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Why do manufactureres insist on making anything that is attached to being green so damn blobby ugly plain.
Because 'green' cars that look normal (Accord/Malibu/Camry hybrids, for example) don't sell well because they don't look different. Research has shown that most environmentalists who purchase these cars want the world to know they are driving a 'green car.'
 
That was my initial thought. There is no way on Earth, Nissan is making a profit with the Leaf being sold at a $32k price point. Absolutely, positively, not possible. The battery in that car has to be at least $15k.
A normal car the size of a Leaf costs $15k or less. So the Leaf minus the battery should cost even less (no engine etc.). So if the battery is $15k, the whole Leaf should cost around $25 to $30k at most. Seems profitable to me. Of course, that doesn't include development costs, but any per-unit margin is great at the launch of an all-new electric.
 
Anything that has a 100 mile range would be fine for me. We already have two cars anyway so this thing would be great for 95% of our driving.

BTW: the 'special' charger is a 220V quick charger, this car will also accept 110V for a slower charge.
 
The more I think about this car, the more, I think that the best selling accessory for it will be a Honda generator mounted on to a trailer.
 
After all this time you still think Volt is a Hybrid drive system?
Why?:confused:
Countless times, over and over, with hundreds of posts on "how the Volotec system works" you still don't get it?
No, I get it. It's an electric motor with a gasoline generator to recharge the batteries, while the electric motor powers the car. It's still a hybrid though...there's still two motors, two fuel sources. Try to convince me otherwise.

I am not criticizing the Volt. The thing is awesome, but to me, it's a newer, more advanced, better hybrid.
 
Wonder how it is going to work out on mileage range for the Left Coasters inching along the Santa Monica Freeway for over an hour to go 10 miles. For you electrical experts, what would the draw down be on battery charge in that kind of situation?
 
But I have to ask what does a gay clown look like? :lmao:
Glenn Beck.
I'd have to say Barry Sotero. Otherwise known as Obama.

No, I get it. It's an electric motor with a gasoline generator to recharge the batteries, while the electric motor powers the car. It's still a hybrid though...there's still two motors, two fuel sources. Try to convince me otherwise.
But the two fuel sources are not mandatory. Just electricity. A person could theoretically own the Volt for years and never put a drop of gas in it. It is NOT a hybrid. It is an EV with an onboard generator. If the generator was wind powered, would you still want to call it a hybrid? The gas part is optional for the consumer. Same thing if you strapped a generator to the top of the Leaf. Would that suddenly make the Leaf a hybrid?
 
I'd have to say Barry Sotero. Otherwise known as Obama.



But the two fuel sources are not mandatory. Just electricity. A person could theoretically own the Volt for years and never put a drop of gas in it. It is NOT a hybrid. It is an EV with an onboard generator. If the generator was wind powered, would you still want to call it a hybrid? The gas part is optional for the consumer. Same thing if you strapped a generator to the top of the Leaf. Would that suddenly make the Leaf a hybrid?
Definitely.

The Prius, which has become the public's idea of what a hybrid is, is a parallel (two separate power paths through two separate drive systems) gas-electric hybrid. The Volt is a series (two separate, but in line power paths, through one drive system) gas-electric hybrid, even though it is not always running as such. But in addition, the Volt is also a dedicated, full time, electric drive vehicle, which the Leaf also is, but the Prius is not.
 
I'd have to say Barry Sotero. Otherwise known as Obama.



But the two fuel sources are not mandatory. Just electricity. A person could theoretically own the Volt for years and never put a drop of gas in it. It is NOT a hybrid. It is an EV with an onboard generator. If the generator was wind powered, would you still want to call it a hybrid? The gas part is optional for the consumer. Same thing if you strapped a generator to the top of the Leaf. Would that suddenly make the Leaf a hybrid?


You are wrong there buddy. The Volt engine has to come on occasionally for maintenance. Stale gas is bad.
 
100 miles is too short. Way too short... needs at least 240 bare minimum. Until they can find a way to quick charge this in less than 2 minutes, I rather have 600 miles (enough to drive the whole day, and charge it up while sleeping).

I like Nissan, but this makes me go... eh...
 
Here's the thing...something like this obviously works as a commuter car. But who the hell will put up 33,000 for a commuter car?

Obviously not that many since the gov't is willing to subsidize the price to the tune of 23% of the purchase :eek:
IF ( big IF ) the person lives in Calif and qualifies for the tax credits then the net cost is about $23000 +/- Out the Door. Anybody mention Corolla, Cruze, Civic competitor? No Gas....ever.

But yes you don't want to end up more than 40 mi away from home until the infrastructure is built to recharge these ( think Marriott, Hilton, Motel 6 and some large companies with their own power sources ).
 
100 miles is too short. Way too short... needs at least 240 bare minimum. Until they can find a way to quick charge this in less than 2 minutes, I rather have 600 miles (enough to drive the whole day, and charge it up while sleeping).

I like Nissan, but this makes me go... eh...

There are markets for everything. I don’t hear people complain about the Segway (25miles) limitation. For lots of people, 100 miles is perfect for them. This EV car is not for you or me, but plenty other people out there will get one.
 
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