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After sitting in one last night at the auto show, the interior is not in the same class as the E or S. It was a disappointment in my mind.
I sat in a CT6 yesterday too. I'm disappointed to say that I left with the same interior impression. Hard plastic on the bottom half of the doors?!?!?! My CTS doesn't even have hard plastic.

As for the new E-class pictured above, I really, really hate black mirrors on non-black cars. They're like a throwback to economy cars from the 80s.
 
Cadillac cannot afford to compete for sales lead, their priority now is to establish superior prices, there is a volume penalty for that goal.. but once people who cross shop know Cadillac drivers paid more than they did for their Benz, they will respect a car they could not easily afford
 
I'm not too impressed with the styling but I do like the interior and its technology. Mercedes sets the standard in technology and luxury what the E-Class did just like the S Class.

Mercedes E Class may be ahead of the competition in technology and luxury. Sales have proven that and we all know it is going to outsell everyone but it still comes at a disadvantage against cars with the fun to drive nature like the CTS, XF, GS and Ghibli and appeal factor as well. The CTS is still the lightest car in its class and the decedent model (CT5?) will be even lighter and be a lot better package overall that it is now. I suspect the CTS will get several updates for '17 as well.
 
I'm not too impressed with the styling but I do like the interior and its technology. Mercedes sets the standard in technology and luxury what the E-Class did just like the S Class.

Mercedes E Class may be ahead of the competition in technology and luxury. Sales have proven that and we all know it is going to outsell everyone but it still comes at a disadvantage against cars with the fun to drive nature like the CTS, XF, GS and Ghibli and appeal factor as well. The CTS is still the lightest car in its class and the decedent model (CT5?) will be even lighter and be a lot better package overall that it is now. I suspect the CTS will get several updates for '17 as well.
What is luxury? Changing neon interior lights like a Camaro?

Most of the Technology lead from Mercedes is gimmicks, real technological leads, are something like the BMW carbon construction technologies or Cadillac's new chassis construction innovation, or the bolt , i3 or volte innovation in non rare earth metals motors that are more powerful and more efficient.

Mercedes has zero meaningful real technological leads.
 
What is luxury? Changing neon interior lights like a Camaro?

Most of the Technology lead from Mercedes is gimmicks, real technological leads, are something like the BMW carbon construction technologies or Cadillac's new chassis construction innovation, or the bolt , i3 or volte innovation in non rare earth metals motors that are more powerful and more efficient.

Mercedes has zero meaningful real technological leads.
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Mercedes has been hugely innovative. This vehicle's semi-autonomous tech alone speaks to that.
 
What is luxury? Changing neon interior lights like a Camaro?

Most of the Technology lead from Mercedes is gimmicks, real technological leads, are something like the BMW carbon construction technologies or Cadillac's new chassis construction innovation, or the bolt , i3 or volte innovation in non rare earth metals motors that are more powerful and more efficient.

Mercedes has zero meaningful real technological leads.
You somewhat paraphrase of what I just said about Cadillac's advance structure which is the standard for the competition since it is the lightest and one of the stiffest in its class, however, you can not ignore the fact that Mercedes has very impressive technical innovations with its new generation E class.

I am not referring neon interior lights, you mentioned it. I did not.
 
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Mercedes has been hugely innovative. This vehicle's semi-autonomous tech alone speaks to that.
Some of its technology like its advance headlight system and self park with remote key are not cleared thru government regulations yet. But I like these to be cleared so other luxury models introduce them or something similar in the near future.
 
Some of its technology like its advance headlight system and self park with remote key are not cleared thru government regulations yet. But I like these to be cleared so other luxury models introduce them or something similar in the near future.
But whether not it's allowed in a certain country doesn't negate such innovation.
 
You somewhat paraphrase of what I just said about Cadillac's advance structure which is the standard for the competition since it is the lightest and one of the stiffest in its class, however, you can not ignore the fact that Mercedes has very impressive technical innovations with its new generation E class.

I am not referring neon interior lights, you mentioned it. I did not.
What innovations? Frankly, there is nothing in it that others do not have.
 
Really? The CT6 looks pretty good in pictures -- which never happens with Cadillac.
Why was it a disappointment?
Typical old GM stuff. Disjointed/inelegant design, mismatch of good + bad materials, switchgear that looks cheap/like it came from the parts bin. The Mercedes looks like everything was planned out and executed to a high quality - whether you like the design or not. Again, theses were just quick first impressions.
 
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The CT6 is not an E-Class nor an S-Class competitor. It is more of a tweener car.
I don't get why GM keeps cranking out vehicles in bas-turd tweener sizes
 
^ Because so many keyboard quarterbacks have been demanding (in all caps) that "Cadillac be Cadillac and stop following the Germans".
Now that's its happening, just watch them rip out their checkbooks… :/
 
If I recall, there're numerous interior lighting color options.
64 of them to be exact.

After sitting in one last night at the auto show, the interior is not in the same class as the E or S. It was a disappointment in my mind.
I sat in a CT6 yesterday too. I'm disappointed to say that I left with the same interior impression. Hard plastic on the bottom half of the doors?!?!?! My CTS doesn't even have hard plastic.
Hmmm... sounds a lot like a certain member's thoughts of it from when he sat in it last July...

Typical old GM stuff. Disjointed/inelegant design, mismatch of good + bad materials, switchgear that looks cheap/like it came from the parts bin. The Mercedes looks like everything was planned out and executed to a high quality - whether you like the design or not. Again, theses were just quick first impressions.
That sounds about right.

What trim level were you in?
 
Think the C, E and S Classes have unappealing/bland sheetmetal and that the interiors (while using upmarket materials) are a bit too gawdy in design, but the new E Class will be another big success for MB.

MB is doing what the majority of the American luxury buyer is looking for (comfort - of which passenger room plays a big part, and luxury, including amenities galore).

For those MB buyers looking for performance and an upgrade in handling - there's the AMG version (where the AMGs haven't exactly been the best handling, but having amps of power), but for the vast majority of the rest, MB is offering what they are looking for in a luxury sedan.

The previous regime at Cadillac forget that and was chasing the handling/performance crown at the expense of what most luxury buyers want.
 
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