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Its all about junkets fully paid for to Germany for poor Journalists during Oktoberfest, and you know who gets to go, and its not you, naughty you.. no you.... no no.... only the good ones.. get to go...
Sadly, the German's can get away with that, if they are doing it.

I really have hopes for Cadillac to have a real shot at elevating their prestige as they transition to BEV when I see the Lyric vs. the more or less disappointing/seen it before BEV offerings from the Germans. Have to wait and see what happens...
 
a 100 plus luxury brand that didn't apparently know that they were supposed to make the CT5 a luxury car as well...

"Lows:
Mediocre interior"

:LOL:
 
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Yeah, that 35 year old upstart Acura...🤔
I never understood the concept that somehow a car brand can’t be great because of its age.
 
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The sad part is that Cadillac a 100 plus luxury brand is being compared to these two upstarts
Age of car brands have nothing to do with anything. The designers and engineers at Cadillac weren’t alive and building cars a 100 years ago. These cars are all relatively new to the market. They are all priced similarly. Their size is similar. And MotorTrend told you the reason BMW, Mercedes and Audi were not part of the comparison. And that was their inability to get their hands on those cars in time to do the comparison.
 
Heritage used to carry some weight, if its well managed over time, but I can think of about only 4 automotive brands that have managed it well over time.
1. Rolls
2. Bentley
3. Porsche
4. Corvette

You might throw in Ferrari but even they have made blunders. Those 4 brands have managed to stay true to their identity through it all. But right now, Porsche is on a very bad path.
 
I never understood the concept that somehow a car brand can’t be great because of its age.
Well, I certainly don't understand the concept that a non-German brand can't be great and I have to face it every day. As for Acura & Infiniti, Genesis can replace both of them. There are already too many premium/luxury manufacturers. Korea never had one so they deserve one.

Porsche is on a very bad path.
Yes that's true. I remember a Porsche executive saying sh... like 'our customers love their sports car so much that they want a daily driver wearing the same badge in their garage'. At the end all those SUVs are leased by people who never had or will have a 911. Mostly women drive them, some of them elderly already. In the pictures You see an accident that happened in Slovak village sometime ago. A grandmother ran over her granddaughter and hit the house. Too much power or too much prestige?

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By the way, production of CT4/CT5 finally started up again this week, with the 2022 models.


The Configurator over at the Caddy website is still showing 2021s (except for Blackwing which are 2022). I assume that will change soon.

What was the Driver Awareness Plus package (safety stuff) is now standard on all models, including base Luxury trim. The Driver Assist package, which includes Adaptive Cruise, is standard on PremLux and Sport trims. SuperCruise is now also optional on PremLux/Sport. A few other minor updates for 2022. I'm hoping the price increase will be minor.
 
By the way, production of CT4/CT5 finally started up again this week, with the 2022 models.


The Configurator over at the Caddy website is still showing 2021s (except for Blackwing which are 2022). I assume that will change soon.
I'm almost sad - I've only seen one other CT4 on the road in my area over the past year. Kind of nice having my car be a rarity :D
 
I'm almost sad - I've only seen one other CT4 on the road in my area over the past year. Kind of nice having my car be a rarity :D
I've seen maybe two CT4s my way (I wish one of them was mine!), maybe 8-10 CT5s. My local Caddy dealer has had zero for months.
 
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You know...I agree...these TV6s don't really have as much power as you think they would...there are turbo 4s with as much, if not more power. I'm not expecting strung out GTR TTV6s pumping out 500+, but I'm expecting low-mid 400s out of performance tuned Turbo 6s.
A turbo 4 pumping out 350+hp is going to be a high-strung engine (depending on displacement). A TTV6 with ~350hp can hit that metric fairly easily. It's a balance of power, fuel milage. The Acura is just too heavy IMHO.

I've had a Conquest with a strong turbo 4 then I upgraded to my Supra. Big difference in drivability.
 
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By the way, production of CT4/CT5 finally started up again this week, with the 2022 models.


The Configurator over at the Caddy website is still showing 2021s (except for Blackwing which are 2022). I assume that will change soon.

What was the Driver Awareness Plus package (safety stuff) is now standard on all models, including base Luxury trim. The Driver Assist package, which includes Adaptive Cruise, is standard on PremLux and Sport trims. SuperCruise is now also optional on PremLux/Sport. A few other minor updates for 2022. I'm hoping the price increase will be minor.
Also, the 15 speaker premium Bose system is now standard on the 5-V. The platinum now requires super cruise, and the CT5-V now has the sueded microfiber interior package and torch red seatbelt available, the former is also part of the platinum package. The sueded microfiber package includes headliner and pillars on the 5-V and headliner and first two pillars on the 4-V. The 14 speaker premium Bose system is now standard on the 4-V.
 
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Interesting how the Genesis and the Acura both have odd trim and styling behind the rear passenger windows, just like the controversial piece on the CT-5.

I hope Cadillac doesn't completely bail out on sedans. They're just too good. The CT5-V Blackwing review in the latest Motor Trend is just glowing.
 
Also, the 15 speaker premium Bose system is now standard on the 5-V. The platinum now requires super cruise, and the CT5-V now has the sueded microfiber interior package and torch red seatbelt available, the former is also part of the platinum package. The sueded microfiber package includes headliner and pillars on the 5-V and headliner and first two pillars on the 4-V. The 14 speaker premium Bose system is now standard on the 4-V.
Cadillac should just go all AKG. the Bose performance is pretty good, but leave that for non Cadillac brands. Just have levels of AKG.
 
Also, the 15 speaker premium Bose system is now standard on the 5-V. The platinum now requires super cruise, and the CT5-V now has the sueded microfiber interior package and torch red seatbelt available, the former is also part of the platinum package. The sueded microfiber package includes headliner and pillars on the 5-V and headliner and first two pillars on the 4-V. The 14 speaker premium Bose system is now standard on the 4-V.
Add to the list wireless phone charging now standard across all trims CT4/CT5 for 2022:

gm authority dot com/blog/2021/10/2022-cadillac-ct4-gets-standard-wireless-phone-charging/
 
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Also, the 15 speaker premium Bose system is now standard on the 5-V. The platinum now requires super cruise, and the CT5-V now has the sueded microfiber interior package and torch red seatbelt available, the former is also part of the platinum package. The sueded microfiber package includes headliner and pillars on the 5-V and headliner and first two pillars on the 4-V. The 14 speaker premium Bose system is now standard on the 4-V.
Add to the list wireless phone charging now standard across all trims CT4/CT5 for 2022:

gm authority dot com/blog/2021/10/2022-cadillac-ct4-gets-standard-wireless-phone-charging/
Now they just need to advertise these cars better. The ads I see are ok but forgettable. I suspect Cadillac feels like it got burned playing up the sportiness of the ATS at launch, but, I think they need to mirror their Y packaging strategy with the advertising. Put the luxury oriented ads in the right shows and then have sporty version ads targeting the right shows. My CT4-V gets a lot of attention, a lot of people come up to me asking about it. They all love it, but one underlying point is many of them don't know what it is. No one will buy it if they don't know it exists.
 
Now they just need to advertise these cars better. The ads I see are ok but forgettable. I suspect Cadillac feels like it got burned playing up the sportiness of the ATS at launch, but, I think they need to mirror their Y packaging strategy with the advertising. Put the luxury oriented ads in the right shows and then have sporty version ads targeting the right shows. My CT4-V gets a lot of attention, a lot of people come up to me asking about it. They all love it, but one underlying point is many of them don't know what it is. No one will buy it if they don't know it exists.
Hold on, you've seen adds? Here in the D.M.V. I have yet to see one. Plenty of Lyriq adds though, which is nice.
 
Hold on, you've seen adds? Here in the D.M.V. I have yet to see one. Plenty of Lyriq adds though, which is nice.
Yep - I've seen them. I don't think I've seen many recently, which makes sense as there's little to no stock to sell. Previous to the plant shutting down I was seeing them with that annoying, vaguely Asian, guitar chord at the start.
 
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