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Cadillac CTS-V Will Get More than 640 HP

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Cadillac CTS-V Will Get More than 640 HP
Eric Weiner/Automobile magazine
October 19, 2015

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The 2016 Cadillac CTS-V, that 640-hp muscled four-door track star, is destined for even greater power output, says a well-placed source inside Cadillac.

With 84 more horsepower than it had in its last iteration, and still 80 and 83 hp more than the BMW M5 and Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG, respectively, the CTS-V is the unquestioned king of luxury super-sedan horsepower. So why is Cadillac already planning its next move?
The answer is that while the 2016 Cadillac CTS-V is on top for now, the current competition is relatively dated. As AMG and M prepare their answers to the CTS-V, Cadillac has its trump card (even more power) ready in hand.

“The Cold War continues,” says our source. “I don’t know where it stops, but it’s not at 640 hp, that’s for sure.”
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#2 ·
Article doesn't say much at all..
But what do you think will be future engine in CTS-V?
A same as in Corvette or unique engine made for Cadillac ( top version of V8TT) that we are supposed to see in couple of years?
 
#3 ·
WTF??? What does this mean? Should I wait in Spring? Will I kno at that time where this going??? Anyone else think that the "more HP" means not LT4? As in TTV8?
 
#5 ·
Yes this. A track edition and maybe a manual trans in the last year of the gen would be perfect.
 
#7 ·
Well, if I may lend my armchair genius, this is what I'd do:

A new twin-turbo Cadillac V-8, which would support both more volume-oriented (Vsport level) and higher end (V-Series level) variations, and therefore output could range wildly. The lower output versions would be shared with the Corvette Stingray, although of course the Vette would have its own exhaust tuning, etc. The Z06/CTS-V sharing of a high-output version would continue. Although the CTS-V wouldn't really need much more sheer horsepower and torque, the torque band of the twin-turbo V-8 would probably provide superior performance nonetheless (The CTS-V already has its hands full during acceleration with, say, an RS7, even at high speeds, in spite of its considerable power advantage, so added performance isn't pointless). This great engine would also enhance the Corvette's performance. Cadillac really wants to market themselves as a performance luxury brand. While I don't share that specific vision, this presents an obvious opportunity: all the easier to market the Cadillacs that share "a Corvette engine".

As for other things the CTS-V could use, an AWD option of some kind and carbon ceramic braking would be worthwhile. Oh, and keep up the limited editions.
 
#10 ·
If more horsepower and torque is going to be introduced, it is almost a guarantee that AWD from CT6 is necessary to handle all that power and torque coming out of corners with confidence without tail spinning out of control. Maybe adding four-wheel steering as well.
 
#31 ·
SICK!!!:dro:
 
#22 ·
I can't believe some think 640 hp isn't enough.

That's crazy.....IMO

I agree AWD would be a more valuable addition ....
 
#24 ·
I know more power is a good thing, but wow, over 640 hp!!! I wonder what will happen over the next decade. Where do you go from there? Passenger cars with over 1,000 hp? Just seems like at some point there will be a ceiling, and it will be interesting to see how the manufacturers differentiate themselves then.
 
#29 ·
Yea making a hardcore track CTS at its current size/weight just doesn't make much sense, it is like the Bentley Continental GT3 car.... . Sure it is the lightest of the CGT however it is still like 900 pounds heavier then your typical track cars. The 1LE and Z/28 are realistically probably at the upper limits of what a track car can weigh given current tire technology and suspension technology.
 
#34 ·
Very nice !! Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#44 ·
I love the small block just as much as anyone here but I really believe and hope that Cadillac gets their own engines.
Base Engines should be as follows:

2.0T 300HP
3.0TT (V6) 400HP
4.0TT (V8) 500HP

The CTS-V should pack 700HP from the 4.00TT V8 with performance oriented AWD
take it to the Germans.
On a side note, I'd love a DSG for at least the V cars just like BMW uses for their M division cars.
(The DSG, can be shared with Vette, Camaro, SS sedan and the Cruze SS Hatch)
The 8 speed currently used should be in high performance GM models and the base versions of Cadillacs
 
#51 ·
2.0T 300HP
3.0TT (V6) 400HP
4.0TT (V8) 500HP

The CTS-V should pack 700HP from the 4.00TT V8 with performance oriented AWD
take it to the Germans.
700 HP from 4.0 l v8 TT..that is the type of engine you can find in Ferrari 488 (3.9l V8 TT F154 CB) and McLaren P1(3.8 l V8 TT M838T ) .
How much do you expect future CTS-V to cost?
I'm not so sure 4.0 l will be displacement of future top V8 engine in Cadillac.
 
#47 · (Edited)
^^^ but again the word is rumor. I believe the C7 is a "C2" like situation where the actual generation will only be 5 years. The C8 will come upon us in 2019 so we'll see. I have no issue with a mid-engine Vette, but only as a part of a minimum 5 car/CUV brand.. and only if Cadillac gets one first. Again.. Cadillac should be to GM like Audi is to VW.. and Corvette should be like Porsche. Screw Bugatti and Lambo
 
#54 ·
There is certainly a cost benefit to using the same piston and connecting rods between a 2.0L 4 cylinder, 3.0L 6 cylinder, and 4.0L 8 cylinder. You can even scale this up to 5.0L 10 cylinder and 6.0L 12 cylinder engines. Though you probably won't be able to share those parts between the mundane versions of your vehicles and the super versions as you might want specialty high performance parts in your engine. Displacement limits in some countries have created ceilings in engine sizes with the idea of a smaller engine being more fuel efficient.
 
#55 ·
What do you think is the ceiling for the CTS-V? Either for this version or the next! Let's say this version gets a bump to 700 ish, how much higher could we expect the next generation to be able to support? 750/800? The reason I ask is at what point will the public stop buying cars with this much hp? I have no problem with GM adding as much power they can but I'm not like most people. Most people are not interested in a car with this much hp for a daily driver.