concept?

Welcome to 2007... geez that truck is soooo long in the tooth and the diesel option should have been available long ago.

not even an exciting paint job! SNORE

 

Yeah, the current Frontier is so old -- this concept car will hit the classic car shows NEXT year.
Boo-yah.

 

Bring it on. Concept a snore or not, more diesel choices in the truck market are better.

 

Two things I've taken from this article. 1) The Colorado/Canyon should be able to earn a 30 MPG rating for the highway. 2) Just when you think you've gotten a surprise on your competitors, they pull the cover off of a competing product. GM would do well to try to move up their plans for emissions certification & sales to customers for the 2.8L Dmax.

Nissan has had their own 4 & 6-cylinder diesel engines in other global markets. I think Cummins made some kind of deal to make the Nissan deal happen.

 

If they bring as spec'd or even a little stronger then ..... there is going to a problem for GM.


Notice..... Nissan pulls the big boy move on a concept @ least...... ie no JATCO 7sp AT or similar...... but yep, the obvious choice of an ZF8HP70.


Which leads to the 8HP 'question' concerning the 5.0 Cummins in the Titan......

 

I don't think there is any doubt about 8 speed transmissions coming out in the new trucks. I think GM and Ford will be the last ones out with them. Not that it truly matters with the 10 speed around the corner. Nissan is in a do or die situation with the Titan. As old as it is, it must be ground breaking and stunning to stand any chance.

 

If anyone is interested, here is link to the page of this engine.

210 hp @ 3,600 rpm
385 lb-f t@ 1,800 rpm

 

So the Department of Energy helps fund the design of an engine.

Yeah GM gets the same break.

 

Neat design elements.

 

Where?

 

I wonder if in the more-long term, Nissan might drop their own in-house diesel they did with Renault known as the V9X engine in Europe?

 

Is this same vehicle as a Nissan Navara we get here with a 4 cyl 2.5l turbo diesel?

 

:yup: I remember reading a GoAuto.com.au article a few months ago & was surprised that Nissan (who now has their US HQ just a 45 minute drive from me) doesn't already sell a diesel engine in the Frontier. Even if they only sold the 2.5TD, it would continue to build brand loyalty.

 

How does this compare in size to the new Colorado/Canyon? I get a sinking feeling that GM went too close to the big trucks.

As for the Nissan... I can see the rear bumper and roof rack rusting already. I'm sure they'll sell a bunch if they build it.

 

Just by reading comments in another thread, the 2015 Colo/Canyon will be a little bigger than the Frontier. That's not to say that when Nissan gets around to redesigning the Frontier that it won't grow in size.

 

GM 4.5L turbo-diesel
GM 4.5L turbo-diesel
GM 4.5L turbo-diesel
GM 4.5L turbo-diesel
GM 4.5L turbo-diesel
GM 4.5L turbo-diesel
GM 4.5L turbo-diesel

In a Silverado regular cab with a short bed.
And if the pick-up gods are smiling on the project: it's got a 6 speed stick.

 

Nissan is just playing the same game as Toyota, same truck for the last 3/4 of a decade. They could do that since they are practically the only ones out there in the segment. I had a 2007 Frontier with a V6 and a 6-speed manual. I really loved that truck. The powertrain was simply awesome.

If Nissan puts a diesel in both of their redesigned trucks they will do significantly better than they are doing right now, or have done in the past. With so many powertrain choices on the market and upcoming ones, it's a great time to be a truck enthusiast.

 

Nissan is just playing the same game as Toyota, same truck for the last 3/4 of a decade. They could do that since they are practically the only ones out there in the segment. I had a 2007 Frontier with a V6 and a 6-speed manual. I really loved that truck. The powertrain was simply awesome.

I also heard then Nissan still sold the previous-gen pick-up truck in Venezuela.

 

I wonder if Nissan will use the cummins engine for the Global Navarra post re design
and I believe Nissan builds the GLOBAL Navarra DIESEL in Tennessee NOW
and for LONG model runs it is NOT like GM/Ford redesigned their trucks every few years 1988 to 1998 for the "400" GM's 1999 to 2006 for the "800"

 

I believe Nissan builds the GLOBAL Navarra DIESEL in Tennessee NOW

Negative. It was moved to Canton, MS. http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/releases/growth-drives-nissan-frontier-xterra-to-canton-miss

I also heard then Nissan still sold the previous-gen pick-up truck in Venezuela.

I can't find a correct website that shows Nissan's Venezuelan lineup. The only link close enough does still show the previous Frontier in the small pictures. However, Venezuela isn't the only locale to sell the previous model of Frontier as a current model. Some countries are selling the previous Frontier under that name & selling the current truck as the Navara. Talk about juggling your models. Although, in Bolivia, Nissan also sells this: http://www.nissan.com.bo/sp/web/models/PATROL%20PICKUP/home/hpage.htm

 

I have updated the first post with a link to a feedback survey about this truck.

 

Yeah, Thanks. I just took it. I'm glad to see Nissan upping the ante here and hope GM sees what's going on and steps up their game as well to do the competition one better to go for a bigger option.

 

I would like to see a head to head performance # of the Cummins 2.8 VS the Nissan 3.0L 4 POT
and I assume the engine mounted post treatment system is why it does NOT fit in the frontier