[Phoenix]

Just because one doesn't use the feature, doesn't mean you omit it.
That's the problem with GM's corporate thinking. It doesn't work.

"The majority of the people prefer a key." So lets give them a key.... But the market is moving away from them to buttons.

"The majority of people don't use bluetooth." So lets not pre-wire our car for bluetooth.... yet every single phone out there is going bluetooth, and it's the fastest growing option.

"People don't need HID. Halogens are fine." But all the imports are adding them, making GM cars look dated.

GM is perpetuating this "inside the box thinking" that got them in trouble in the first place.

Look, I'm not saying GM should make lazy, half ass Cadillacs, because I agree with a lot of your gripes about the brand. But flash to pass doesn't compare to the things you mentioned. This was a cheap shot at an excellent car, the guy just had to find something to justify his unhealthy super-preference for BMWs.

 

[mgescuro]

IDK mgescuro, all those things you just listen yes ur right... but flash to pass,? the guys just being a douche and i doubt the cts doesnt have it but my mothers new tahoe does...

Yes, I agree. It's very very very small. And very nitpicky -- even for me.
But the ability still needs to be there.
You know, if this was an Aveo, it wouldn't be a problem.
But this is a luxury sedan. It shouldn't be skimped on. Or details shouldn't be "forgotten" or "ignored."

It's not proper.

At this level, it's very inappropriate for a car to be missing small things like this. Makes me want to go test drive another CTS just to make sure.

Look, I'm not saying GM should make lazy, half ass Cadillacs, because I agree with a lot of your gripes about the brand. But flash to pass doesn't compare to the things you mentioned. This was a cheap shot at an excellent car, the guy just had to find something to justify his unhealthy super-preference for BMWs.

Yes. It does seem like a cheap shot. But at this level of car, you should expect all the bells and whistles to be there. And you expect them to work.

It just seems inconceivable that GM would miss this on purpose.
And if they did... shame on them!!

 

[ANT]

Are we even deffinatley sure that it is not on the CTS? my moms tahoe has it and my gf cobalt too

 

[paul8488]

Actually, I think it's irresponsible of automakers to offer this. People don't know what it means... they aren't trained to use or understand 'flash-to-pass'... what if someone in their BMW pulls up behind you and flashes... you might assume they're saying "Hey, it's okay, you stay ahead of me" or "Excuse me, your gas filler door is open".

I think this flash to pass thing is actually going to cause more accidents than it will avoid... if I see soneone flash I assume it means they want me to go faster... I'll speed up just as they pull out to pass... and *CRASH* they get creamed by the semi coming in the other direction. All because they flashed to pass me. They should be concentrating on driving, as should I... not playing with silly morse-code flash signals that no one knows.

I was going to buy a 3 series, but not now! I might accidentally use flash to pass and cause or get into an accident. No thanks, I'll have to find a vehicle without this feature of death.

 

[zete]

I've always thought "flash to pass" was hitting your brights for a second. You do this by pulling back on the stalk and then letting go. My Enclave, with HIDs, has this as did my prior CTS, also with HIDs. This makes me wonder as Shenhar even states: "Subsequently, we discovered that our Buick Enclave lacks flash-to-pass as well." Uh. I have a fully loaded Enclave and it has flash to pass. I JUST checked.

I also wonder if it's something that works with the DRL (daytime running lights) on. I know they're mandatory here, so maybe it works with the DRLs but not when DRL is off. As it's settable folks with a CTS and HIDs should try and let us know.

 

[ANT]

I've always thought "flash to pass" was hitting your brights for a second. You do this by pulling back on the stalk and then letting go. My Enclave, with HIDs, has this as did my prior CTS, also with HIDs. This makes me wonder as Shenhar even states: "Subsequently, we discovered that our Buick Enclave lacks flash-to-pass as well." Uh. I have a fully loaded Enclave and it has flash to pass. I JUST checked.

I also wonder if it's something that works with the DRL (daytime running lights) on. I know they're mandatory here, so maybe it works with the DRLs but not when DRL is off. As it's settable folks with a CTS and HIDs should try and let us know.

yes thank you i think this guys is retarded!

 

[mgescuro]

I've always thought "flash to pass" was hitting your brights for a second. You do this by pulling back on the stalk and then letting go. My Enclave, with HIDs, has this as did my prior CTS, also with HIDs. This makes me wonder as Shenhar even states: "Subsequently, we discovered that our Buick Enclave lacks flash-to-pass as well." Uh. I have a fully loaded Enclave and it has flash to pass. I JUST checked.

I also wonder if it's something that works with the DRL (daytime running lights) on. I know they're mandatory here, so maybe it works with the DRLs but not when DRL is off. As it's settable folks with a CTS and HIDs should try and let us know.

Well that's the thing. Does flash to pass work, when the headlights are off? or do you headlights need to be on, in order for them to work?

Flash to Pass should work... even when headlights are off... and the DRL's are on. I think that's the point the blogger was trying to make.

Would someone with a 2G CTS and/or Enclave just test this out and settle it??

 

[Gm786]

that's stupid!
they had to nitpick!!

What else is new about CR. They always do that you know. Regardless of if they give a GM vehicle a positive review or rating I'm never going to have a good view of them. Sorry but they built a bad reputation for their selves in my mind and I'm never going to trust or like them. That's just me.

 

[zete]

Well that's the thing. Does flash to pass work, when the headlights are off? or do you headlights need to be on, in order for them to work?

Flash to Pass should work... even when headlights are off... and the DRL's are on. I think that's the point the blogger was trying to make.

Would someone with a 2G CTS and/or Enclave just test this out and settle it??

I tried it on my Enclave. It works. DRL on the Enclaves is the fog lights, not the regular headlights. It hits the brights when you pull back on the stalk.

 

[ANT]

I tried it on my Enclave. It works. DRL on the Enclaves is the fog lights, not the regular headlights. It hits the brights when you pull back on the stalk.

so that settles it then no?

 

[GM-Joe]

All I know is that every bimmer I see has large body panel gaps that no one ever notices but me; even worse than the old plastic Ion.

 

[CobaltSScrazy]

i have it on the 2004 malibu and my bro's 06 cobalt both LS'.

CobaltSScrazy

I usse that very rarely, basically to tell someone what an idiot they were and why i dislike thir driving style.

CobaltSScrazy

 

[mgescuro]

I tried it on my Enclave. It works. DRL on the Enclaves is the fog lights, not the regular headlights. It hits the brights when you pull back on the stalk.

If it works like that... then the blogger is an idiot.
Does it flash to pass when the engine is off?

 

[zete]

i have it on the 2004 malibu and my bro's 06 cobalt both LS'.

CobaltSScrazy

I usse that very rarely, basically to tell someone what an idiot they were and why i dislike thir driving style.

CobaltSScrazy

That and most folks don't even move over.

I recall watching a program on the CBC a number of years ago where a Canadian was commenting on how well they drove in Europe. He was waxing poetic about how drivers will move over when you flash them to the CBC reporter in the car with him somewhere in Western Europe. He then came up on a car, flashed. Flashed again. Flashed repeatedly and then began to swear. It was very funny. He then tried to regain his composure claiming he must've found the only European who was unaware that he had to move over when flashed. The CBC reporter said nothing, just smiled. It was priceless.

I find most people don't pay much attention to traffic behind them. Flashing does little, other than expend a bit of energy on behalf of the car and your fingers as you pull on the stalk.

 

[zete]

If it works like that... then the blogger is an idiot.
Does it flash to pass when the engine is off?

No. None of the exterior lights will come on when the car is off. You can force the headlights on manually, but the brake lights and high beams are disabled. The car must be in the "on" position. The lights come "on" when you use the keyfob to open the doors, but that's a safety feature.

One nice feature I've found in my last couple of GM cars is if you use the emergency brake, when you next turn the car on, even at night, the headlights stay off. Quite handy when waiting and pointing at some picture window.

 

[ANT]

If it works like that... then the blogger is an idiot.
Does it flash to pass when the engine is off?

i just checked my moms tahoe because i got curious.. like i said it has it, it works with the lights off and the engine off but with the key in on ACC.. i cant see a chevy having flash to pass and not the world car cadillac. and if zete's enclave has it then that settles it he is either an idiot or just a huge biased douche

 

[zete]

i just checked my moms tahoe because i got curious.. like i said it has it, it works with the lights off and the engine off but with the key in on ACC.. i cant see a chevy having flash to pass and not the world car cadillac. and if zete's enclave has it then that settles it he is either an idiot or just a huge biased douche

Or he tried it with the car off. The Enclave's high beams (and thus flash-to-pass) will NOT work with the car off. It has to be at least in "on". I didn't try "ACC".

 

[TriShield]

Details? The CTS details, plenty of them. Look at the interior, the exterior; all around there's attention to detail.

I've driven a couple and the details are still lacking in quite a few areas, not just this one. The biggest issues by far are still engine refinement and transmission shifting.

GM has global aspirations for this car but they still don't seem to get that people who are German car customers will expect the same kind of details in a car trying to compete with them that they are used to. Like a flash-to-pass feature that works intuitively and like the cars they buy.

 

[TimR]

I'll bet it has it and he just didn't read the manual, perhaps the operation is different than his illustrious BMW's. Even my 2007 Sierra has flash to pass.

Update, FLASH TO PASS IS STANDARD EQUIPMENT ON THE 2008 CTS!!!

Look at pic, taken from GM's online ordering guide:

 

[Ronald McChevy]

I'll bet it has it and he just didn't read the manual, perhaps the operation is different than his illustrious BMW's. Even my 2007 Sierra has flash to pass.

Update, FLASH TO PASS IS STANDARD EQUIPMENT ON THE 2008 CTS!!!

Look at pic, taken from GM's online ordering guide:

I called it!

Someone needs to email this guy and point out his stupidity to him. Let's keep a lookout for an apology too, although I doubt he'll give one.