[Z16monte]

Re: Last Lordstown Vehicle Enters The Production Line; Chevy Cruze Is History

All Cruze hatchbacks in Canada are made in Mexico... I dunno.

All NA Cruze hatches are hecho en Mexico

 

[Chassis Guy]

Still. It's ignorant. Somebody in Product Planning should be getting fired, with no pension, for causing thousands of lost jobs. The second gen was the bullet. NO ONE wants a Chevy that looks like a Hyundai. WTF???

Grounds for termination. All of Design through all of the approval bobble-heads... You imbeciles approved Aztek, nixed Granite, took almost a decade to finally approve the Traverse. Jesus!!!! There's a fire that should be started. Lots of under-brush and junk STILL IN PLACE that's destroying my favorite auto maker. THOSE CLOWNS are the people that need to see the street, face-down.

If GM fails to remain a full-range manufacturer AND go all Electric/Autonomous, yes, the spiral is in effect. Mary and Mark are not all that. Mark is a stiff. People have been kissing his boots since 1993. Mary listens. THAT is a great strength of hers. She was my Director at one point back at GM. Although, she got notably prickly when a questioner asked why hundreds of millions were put into Spring Hill to convert from Ions to Traverses, and then the Traverse got moved to Lansing, and GM was (at the time) short on small cars like the Cruze. 11 years later, I can guarantee there will be no response to bad decisions made earlier. Just wish I could make stupid decisions like that and KEEP my job...

A lot of us do, I'm sure. Sad, but true.

 

[AutoCrazy]

Sorry to it go. Sincerely sorry.

 

[ryannel2003]

Re: Last Lordstown Vehicle Enters The Production Line; Chevy Cruze Is History

I guess GM wants to hand the small car business to Honda and Toyota so they can make more Civics and Corollas. Why are fleet sales so bad? FCA keeps their ancient chargers pumping out like crazy for the gov, state,local gov's and rental fleets.

Not to mention plenty of happy retail buyers like myself.

 

[RedSkyBlackDream]

Re: Last Lordstown Vehicle Enters The Production Line; Chevy Cruze Is History

And Corvette. Plus, the Impala got a reprieve (at least for a while).

Wow. So Spark, Bolt, Malibu, Camaro and Corvette with a stay of execution gave to Impala.

Sonic I'm not so sure about but its a car I'd choose over many cars in its class - Cruze, Volt and Impala I'm dearly disappointed in.

Sidenote: My daughter being that her Mom is Mexican and I'm Black, I've been trying to decide on what car to get her since she not only is having a quinceanera (15) next year (that's already reaching $20K), I have to give her a sweet 16 for my side of the fam too. The Cruze is looking like the best deal for her and my pockets now. If my other two cars weren't RWD I'd actually drive a Volt or Cruze myself and swap cars with her every now and then. If my boyfriend wasn't such a German car fan I'd have help with all of this. If its any mention of an American car he doesn't want to hear about it.

 

[ksr]

This is a shame. Despite a lot of GMIers posting stuff that would make you think the Cruze was this century's Yugo, it's a good car. GM got so much right here. They should have had a coupe and they should have had a legitimate performance version. But anyone looking for a reliable car that's good transportation that also, to my eyes, happens to look good, they would have been well served by a Cruze.

 

[ksr]

Re: Last Lordstown Vehicle Enters The Production Line; Chevy Cruze Is History

The Cruze development team either 1.) could not decipher the Civic secret sauce...or..2.) figured it out but couldn't sell it to the bean counters. My money is on number 2.
In that case, the thinking would be.."Well, we can build a great car for $10.00 and charge a crap load for it...or build a pretty nice car for $7.00 and still charge a crap load, no one will be the wiser and we just saved 3 bucks a copy". A pervasive mindset that still has a grip on the company today across all model lines. And the chant in the Ren Cen halls is "We're number three, We're number three, We're number three..." Woo Hoo!!!!!
Loser mentality. And a morale killer.

I don't now if GM is still at as bad a cost disadvantage. But in the past, while they could possibly have built that great car for $10.00, Honda and Toyota could do it for $8. And despite some people that will inevitably say, "I'd be willing to pay more for a great American car that's clearly better than an import," the reality is that these people are few and far between.

People love to dump on the "bean counters." No one likes killjoy accountants. But if you build a great car that isn't price competitive, it will fail. The money saved per unit, while leading to unfortunate compromises in the product, might be the difference between a profit and a loss. And with a lot of small cars in the past, the difference between a manageable loss and a tidal wave of red ink. The Ford Escort was the best selling car in the US for a number of years. Ford claims to have lost money on every one of them. I think GM has claimed this with past j-bodies which used to sell in the hundreds of thousands across five divisions.

 

[richmond2000]

Re: Last Lordstown Vehicle Enters The Production Line; Chevy Cruze Is History

I don't now if GM is still at as bad a cost disadvantage. But in the past, while they could possibly have built that great car for $10.00, Honda and Toyota could do it for $8. And despite some people that will inevitably say, "I'd be willing to pay more for a great American car that's clearly better than an import," the reality is that these people are few and far between.

People love to dump on the "bean counters." No one likes killjoy accountants. But if you build a great car that isn't price competitive, it will fail. The money saved per unit, while leading to unfortunate compromises in the product, might be the difference between a profit and a loss. And with a lot of small cars in the past, the difference between a manageable loss and a tidal wave of red ink. The Ford Escort was the best selling car in the US for a number of years. Ford claims to have lost money on every one of them. I think GM has claimed this with past j-bodies which used to sell in the hundreds of thousands across five divisions.

I believe a BIG part is in the USA "compact" cars are the CHEAP entry option VS globally are considered "family cars" and the DET 3 refused to think globally and make ONE car for ALL of the world VS Toyota / Honda and friends

I also got the feeling that the canceled models are MORE to do with the PLANTS and LESS to do with the CAR logically the Cruze should go on and the SONIC should go away as teh Cruze has better pricing power and is a constant top rated car and with the high CAFE fuel economy in those "metrics" the sonic "sucks" and for a LOT of buyers the SONIC to Malibu step is to BIG and the SPARK is so much cheaper to buy the SONIC wont do well as the "by first car"

 

[Oldsmobile stopped]

Not a big fan of small FWD compact cars but this is still dreadful news l am hugely disappointed to see Cruze go even if it is being made sold at a loss.

If Toyota can turn in a tidy profit on its Corolla compact car in North America with it's lean low cost production techniques you have got to ask the question why can't General Motors do the same?

 

[steve333]

Not a big fan of small FWD compact cars but this is still dreadful news l am hugely disappointed to see Cruze go even if it is being made sold at a loss.

If Toyota can turn in a tidy profit on its Corolla compact car in North America with it's lean low cost production techniques you have got to ask the question why can't General Motors do the same?

Incompetent and lazy