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Excellent writeup! Very detailed and well written! I also have to agree with your views, overall it's just an awful product and an embarrassing entry from Chrysler. Maybe once that epic Dodge depreciation hits, it will be worth a look.

I also wonder WTH they were thinking with those awful ugly circular cheap interior door handles, it's like they didn't even bother to try, that or they have no good designers.
 
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Sorry for bumping this, just wanted to thank you all for the comments.
 
We had a brief stint in a 2010 Avenger R/T. At least that trim keeps it more taut, and the V-6 sounds nice. Liked how the 6-speed cracks off tightly spaced shifts.

Otherwise, just no. And that's just it. It wasn't awful for a rental, but to buy? No no no ...

And yes that interior is truly horrendous.
 
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We had a brief stint in a 2010 Avenger R/T. At least that trim keeps it more taut, and the V-6 sounds nice. Liked how the 6-speed cracks off tightly spaced shifts.

Otherwise, just no. And that's just it. It wasn't awful for a rental, but to buy? No no no ...

And yes that interior is truly horrendous.
Never driven a V-6 Avenger, but I would imagine the 6-speed/3.5 combo transforms the car into an entirely different animal.

At least the R/T looks better than the homely SXT.
 
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Lipstick on a pig. ;)

The styling works infinitely better than the Charger. What's really a shame is looking at a Stratus R/T and then an Avenger R/T in terms of styling. lulz
So wait, you think the Avenger looks better than the Charger? I would think it's the other way around...
 
Actually, I kind of like the Avenger's styling. But, once I got inside, I felt like I was in a stretch Aveo.
 
Never really liked the Avenger styling wise the exterior is actually pretty decent with dodge stratusish cues in the back but the interior and the horrible base engines are where the avenger suffers. If chrysler can work on those two items and tweak the exterior a bit the avenger will be a great small car but until then if one really has to buy an Avenger it's either R/T or nothing
 
You know, looking at your pictures, in that base rental trim in beige with a body-color grill I actually kind of like it. Not half bad looking (I'm talking about the exterior).

I would like to drive it myself, but considering how underwhelmed I was with the Caliber I doubt this would be much better.
 
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You know, looking at your pictures, in that base rental trim in beige with a body-color grill I actually kind of like it. Not half bad looking (I'm talking about the exterior).

I would like to drive it myself, but considering how underwhelmed I was with the Caliber I doubt this would be much better.
I'm glad you like it in that trim level. Styling is subjective and though I'm not really enthusiastic about it, the Avenger's controversial looks were not a big deal with me. Of all the comments pertaining to the Avenger's styling, I think I agree the most with SmartAssSabr's assessment, that is to say the Avenger definitely looks better in bright, non-metallic colors. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that part of the problem with the Avenger is that it appears as if the design language was conceived with the higher trim levels in mind, and that the lower-spec Avengers with staid colors and plastic hubcaps exist as a mere afterthought.

Though I obviously wasn't impressed by the car, I do feel that somewhere deep within the debacle that is the Avenger there exists the potential for a competitive automobile. The fundamentals are there; the car is built on a solid, modern platform, and ride and handling aren't bad. What the car really needs is a better quality interior and a more efficient drivetrain.
 
I am seeing more an more young males driving Avengers with big chrome rims. I literally laugh out loud too.

I can picture the salesman telling the young buyer that it's just like a Charger, only cheaper.....and it gets better gas miliage. Or, it's just like a Chrysler 300, only sportier. "I'll take it" lol
 
I'm glad you like it in that trim level. Styling is subjective and though I'm not really enthusiastic about it, the Avenger's controversial looks were not a big deal with me. Of all the comments pertaining to the Avenger's styling, I think I agree the most with SmartAssSabr's assessment, that is to say the Avenger definitely looks better in bright, non-metallic colors. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that part of the problem with the Avenger is that it appears as if the design language was conceived with the higher trim levels in mind, and that the lower-spec Avengers with staid colors and plastic hubcaps exist as a mere afterthought.

Though I obviously wasn't impressed by the car, I do feel that somewhere deep within the debacle that is the Avenger there exists the potential for a competitive automobile. The fundamentals are there; the car is built on a solid, modern platform, and ride and handling aren't bad. What the car really needs is a better quality interior and a more efficient drivetrain.
Considering the cost difference between the trim levels is marginal, maybe they should put all the R/T gingerbread and suspension on the base cars at the base price, and have only a selection of engines and cloth/leather seats...



 
It's a fantastic car anyone who is in the position of buying one should do so!...A smart looking affordable car is the Avenger and if you do the Storm Trooper mods on it U'll be the talk of the town!.
 
By the way all, I'm sorry for the lousy low-res pictures.
Great writeup, tbirderic! Had me folling in the footwells. :D

Wait until youse guys see my new Chrysler Racing Beige Avengah! Arrrrrr, wit dose 22s it will be sooooooooo kewlllllllll!! :hyper:
 
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I am seeing more an more young males driving Avengers with big chrome rims. I literally laugh out loud too.
I haven't witnessed this phenomenon yet, you're going to have to post some pics! :D

Great writeup, tbirderic! Had me folling in the footwells. :D

Wait until youse guys see my new Chrysler Racing Beige Avengah! Arrrrrr, wit dose 22s it will be sooooooooo kewlllllllll!! :hyper:
Many thanks, Neanderthal.
 
A good friend of mine stopped by my house with a slightly used 2010 black R/T with chromes and two tone leather seats for a test drive. It wasn't as bad of a car as some make it sound. The V6 and 6 speed gave effortless acceleration and the transmission shifted very well. The front seats were comfortable enough and the passenger seat folds flat like the Malibus used to which is a useful feature. I also noticed overhead assist grips, one touch driver and passenger up and down windows vs Malibus driver's side only down, rear seat center armrest and real dual rear seat map pockets. The Malibu in contrast ditched the fold flat passenger seat, doesn't come with any overhead assist grips; lacks a center rear seat armrest and the map pockets on the seatbacks are nets surrounded in hard cheap plastic. I didn't care for some of the interior dash plastics and door panal plastic but it wasn't life or death bad and everything did seem to line up properly. The ride and handling we both agreed were very competant if not class leading. This car lacks the Malibus expensive feeling quietness and solidity but it isn't too far behind and the changes make in the 2009's seem to have addressed most of the unwanted noise and suspension harshness. The dash needs work as stated. Here is where the Bu shines. The guage cluster looks like a 10K more expensive car in the Malibu! Incidentally my friend was also looking at a 2010 Malibu LTZ 3.6 with 12k miles. The Avenger had 16K. The difference in price was 4K with the Avenger obviously the lower priced of the two. The Malibu would have been nearly 45 more a month so he chose the Avenger. That was early this Summer. He has logged nearly 20K miles on it so far and has not had one single problem with it. So for $15995 I think he got a pretty good deal and he still seems to like the car.
 
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