[dreadnaught1181]

While I really do think the upgraded powertrain has substantially improved the Expedition and Navigator, I couldn't justify buying a 2006-based vehicle new in 2012.

Now the replacement for this which should be coming in ~2-3 years WILL have my attention.

 

[skylark68]

Sorry, no competition for GM. The few Ford faithful will buy them, but everyone else looking for a traditional full size SUV will buy GM.

 

[optiongm]

Did any of you actually read the article?

"The Expedition EL stops, steers, and rides better than the new Suburban. The Ford's 60-0-mph stopping distance of 121 feet bests that of the Suburban by 9 feet, and its more communicative and accurate steering makes it easier to place precisely on the road. The independent rear suspension ensures the cabin is a calmer place for passengers than in the live-axle Chevy on bumpy back roads, and helps the big Expedition track better through the twisties."

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests...com/roadtests/suvs/2015_ford_expedition_king_ranch_el_first_test/#ixzz3Fa4CXEhX

 

[wingsnut]

You threw in an extra "F" in there, killer.

LOL, no I did not.
Every mother effin word is accounted for

 

[wingsnut]

Does that include the upgraded Lincoln shocks for that price?
Yeah, this is quite the deal.

 

[Greg Burr]

Wow, a 4WD Expedition does the same 0-60 and quarter mile times of a late 70's Trans Am

 

[WishIhadatruck]

I just need somebody to sell a 3/4 full size suv again with a HD replaceable hitch. I'm not counting on it and plan to keep my 2003 another 10 years. The 2007+ models are not adequate with only a 1,000 lb tongue weight limit. They also don't have as comfortable of a 3rd row as the 2000-2006 models either, and the 3rd row head rests are not suitable for adults, just like the back seats of the Silverado's.

I prefer the styling of the current GM models over the Expedition however. If I only needed a light duty tow vehicle, it would be my preference as long as my bikes still fit in the back with the front wheels off. Not sure with the elevated floor.

 

[Envoy4Life]

LOL, no I did not.
Every mother effin word is accounted for

FTMFW right? I read "Fftmfw". Does the second F in the beginning stand for anything? Ford?

 

[bone]

Last generation, Suburban was the clear winner, despite the awful third row.

This generation, Suburban has been uglified, the Expedition hasn't gotten any uglier, and at least the Expedition has a usable third row.

Sorry! The 2015 Suburban, IMO, is the best looking version to date. The Expedition is still as ungainly as ever. I do like the third row seating mechanism, but that certainly wouldn't be enough for me ever to consider purchasing one.

 

[Amphibian]

I'll just say I'd have a really difficult time paying $70,000 for a vehicle that was new for 2007. On the other hand, this EL version (according to MT) rides and handles better than the GMs and is quicker than a Tahoe, much less a Suburban. Eh, I guess I'd seriously have to shop both.

Toyota Sequoia FTW!

 

[Bvonscott]

First of all they compared its acceleration to the suburban that was using a 3.08 gear. If they wanted to compare acceleration they should have used a 3.42.

Also at the price they tested you can get a Yukon Denali that completely annihilates Ford in every aspect.

 

[Bvonscott]

GMC is terrible as well.

If they put the Silverado and Sierra front ends on the SUVs, they would look great. I think the GM trucks are just fantastic looking (the front ends, at least), so I can't believe how awful the SUVs look in comparison.

As far as the sales lead... I'd love to know how many retail Tahoes and Suburbans Chevy sells.

This is obviously your ford biased subjective opinion. Because in my eyes and the market's eyes the GMC is beautiful.

 

[Bvonscott]

Did any of you actually read the article?

"The Expedition EL stops, steers, and rides better than the new Suburban. The Ford's 60-0-mph stopping distance of 121 feet bests that of the Suburban by 9 feet, and its more communicative and accurate steering makes it easier to place precisely on the road. The independent rear suspension ensures the cabin is a calmer place for passengers than in the live-axle Chevy on bumpy back roads, and helps the big Expedition track better through the twisties."

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests...com/roadtests/suvs/2015_ford_expedition_king_ranch_el_first_test/#ixzz3Fa4CXEhX

That's nice but where is the comparison to a similarly price Denali XL that has an 8speed, magnetic shocks, and a 6.2 liter that blows doors off???

A Yukon Denali XL 4x4 starts at $69,375.

 

[LetsRace]

Is it fair now?

No! :lmao:

 

[RedSkyBlackDream]

"The Expedition EL stops, steers, and rides better than the new Suburban. The Ford's 60-0-mph stopping distance of 121 feet bests that of the Suburban by 9 feet, and its more communicative and accurate steering makes it easier to place precisely on the road. The independent rear suspension ensures the cabin is a calmer place for passengers than in the live-axle Chevy on bumpy back roads, and helps the big Expedition track better through the twisties."

This is embarrassing to GM IMO. How is the old Expedition still better in all of these areas when the GM's SUV's are ALL NEW!?!? I know, the IRS but seriously? WOW. Although I would still take a Suburban, Yukon XL, and of course Escalade ESV over the Expedition EL and Navigator L, this is impressive along with their Ecoboost. Why don't they offer the 5.0L like they do on the F-150 though? It should be a no charge option no matter which one you go with.

 

[CJH]

That's nice but where is the comparison to a similarly price Denali XL that has an 8speed, magnetic shocks, and a 6.2 liter that blows doors off???

A Yukon Denali XL 4x4 starts at $69,375.

Does that exist yet? As far as I know, there aren't any 8-speeds on lots yet.

 

[RedSkyBlackDream]

First of all they compared its acceleration to the suburban that was using a 3.08 gear. If they wanted to compare acceleration they should have used a 3.42.

Also at the price they tested you can get a Yukon Denali that completely annihilates Ford in every aspect.

Have you been up close and personal with Ford's King Ranch packages? You might want to take a look if you haven't.

 

[96RIV]

I do love the King Ranch line on Ford's trucks, but I'd still take a Tahoe/Yukon over the Ford twins. I'm pretty partial to the Yukon/XL.

On another note, I saw a new Escalade on the road the other day, it definitely had road presence and looked like a pressed suit driving down the road.

 

[SP1966]

I'll just say I'd have a really difficult time paying $70,000 for a vehicle that was new for 2007. On the other hand, this EL version (according to MT) rides and handles better than the GMs and is quicker than a Tahoe, much less a Suburban. Eh, I guess I'd seriously have to shop both.

Toyota Sequoia FTW!

You would rather spend $70K for a brand new design that is functionally inferior?

 

[wingsnut]

I might pay $70g's for a Hellcat challenger that looks similar to a vehicle made many decades ago.