[Envoy4Life]

Can't say I've ever read a minivan review. However, I've seen many a soccer mom commanding a minivan fly by me on the highway moving at a clip well above the speed limit. So, maybe there are buyers that do care about that sort of thing. Can you point me to a minivan review that focuses half the review on performance? Again, I've never even read a minivan review.

I was exaggerating a bit, but check these out:

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chrysler/town-&-country/2015/the-big-test-2014-2015-minivans/

http://www.caranddriver.com/compari...odyssey-elite-vs-2015-kia-sedona-sxl-2015-toyota-sienna-limited-comparison-test

And look at how Car & Driver weighs the points. 115 points for the actual vehicle itself, from styling to price, to build quality, to space, to comfort, and a bunch of other stuff. And for performance, powertrain is worth 55 points, and chassis is worth 60, adding up to the same 115. Shouldn't the actual car be worth a lot more, because it's a minivan and not a Sport Sedan?

That's why I think rags like MT and CD shouldn't be in the business of reviewing minivans lol.

I'm a current Acadia owner. I like the new Acadia and will evaluate it when I replace my current Acadia. I really like what I see. Don't get me wrong, I love the utility of the current Acadia and have made the most of all that interior volume many a time. But, the majority of the time, it's not needed. So, the new Acadia is on my short list. I think that being lighter, more nimble, and more efficient make it a better all around vehicle compered to the first gen Acadia, even though it gives up some utility. I looked at the Explorer before, and I'll look at it again, but I really like what I see with the new Acadia.

Interesting. If you don't mind me asking, do you have any children, and how often do you use the space and or seats in the back?

I think that current Acadia owners with big families or businesses that use the space will look elsewhere, possibly to the new Chevy Traverse.

As far as the Yukon, I don't think that most current Acadia owners will step up to the Yukon. It's a completely different vehicle despite the current Acadia being similar in length. The Yukon STARTS at over $48,000. That's almost $20k more than the Acadia starts at and is more than the Acadia Denali starts at. So, moving up to a Yukon may happen now and again, but in general, I just don't see that happening. I agree that it would be nice to have an Acadia XL in the showroom alongside the Acadia, but I really think this new Acadia hits the sweetspot. The only real issue I have is that the All Terrain can not be equipped with the 3rd row of seating.

Yes, the Yukon is expensive. But I think GMC would love to sell the G1 Acadia owners Yukons as a step up for their next car. Problem is, it's expensive. And a totally different beast.

I think GM needs to get the next Traverse and Enclave as close to perfect as possible. With the Acadia getting smaller, I think a lot of Acadia/GMC buyers are going to look at those two since they're staying roughly the same size.

Yea I think last gen Acadia as well. I don't have enough experience with this one to say one way or the other. the last gen Acadia Denali was a nice vehicle but it wasn't substantially different than a loaded out SLT2.

I really don't like the size of the new Acadia. I know many others who were turned off of it at well. I also think GMC needs to rethink calling anything XL. I know some people loves the Envoy xl but to me (and others I have heard) it had really awkward proportions. It's funny how GM stuck so close to the same formula on Camaro but departed from a hugely successful vehicle in the Acadia.

I agree. Denali is too close to a loaded SLT-2. And the engines are the same thing as the regular spec GMC.

Interesting then that Motor Trend lists the 2017 Acadia with a V6 & AWD at 4,305 lbs. Would a 2017 2.5L FWD Acadia come in around 4,100 lbs? Or did GM provide the data and 4,305 lbs is the base curb weight for the 4-cyl FWD model?

GMC's media site listed starting curb weight at 3956 lbs.

Yep, GMC's website lists it at 3,956 lbs for both the I4 and V6 versions. Not sure how accurate the V6 weight is as it's pretty suspect that a V6 doesn't weigh more than an I4, but under 4,000 lbs for a pretty large CUV is VERY impressive IMHO. They did a great job with that.

 

[impala02]

I was exaggerating a bit, but check these out:

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chrysler/town-&-country/2015/the-big-test-2014-2015-minivans/

http://www.caranddriver.com/compari...odyssey-elite-vs-2015-kia-sedona-sxl-2015-toyota-sienna-limited-comparison-test

And look at how Car & Driver weighs the points. 115 points for the actual vehicle itself, from styling to price, to build quality, to space, to comfort, and a bunch of other stuff. And for performance, powertrain is worth 55 points, and chassis is worth 60, adding up to the same 115. Shouldn't the actual car be worth a lot more, because it's a minivan and not a Sport Sedan?

That's why I think rags like MT and CD shouldn't be in the business of reviewing minivans lol.

Don't know if I want to waste my time reading a minivan review...

Interesting. If you don't mind me asking, do you have any children, and how often do you use the space and or seats in the back?

I think that current Acadia owners with big families or businesses that use the space will look elsewhere, possibly to the new Chevy Traverse.

I have 2 children. Don't get me wrong, the Acadia excels as a utility vehicle for families. There is a ton of space behind the 2nd row of seats, and even with the 3rd row of seats up, there is still space behind the 3rd row to put stuff. The same can't be said for the Explorer or many other 3 row vehicles. We use the 3rd row when family comes to visit or when transporting friends of our kids around. Plywood, 2x4s, 700 pounds of wood pellets, hay bales, even a crab apple tree, it's all been back there. It's also great for the ski trips and family vacations. Given all of that, I am still considering a smaller, vehicle. That doesn't mean that I won't end up in a Traverse, but I am definitely willing to give up some of that utility for a smaller, lighter, more agile vehicle. The thing is, I can make up for some of that lost space with a roof box, hitch cargo carrier (which I already have), and/or a small trailer, as needed. Regardless, it will be fun evaluating the Acadia's replacement.

Yes, the Yukon is expensive. But I think GMC would love to sell the G1 Acadia owners Yukons as a step up for their next car. Problem is, it's expensive. And a totally different beast.

I think GM needs to get the next Traverse and Enclave as close to perfect as possible. With the Acadia getting smaller, I think a lot of Acadia/GMC buyers are going to look at those two since they're staying roughly the same size.

I love the Yukon/Tahoe. But not at those prices. Perhaps a used Yukon... I'd rather use that money for a performance oriented vehicle to replace the BMW.

 

[Harry_Wild]

I checking out the new Acadia and there is so many versions of it that hard to follow. All but the Denali have the plastic gray/back bottom side skirt from what I can tell! In the Denali, you have to have the third row even if you only want two. The All terrain model, you can only get two rows. There are 17", 18", 19" and 20" wheel options depending on model level.

Sales guy think it is pricey for what it offers. I think so too! I holding off until the 10 speed transmission is available.


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[Ed753]

I checking out the new Acadia and there is so many versions of it that hard to follow. All but the Denali have the plastic gray/back bottom side skirt from what I can tell! In the Denali, you have to have the third row even if you only want two. The All terrain model, you can only get two rows. There are 17", 18", 19" and 20" wheel options depending on model level.

Sales guy think it is pricey for what it offers. I think so too! I holding off until the 10 speed transmission is available.

You are correct; seems like that fits/work for the All-Terrain and/or lower trims, but seems kind of cheap for a SLT-2.

Something else I noticed, every color, except Summit White is a premium up-charge including silver!?

Not really sure what the All-Terrain gets you for $2,000 I'm guessing the main item is 20" wheels?

Premium 20" rims are $2,300 alone, but if you want the more basic looking 20" rims, it automatically puts you in the All-Terrain Package (which eliminates the 3rd-row) seems like that is a set-up for failure, I can imagine someone being surprised when their special ordered 3-row CUV shows up with only 2-rows of seats.

 

[M_RABID]

I sold an 17 Acadia Denali already. The customer had a 2012 Acadia SLT. The first thing I thought when I saw it was WOW Why so small!

Then I sold an 17 Explorer Limited, which had a $2000 less Sticker Price and thought, Why would anyone buy an Acadia?

Sorry guys, just telling it as I see it.

I am not sure GM even cross shops when pricing New Units anymore. It is like "We have the Best, People will pay for it." So lets make more selling less. It doesn't take long for that theory to fail however.

We sell both, and you apparently didn't drive them back to back. A jam loaded Grand Cherokee Limited might be a good comparison to the Acadia Denali, but the explorer feels like a cumbersome pig. Not that the Explorer is a bad vehicle, it really is very nice. It is just more in the realm of the Enclave than the new Acadia. It all comes down to how much room inside you really need. The new acadia Denali is at the peak of high-end SUVs. (pun intended)

 

[Harry_Wild]

The new Acadia is selling according to Automotive News! I may still be holding out for a 9 speed Ford/GM transmission before I go shopping however. Rumor has it that the new Acadia be getting the new transmission in 2019 model year. Just don't see why they would be holding off to release technology that increase acceleration and mileage.

Also, the Denali should be available with two row option that opens up room for a two row storage compartments(4 compartments in total). That would be perfect for me since I use storage more then hauling people around town. I never have more then 4 people inside a vehicle.

But if the price is right; I ready to buy the Acadia Denali full loaded because I don't like the cladding around the body of the All Terrain and the orange seats. Other then that; looking for the big push in November - January time frame. Otherwise; if Honda gets going and ramps up production of it's Rigidline RTL-E model in the same time and I can get a "little discount" on it or buy it at MSRP and not have to have the salesperson say that the dealership can sell it above MSRP because of the demand which is a very big turn off to me. So I going be watchful. Whatever happens first will be my new purchase!

I thinking that the Acadia Denali would be the better choice for me now!

Update: Holding up purchase until the new Traverse, Blazer and Enclave is released! Not that impress with the high price for what you get with the 74.6" width Acadia Denali trim. Seems a bit narrow when I am I the cabin! More like a compact width then a midsize! Pilot is around 98" wide!


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[SierraGS]

You cannot price a Chevy higher than Ford, but GMC is really a rich mans brand. Around here where I live, Carlsbad, Encinitas, Rancho Santa Fe, rich folks and really rich folks drive GMC Denalis, usually the big Suburban one for Mother... and spoilt brats..
Its a very popular brand because its low key.. and its not a Mercedes or Cadillac.

Good Points.

GMC is a brand that many wealthy buyers would rather own than one of the "traditional luxury" brands because it has that "low key" look but has a "masculine" styling that appeals to both men and women buyers.

 

[SierraGS]

We sell both, and you apparently didn't drive them back to back. A jam loaded Grand Cherokee Limited might be a good comparison to the Acadia Denali, but the explorer feels like a cumbersome pig. Not that the Explorer is a bad vehicle, it really is very nice. It is just more in the realm of the Enclave than the new Acadia. It all comes down to how much room inside you really need. The new acadia Denali is at the peak of high-end SUVs. (pun intended)

Agree.

The Explorer is too big for my needs and like how agile the Acadia feels compared to most competitors and why it is on my "Buy" list.

I need the option of the 3rd row seating and puts the Edge and Grand Cherokee off the "consideration" list.

 

[AusCalais]

The dual-zone aircon is set to 64 and 66 deg.

Either the testers were Eskimos or the aircon is not up to snuff... if the latter hopefully Holden sort it out before release... not much worse than a hot Australian summer without good aircon, particularly Outback.

 

[CadillacSA]

The dual-zone aircon is set to 64 and 66 deg.

Either the testers were Eskimos or the aircon is not up to snuff... if the latter hopefully Holden sort it out before release... not much worse than a hot Australian summer without good aircon, particularly Outback.

Dude have you spent a summer in Houston or Phoenix? I don't know how hot your outback is, I only visited Oz in the winter, but I'm sure it's no worse than Arizona or southern Texas where the humidity is a killer. Rest assured, US cars have very potent AC!