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Holden Cuts Opel's For Daewoo's

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Daewoo's To Replace Euro Opel Holden's

The Daily Telegraph 20/05/05
www.carsguide.com.au

The European-sourced Barina will be replaced by a South Korean hatch this year.

Holden has locked in a plan to import a GM Daewoo model previously sold here as the Kalos, which will feature Australian-tuned suspension and Holden styling touches.
The car, sold as a Chevrolet Aveo in the United States, will get the Barina badge here.

(As I've been predicting), Holden will also import another Daewoo model this year, to replace the current Astra Classic.

Production of the Astra Classic is winding up in Poland in July and Holden needs another car to sell for less than $19,000.

The more expensive AH Astra hatch will continue to be sold in Australia and will be joined by wagon and SRi hatch versions later this year.

The current Barina comes from Opel. It is built in Spain and costs more to import than a Daewoo from South Korea would.

Holden, which is yet to confirm the plan, will be able to add more equipment to the Daewoo-sourced hatch and still maintain a $13,990 bottom line against South Korean models such as the Kia Rio and Hyundai Getz, and the Japanese Toyota Echo.

A Holden source says the fact the new Barina will come from South Korea will not hurt sales.

"Point of origin just doesn't matter if the car is what the customer wants," the source says. "You ask most people where their car comes from, especially people buying cars at this price point, and I bet they couldn't tell you."

The South Korean Barina will not be the first from outside Europe. Holden sold Suzuki-sourced Barinas until switching to the Spanish Opel in 1994.

Holden also plans to bring a mid-sized Daewoo all-wheel drive called the S3X here next year and is looking at the smaller T2X softroader from the South Korean carmaker.

Sales and marketing director Ross McKenzie will not confirm the import plan, but says there are a lot of Daewoo models to choose from.

"We are looking at the prospect of importing a range of product from Korea. We haven't announced any specifics, but we believe it is going to give us some real leverage in the four-cylinder market," says McKenzie.

"I was up there (in Seoul) a couple of weeks ago, and the product range . . . is just fantastic.

"It is like a smorgasbord and we have to decide what is suited for Australia."



Holden To Offer Rebadged Daewoo Kalos And Lacetti From September As Euro Barina Axed

John Mellor 16/06/05
www.goauto.com.au

Holden has confirmed it will replace the XC Barina and the TS Astra Classic with cars from GM Daewoo in South Korea from around September this year.

The Barina will be replaced with a Holden-badged version of the Daewoo Kalos previously sold in Australia – not the updated Aveo shown at the Shanghai auto show in April – and the Astra Classic will be replaced by the Viva, which is a ‘Holdenised’ version of the Daewoo Lacetti.

The TK Barina will be available in three-door and five-door hatchback variants while the JF Viva will come in four-door sedan, five-door hatch and five-door wagon iterations.

The Viva, which is powered by the Port Melbourne-built Family II engine, will sit in the market between the Barina and the European-sourced AH series Astra, which continues.

Like the Astra it replaces, the Viva has a 1.8-litre four-cylinder engine that produces 90kW of power and 165Nm of torque.

Meantime, looking at Kalos data, the Daewoo-sourced Barina will have a bigger engine than the current Spanish-built Barina.

This will get Holden’s entry-level car up into the 1.5-litre small-car territory. The 1498cc E-Tec engine generates 62kW and 128Nm. Claimed top speed is 170km/h with 0-100km/h claimed at 13.3 seconds.

This compares with the 1364cc Barina, which generates 66kW of power and 125Nm of torque.

Both the Holden-styled Viva and the Barina have been given a work-over by Holden engineers who have attempted to tweak the Korean-ness out of the Daewoo base on which they are built.

Holden has also indicated that Daewoo has made modifications to the engines to improve drivability.

Holden’s executive director of engineering, Tony Hyde, told GoAuto last month that Australians would be able to tell the difference in the way the Holden versions behave on the road.

Holden chairman and managing director Denny Mooney said: "Barina and Viva deliver significant bang for buck, extremely class-competitive levels of quality as well as the driving feel people have come to expect from Holden.

"We are taking advantage of General Motors’ strong design, development and manufacturing facilities through GMDAT (GM Daewoo Auto & Technology) in South Korea to tailor cars to the Australian market.

"Holden’s engineers have made significant contributions to the way cars drive and feel and we know Australians will be impressed with their overall performance," he said.

The move to importing Holdens from Korea follows the closure of the GM Daewoo franchise in Australia last December by Holden, which could not make money out of selling Daewoos through a separate dealer network.

Holden admitted price competition in small cars was too great to justify a separate network trying to brand a range of cars.

By selling the cars as Holdens through the Holden dealer network, the company is pinning its hopes on savings from marketing and administration costs to be able to keep prices sharp for customers, while also making money on its Korean imports.

Prices have yet to be announced, however the Daewoo Lacetti went on sale in Australia at $19,490. The Astra Classic starts at $18,990. The Daewoo Kalos was priced from $14,990 while the Barina sells from $14,490.

The move from Spain to Korea marks the third region from which the Barina has been sourced. The first Barinas sold in Australia were made by Suzuki in Japan.

The announcement involves a number of landmarks.

It marks the revival of the Holden Viva name from the 1960s. Holden launched a re-badged version of the HA Vauxhall Viva as a small-car entrant in 1964. It was replaced by the first Torana, the HB, in 1967.

It also marks the first time in 16 years that the Holden Family II engine will be fitted to a Holden car since the departure of the JE Camira and the LD Astra (a Nissan Pulsar with a Holden engine) in mid-1989.

The Family II engine was made for the first Camira in the late 1970s and exported – mainly to Europe initially and then to Asia.

But in one of the quirks of an increasingly global motor industry, even though Holden made the Family II engine in Melbourne, from 1989 onwards it was never fitted to any of its cars and only ever appeared in this market in imported Daewoos.

The move to sell Daewoos under the Holden brand is part of a global strategy by GM to expunge the Daewoo name in most world markets except Korea.

GM Daewoo exports cars to more than 150 countries using some of the GM group’s leading brands including: Chevrolet in parts of Asia Pacific, Europe, North America and Latin America; Buick in China; and Pontiac and Suzuki in North America.



Daewoo Enters As The Slow-Selling Vectra Exits

Alastair Sloane 18/06/05
www.nzherald.co.nz

Holden is expected to drop the European-built Vectra from its line-up in New Zealand and Australia in anticipation of introducing a new range of Daewoo vehicles.

Holden New Zealand publicity affairs executive Brodie McClellan wouldn’t be drawn on the planned exit of the mid-range model, but it is understood that after Holden runs out of the Vectra models it now has it will not pick up the heavily restyled facelift, photos of which were published in Europe this week.

It will, however, continue to bring in Vectra’s sibling, the small-medium Astra hatchback.

The range of a possible three or four Daewoo vehicles for New Zealand is expected to include a model badged Viva, after the Vauxhall of many years ago.

Holden parent General Motors bought ailing Korean carmaker Daewoo in 2003 and rebadged export models for the Northern Hemisphere as Chevrolets. The same models will wear the Holden moniker in this part of the world.

Vectra has been a slow seller on both sides of the ditch since it appeared in the 1990s.

Holden pushed up the price of the four-cylinder and six-cylinder models in 2003 in a bid to align the nameplate with European competitors.

In effect, this was asking buyers to imagine the Vectra wearing a Mercedes-Benz, BMW or Audi badge rather than a Holden lion.

But in doing so it positioned it against its best-selling Commodore range.

Holden is expected to confirm the line-up of Daewoo-sourced models within the next couple of weeks.
 
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Great!!! More Holden's for us. :bounce:

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If they can make a profit on it, then good for them. I'm sure manufacturing and shipping of an EU sourced car to the Aussie market must have created very, very slim profit margins for them. Not to mention the possible loss due to the exchange rate. As long as the cars are good, then I don't see this as a bad move.
 
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nadepalma said:
If they can make a profit on it, then good for them. I'm sure manufacturing and shipping of an EU sourced car to the Aussie market must have created very, very slim profit margins for them. Not to mention the possible loss due to the exchange rate. As long as the cars are good, then I don't see this as a bad move.
True, you know, UAW learns its tricks from Euro commies
 
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I wonder why Holden chooses to sell these cars as Holdens rather than introducing the Chevrolet badge in Australia like it is happening around the world?

Anyway it is still one step closer to my goal. A GM without boarders where most of its brands are sold in all markets around the world. Opels in California to start and Pontiacs, Chevys, Buicks and Cadillacs in Australia just like in Canada.
 
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ethayes said:
I wonder why Holden chooses to sell these cars as Holdens rather than introducing the Chevrolet badge in Australia like it is happening around the world?

Anyway it is still one step closer to my goal. A GM without boarders where most of its brands are sold in all markets around the world. Opels in California to start and Pontiacs, Chevys, Buicks and Cadillacs in Australia just like in Canada.
We don't need the Chevrolet badge "introduced" in Australia.

Save for the Corvette, what cars/trucks from the Chevrolet factory would you recommend we should get excited about?

(And don't mention the FWDs and the Suburban)

Mike
 
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ethayes said:
I wonder why Holden chooses to sell these cars as Holdens rather than introducing the Chevrolet badge in Australia like it is happening around the world?

Anyway it is still one step closer to my goal. A GM without boarders where most of its brands are sold in all markets around the world. Opels in California to start and Pontiacs, Chevys, Buicks and Cadillacs in Australia just like in Canada.
Why the hell would Californians (or GM North America) need Holdens? It just doesn't make sense to introduce ANOTHER brand here when GM is already aiming to pare back their current brands.

Most Pontiacs and Buicks are too big for other world markets, and they're too crappy for the Australian market. Not to mention the enormous costs associated with introducing a brand new name to a market. It makes no sense.
 
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ethayes said:
I wonder why Holden chooses to sell these cars as Holdens rather than introducing the Chevrolet badge in Australia like it is happening around the world?

Anyway it is still one step closer to my goal. A GM without boarders where most of its brands are sold in all markets around the world. Opels in California to start and Pontiacs, Chevys, Buicks and Cadillacs in Australia just like in Canada.
This has to be the stupidest, least thought out post I have ever read.


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brands need not be spread worldwide... but products do. i have no need for an opel dealership in my town if i can go to the saturn place a pick up an ION/astra or AURA/vectra... likewise with Holden and Pontiac. If Holden sees a GM NA car they want/need, they can put Holden badges and ship it on over, and vice versa. no need to create new brands, dealers, ads etc... for the few products that really should and can be shared between markets. if the platforms, engines, etc.. are globally produced, then they can simply build the best version for that area and brand it locally, using GM's amazing rebadge abilities for good instead of evil.
 
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Cadillac and Hummer are the only GM brands that will be introduced into established GM markets in the future. These two brands have a niche and have a place as their own whole brands around the globe.

Denny Mooney has already stated that he would like to bring the Cadillac as a whole brand to Australia in the near future as a division of GM Holden Ltd, like GM Daewoo Australia was.


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ethayes said:
Anyway it is still one step closer to my goal. A GM without boarders where most of its brands are sold in all markets around the world. Opels in California to start and Pontiacs, Chevys, Buicks and Cadillacs in Australia just like in Canada.
Maybe because unlike Canada, Australia had a homegrown brand making cars for the home market. Not unlike Vauxhall in UK and Adam Opel in Germany. When you have an established brand name in a country, why change it? That's why Commodores/Statesmans/Monaros are sold as Holdens, Pontiacs, Chevs, Buicks, Vauxhalls and Daewoos, depending on which is the established GM brand in that market. In some markets they could also be marketed as Opels (some SE Asian countries for instance).
 
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Stormin said:
Maybe because unlike Canada, Australia had a homegrown brand making cars for the home market. Not unlike Vauxhall in UK and Adam Opel in Germany. When you have an established brand name in a country, why change it? That's why Commodores/Statesmans/Monaros are sold as Holdens, Pontiacs, Chevs, Buicks, Vauxhalls and Daewoos, depending on which is the established GM brand in that market. In some markets they could also be marketed as Opels (some SE Asian countries for instance).
Vauxhall is just a name(sad but true)! They're just Opels! But it will keep the Brits happy!
 
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AdmiralViscen said:
Why the hell would Californians (or GM North America) need Holdens? It just doesn't make sense to introduce ANOTHER brand here when GM is already aiming to pare back their current brands.

Most Pontiacs and Buicks are too big for other world markets, and they're too crappy for the Australian market. Not to mention the enormous costs associated with introducing a brand new name to a market. It makes no sense.
Most Pontiacs and Buicks are not too big for me! It's just a question how to park well! OK my commie neigbours will get more jealous!
 
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Don't need Chev in OZ. In fact we replaced Chev with Holden as our prime GM vehicle. Holden has a vast groundswell of affection in the Australian public.
There isn't enough room for the whole GM portfolio and basically any Chev could be sold here as a Holden if need be. Saabs are now distributed by Holden, Daewoo are soon to be imported as Holdens, Opels are imported as Holdens 7 there is talk of Cadillacs being distributed by Holden & the GMC name being registered to Holden.
Probably enough, hey?

Having said that I'd love a Corvette!

Cheers
 
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Ferrari build in right hand drive form as does tiny Lamborghini, Maserati and Lotus. But like every Corvette before (and almost all vehicles in the GMNA portfolio) I doubt GM even bother to engineer let alone build the current C6 in R/H/D, which virtually eliminates it from practical consideration for our market
 
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nota said:
Ferrari build in right hand drive form as does tiny Lamborghini, Maserati and Lotus. But like every Corvette before (and almost all vehicles in the GMNA portfolio) I doubt GM even bother to engineer let alone build the current C6 in R/H/D, which virtually eliminates it from practical consideration for our market
Bloody short sighted isnt it??

I would love a RHD Corvette. But its the whole "The rest of the world doesn't matter syndrome" the yanks have..
 
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AnthonyHSV said:
Bloody short sighted isnt it??

I would love a RHD Corvette. But its the whole "The rest of the world doesn't matter syndrome" the yanks have..
Until then we will have to struggle on...
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