with the lucurnes, thats one area they def overlooked, so I do agree with some of this, maybe this would have been a great car for buick 5 years ago. It just seems that Buick is always a step behind, by the time buick has six spd trannys lexus will have 8. i love buick but someones got to light the fire under gm's ass
 
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The cloth in the base Lucerne is some of the cheapest I have seen.

I have never been a fan of the Northstar it just doesn't seem to put out it rated power.
And it needs lots of gear.
The Caddy's and Aurora had 3.71 gears and the V6 Aurora with 3.29 gears was only .5 second slower to 60mph.
I frankly don't see how GM can make a 275 hp car do 0-60 in 7.7 seconds.
It must have 2.73 or 2.93 gears. 'Cause that is pitiful.
 
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Okay, Buick needs product, and fast.

THIS IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO....

Buick's ONLY two cars it has in its lineup are two cars built on extremely outdated platforms. And we sit here day-in and day-out hoping that Buick will turn around, but ignore this fact.

These outdated platforms definately show their age when compared to today's standards, and yes even to the Koreans. So it is not such a suprise that this review said that about the Lucerne. I think Buick is especially in a great deal of trouble, and some sort of modern looking CAR is in great need over there to really save the division, because the Lucerne falls short. If buick put the Lucernes option package on a platform that could perform, I think it would serve it's purpose well. But let's face it, nobody will buy this car over an Acura, Infiniti, or Lexus....EVER. I'd say people are comparing the Lucerne to a Mercury Montego, or Possibly Chrysler 300, but even a Chrysler has it beat.
 
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b4z said:
The cloth in the base Lucerne is some of the cheapest I have seen.

I have never been a fan of the Northstar it just doesn't seem to put out it rated power.
And it needs lots of gear.
The Caddy's and Aurora had 3.71 gears and the V6 Aurora with 3.29 gears was only .5 second slower to 60mph.
I frankly don't see how GM can make a 275 hp car do 0-60 in 7.7 seconds.
It must have 2.73 or 2.93 gears. 'Cause that is pitiful.
Firstly the Lucerne has 3.11:1 gears with it's 4 speed automatic transmission. Second, it gets to 60 in 6.9 seconds not 7.7. This editor is notorious for bashing GM cars whenever possible so it's going to make them feel like men to come up with stupid excuses to make the old Buick look bad! I have driven several CXL and CXS models with the heated leather and yes the seat does get hot but not nearly enough to burn you for god sakes! What a bunch of cry babies. Most other reports I have read about this car place it out ahead of the dull boring Avalon with it's compact sized trunk and funky interior and melted chocolate bar look in the front and rear. This report must also be old since the Avalon now puts out 268 hp not 280! Regarding the Aurora, it had a smaller 4.0 liter V8 with less power and torque than the Lucernes 4.6 liter V8. The cloth seat material is better than the base Azera and on par with the Avalon. lets give this car some credit now.
 
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Most cars have seat heaters that get really hot, if u put it to the max level, this is intended to heat the seat up when its cold, u then turn it down, inside line has complained about this in other cars b4, i guess they are just hopelessly retarded. Also, most reviews and comapros ive read said that the buick outhandled the Avalon, but whoever wrote this decided to leave out any comarison to the competion w/ cars in its class during the handling part of his review, which seems stupid b/c none of these cars were tuned to handle! I still think i like the avalon better, but this guy had an axe to grind, which is apparent when u compare his review to others.
 
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86fleet said:
If what they're saying is true, then GM really did half-ass the Lucerne. But then again, what'd you expect? One thing that's been bugging me lately is how great some of GM's new vehicles are (like the GMT-900s, the Kappas, the 2008 CTS), but how others are just sucky rehashes of things that weren't all that great 5 years and are even worse now.
You answered your own question. The Solstice was the first car of the new generation of GM product. Product that isn't half-assed like say...the Lucerne. Proof that the days of half-baked products are over lies in the 2008 CTS, GT-900's, and Lambda crossovers. Lutz has finally gotten to utilize all of GM's resources.
 
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But wasnt the Lucurne supposed to be to turning point flagship for Buick? Everyone made a big commotion about its release and new look... but its as if GM just threw out a product without really working on it.

It sucks how the heated seats keep burning them like that.. anyone else ever have the same problem?
 
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Xeper said:
But wasnt the Lucurne supposed to be to turning point flagship for Buick? Everyone made a big commotion about its release and new look... but its as if GM just threw out a product without really working on it.

It sucks how the heated seats keep burning them like that.. anyone else ever have the same problem?

The Enclave will be more of a turning point for Buick than the Lucurne. I mean, it has a 190 HP base engine and a 4-speed auto...:(
 
#21 ·
I bought a Lucerne in December and I'm 35. I'm tall and wanted some room and some power. Trust me, this thing is way better than a Hyundai. How come they tested a CXL and not a CXS, the top of the line? This review seems a little harsh, but consider the source. Edmunds is wrong about a lot of stuff. Also, notice Edmunds pulled their user reviews. Lucerne had one of the highest ratings of people who actually bought the car.
 
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Xeper said:
But wasnt the Lucurne supposed to be to turning point flagship for Buick? Everyone made a big commotion about its release and new look... but its as if GM just threw out a product without really working on it.
Yes, it was supposed to represent the "new Buick," and it came out under Lutz's watch, which concerns me. I would have preferred a delay in the Park Avenue/LeSabre replacement if the Lucerne was going to be the answer. It's a good enough car, not a class-leader. Like others have mentioned, I cannot believe a friggen Hyundai bests a Buick near-luxury vehicle. Good lord!

The above - along with the DTS - proves that we cannot be totally comforted by the fact that Lutz allegedly controls product development at GM. If you want to give him credit for the GMT-900's and Solstice, then you have to criticize him for the DTS and Lucerne, too. They all came out under his term as vice chairman of global product development.

Consistency, please.
 
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b4z said:
The cloth in the base Lucerne is some of the cheapest I have seen.

I have never been a fan of the Northstar it just doesn't seem to put out it rated power.
And it needs lots of gear.
The Caddy's and Aurora had 3.71 gears and the V6 Aurora with 3.29 gears was only .5 second slower to 60mph.
I frankly don't see how GM can make a 275 hp car do 0-60 in 7.7 seconds.
It must have 2.73 or 2.93 gears. 'Cause that is pitiful.
WTF is cloth doing in a flagship buick? HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THERE IS NO CLOTH IN THE Lexus LS, or any other lux make in their flagship vehicle. Thats just sad. I really like its interior though:)
 
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63cat said:
I bought a Lucerne in December and I'm 35. I'm tall and wanted some room and some power. Trust me, this thing is way better than a Hyundai. How come they tested a CXL and not a CXS, the top of the line? This review seems a little harsh, but consider the source. Edmunds is wrong about a lot of stuff. Also, notice Edmunds pulled their user reviews. Lucerne had one of the highest ratings of people who actually bought the car.
They explicitly said that they had already tested a CXS. Now they're testing a lower, and likely more popular, trim level.
 
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vdoh182 said:
Most cars have seat heaters that get really hot, if u put it to the max level, this is intended to heat the seat up when its cold, u then turn it down, inside line has complained about this in other cars b4, i guess they are just hopelessly retarded. Also, most reviews and comapros ive read said that the buick outhandled the Avalon, but whoever wrote this decided to leave out any comarison to the competion w/ cars in its class during the handling part of his review, which seems stupid b/c none of these cars were tuned to handle! I still think i like the avalon better, but this guy had an axe to grind, which is apparent when u compare his review to others.
I agree. Unless you're suffering from hypothermia, or the car heater has quit, the only purpose of the seat heaters is to heat the seat; quickly. Not your body, not the entire car. So when the seats are heated, turn it off. As for the slow acceleration and lack of roaring power, not everyone wants a car with a hair-trigger throttle that breaks the tires loose if you give it a little too much gas. I'd think most people who consider this car, or a car like this, are looking for a smooth, quiet ride, decent fuel economy, good safety features, easy accessibility, and good reliability. If GM can market this thing well and Steve Miller can keep his mouth shut for 30 consecutive days, the market will tell the tale about this car.
 
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ByTheLake said:
Does anybody under age 55 even consider a Buick when looking for a new car?

Since Buick ignores the younger buyers, and avoids putting in the hard work to make its vehicles truly aspirational, I'm guessing that Buick will be completely irrelevant in another ten years or so and die a natural death.
Don't count them out just yet. One of my co-workers talked a exciting game when looking for a car recently, talking about Audis, Jaguars, etc., then bought a used LeSabre, which he promptly put 22s on and tinted the glass. Mind you, this man was nowhere near 55. I wonder if he'll think of Buick when looking for a new car...