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2005 Lexus LS430 interior review.

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#1 ·
Well today I hade to get my serpantine belt replaced at the dealership. While I was waiting for the belt to be replaced I thought that I would look around at the Toyota's and the Lexus models.

I looked at many model but the LS430 was appealing to me. I did not get to drive it so it will only be a interior review.

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This picture may be a earlier model but it look about the same.


First and for most. The Lexus LS430 is a true luxury car. Everything about this car says luxury. The model I sat it was a 2005 ultra model with a MSRP of near $100,000.

Upon entry, the first thing I noticed was how good the materials in the vehicle felt. There was not a single piece of cheap plastic anywhere. Everything I touched was of a soft material that felt like rubber or of a very high leather feel. The interior design is not edgy or inspiring but is very traditional to a luxury car. A Cadillac Deville or Seville owner should have no problem enjoying the luxury of this vehicle.

The seats were big and plush yet firm and had two seperate lumber adjustments. The bottom cushion also could be extended or retracted depending of whether you are short or tall and this can be done without moving the seats on the tracks. All the window and lock switches were back illuminated. The wood interior felt of high quality and there was enough of it to satisfy any luxury owner.

For the back seat passenger. You truly are treated like a king. There is a power rear sunshade, side door sunshades, power rear door closers, reclining seats, heated and cooled seats with massage, a rear climated control system and a rear lighted vanity mirrors for both passengers. One other touch that I really liked was that you are able to move forward the front passenger seat if you are sitting behind it in the rear thanks to a second set of controls. This car is not just a car you drive, but a car to be driven in.



The Lexus LS430's interior is so good that it is very hard to find fault in the interior. A couple things I did not like were that all those special features I mentioned about the rear are all useless if you put three people in the back because all the controls are hidden in the center armrests. This is also good becasue all the controls are hidden in the armrest when not in use.

I did not like the front cupholders as they did not seem all that good. Another thing is that the power seatbelt height controls do not go high enough as I would of liked. One final thing centers on where they put the driver temperature control. The button next to the navigation system (as shown in the picture) on the left side is not easy to access.

Overall this is one very luxurious interior. Everything felt of very high quality.
I also really liked the rear fridge.


On a final note. what really stands out is how silent the car is when the doors are shut. It really felt like a vacum inside. The doors shut like a vault. It is something I have never heard and none of other Lexus models came close to that experience. For most of the time I spent in the car I have the door open, I could hear background noise such as foot steps, people talking, the PA, etc. When I close the door there was absolutely no noise from the lobby. None of the other Lexus models filtered out all the noise.

Overall a very well made interior.
 
#2 ·
Great review! The LS430's interior design is getting old, but it is still of very high quality. I look forward to sitting in one at the NAIAS on the 22nd. This should be the benchmark for the new DTS.

Did you test out the Mark Levinson stereo?
 
#4 · (Edited)
pagemaster said:
I did back in the summer when I actually turned one on at a car show. I didn't get to really hear it back then but that would be something I would like to try.
Last year at the NAIAS I was really looking forward to testing out a Mark Levinson setup in a Lexus. I sat in an LX470, but you could only turn the volume up so high (very little in fact), they had some type of limiter on it for the show. I didn't really experience it because the volume was set so low.
 
#7 ·
You know something? I have yet to sit in new car and feel comfortable with its ergonomics---all those little buttons and switches. I had the most awful experience driving my dad'd lexus LS430 one night in the rain. The stupid electroluminescent dash went kaput, and I had the ****************edest time finding the wiper switch. And changing the climate controls, or anthing else for that matter, is NOT intuitive. My dad's old '79 Buick Limited had better controls.
 
#8 ·
giagastormer said:
Did you test out the Mark Levinson stereo?

The mark levison system, like all factory systems, is good, but not great.

here's where the real car audio refinefinement is being made:

Lexicon LOGIC7‚ Featured in 2002 BMW 7 Series

— BMW debuts new 7 Series luxury sedan with 7.1 surround sound technology in the tracking room of New York’s legendary Hit Factory Recording Studios! —


CONSUMER ELECTRONICS SHOW, LAS VEGAS, NV, January 8, 2002 — On September 25th, 2001, journalists from leading Professional Audio and Consumer Audio publications were treated to the launch of the new 2002 BMW 7 Series featuring Lexicon LOGIC7‚. BMW of North America, Harman International and Lexicon chose New York’s celebrated Hit Factory Recording Studios as the venue of choice and moved a new 2002 745i to the 6th floor recording studio to be part of the presentation. The Lexicon LOGIC7 audio system will be part of the Premium Sound Package option in the new BMW 745i and long-wheelbase 745Li.

The event featured a live recording session with reknowned guitarist Nils Lofgren (known for his work with Bruce Springsteen and Neil Young) as well as a demonstration in the studio of surround sound in 5.1 and 7.1. The finale came when editors walked out of the control room into the tracking room and were given a chance to sit in a brand new 2002 BMW 745i and listen to the same program material in the BMW’s LOGIC7 surround system.

Lexicon’s LOGIC7 technology converts standard two-channel music and film audio into convincing five-channel or seven-channel surround (depending on system capabilities). It also allows producers of five-channel recordings to release their work in a compatible two-channel form, while maintaining full surround when played through a LOGIC7 decoder or Dolby®
Pro Logic decoder.
 
#9 ·
63RivRules said:
The mark levison system, like all factory systems, is good, but not great.

here's where the real car audio refinefinement is being made:

Lexicon LOGIC7‚ Featured in 2002 BMW 7 Series

— BMW debuts new 7 Series luxury sedan with 7.1 surround sound technology in the tracking room of New York’s legendary Hit Factory Recording Studios! —


CONSUMER ELECTRONICS SHOW, LAS VEGAS, NV, January 8, 2002 — On September 25th, 2001, journalists from leading Professional Audio and Consumer Audio publications were treated to the launch of the new 2002 BMW 7 Series featuring Lexicon LOGIC7‚. BMW of North America, Harman International and Lexicon chose New York’s celebrated Hit Factory Recording Studios as the venue of choice and moved a new 2002 745i to the 6th floor recording studio to be part of the presentation. The Lexicon LOGIC7 audio system will be part of the Premium Sound Package option in the new BMW 745i and long-wheelbase 745Li.

The event featured a live recording session with reknowned guitarist Nils Lofgren (known for his work with Bruce Springsteen and Neil Young) as well as a demonstration in the studio of surround sound in 5.1 and 7.1. The finale came when editors walked out of the control room into the tracking room and were given a chance to sit in a brand new 2002 BMW 745i and listen to the same program material in the BMW’s LOGIC7 surround system.

Lexicon’s LOGIC7 technology converts standard two-channel music and film audio into convincing five-channel or seven-channel surround (depending on system capabilities). It also allows producers of five-channel recordings to release their work in a compatible two-channel form, while maintaining full surround when played through a LOGIC7 decoder or Dolby®
Pro Logic decoder.

That's good and all but Lexus won't be sleeping. Introducing the next-generation of Mark Levinson.

02/01/2005 Torrance, CA

Mark Levinson, premium audio system provider for Lexus automobiles and SUVs, introduces its "next generation" entertainment system to the U.S. in the all new 2006 Lexus GS luxury sport sedan. This groundbreaking system introduces Lexus owners to a discrete 5.1 home theatre entertainment experience optimized for playback of music, music videos, and movies in the luxurious, mobile environment provided by the 2006 Lexus GS.

"The Mark Levinson audio systems in Lexus vehicles are highly regarded," said Denny Clements, Lexus group vice president and general manager. "And this cutting-edge surround system blends perfectly with our intentions to make the new GS best in every category."

This first Mark Levinson Premium Surround System, designed specifically for the 2006 Lexus GS, is a high performance home theatre on wheels. A product of over three years of engineering and development, the system improves on every aspect of the original Mark Levinson Premium Sound System introduced in 2001. This 14 speaker, 330 watt* system features:
· Discrete 5.1 multi-channel playback via a 7.1 speaker topology
· Mark Levinson Surround (MLS) audio software optimizes discrete 5.1 playback for Multiseat™ listening and provides a surround sound experience for stereo source material.
· Full digital transmission from the digital source to the discrete output topology power amplifiers
· Proprietary metal cone midrange and tweeter transducers
· 5.1 Dolby Digital and DTS decoding of DVD Video, DVD Audio and DVD-R discs

"Our latest generation of Mark Levinson systems for Lexus will advance the scope of sonic performance and features available yet remain true to our original mission to recreate the emotional response evoked by the original musical, and now cinematic, event," said Phil Muzio, Director Acoustic Systems at Mark Levinson. "I'm proud to be unveiling the first domestic Mark Levinson Premium Surround System in this stunning 2006 GS."

Mark Levinson Premium Surround Systems, featuring discrete 5.1 surround sound, were launched in the 2004 Toyota Crown Royale Saloon and 2004.5 Crown Majesta in the Japan market. A glimpse of this new Mark Levinson system, while under development, was provided in the Lexus IS 430 Project Car.

*All channels driven, 20-20kHz, with no more than 0.1% Total Harmonic Distortion.

Features/Functions:
· 14 Speakers- four 25mm tweeters, five 65mm midranges, four 16cm woofers, one 25cm subwoofer.

· 11 Channels, 330 watts- The all new Mark Levinson Processor/Amplifier in the GS will produce a total power output of 330 watts, all channels driven, 20-20kHz @ less than 0.1% Total Harmonic Distortion.

· Discrete 5.1 Surround Sound reproduced by a 7.1 Channel Surround Sound Speaker Architecture- separate side and surround channels provide a greater sense of envelopment and depth for front and rear seat passengers.

· Mark Levinson Surround (MLS) Audio Software- optimizes discrete 5.1 playback for Multiseat™ listening in a 7.1 channel speaker architecture and provides a surround sound experience for stereo source material such as CD and FM. MLS is the only expression of surround sound which has been designed and optimized specifically for the challenges and characteristics exhibited by an automotive passenger cabin.

· All Digital Signal Path from the Disc to the Mark Levinson Discrete Topology Power Amplifiers- Fragile audio signals are often transmitted from the front to the back of the car in an analog format. The analog medium is subject to sonic degradation from noise and magnetic interference within the car as well as numerous conversions processes between analog and digital. To avoid noise pickup and unnecessary and potentially degrading conversion steps, the ML Premium Surround System transmits digital via SPDIF (Sony Philips Digital Interface Format), and 24 bit word lengths are supported.

· Media Compatibility- CD, CD-R, DTS 5.1 CD, DVD Video, DVD Audio, and DVD-R discs.

· Format Compatibility- 2 channel Stereo (analog and PCM), 2 channel Surround Sound, Dolby Digital 5.1, DTS 5.1 (from DTS 5.1 CD, DVD Video and DVD Audio discs)

· Proprietary Metal Cone Midrange and Tweeter Transducers- Metal cone geometries offer greater cone rigidity and lower mass. Neodymium magnet/motor structures provide higher magnetic flux levels in a smaller and lighter transducer package. The sonic benefits of both technologies are:
o Lower distortion-Higher Resolution
o Greater Sound Pressure Levels-Natural Dynamics
o Extended Frequency Response-Harmonic Richness and Musicality

· 25cm/10" Subwoofer with a Cast Basket and 100 watts of Power- A cast basket subwoofer has been designed and utilized for the first time in a Mark Levinson/Lexus system. This highly rigid, yet lightweight structure is the optimal environment for the high-energy low frequency reproduction required of a subwoofer. A cast basket improves performance due to its:
o Non resonant properties reducing distortion-Higher Resolution
o Thermally conductive aluminum casting reducing heat buildup in the motor assembly for increased power handling capacity-Natural Dynamics
o This all new, GS subwoofer is driven by 100 watts of Mark Levinson low distortion power.

· Source Dependent Tone Controls- your favorite tone settings retained for individual sources

· Source Dependent MLS- your favorite MLS setting retained for individual sources

· ASL- volume and tone adjustment for on-the-road system optimization, asymmetrical for surround sound sources

· ML3 Hardware highlights- switching power supply, 24 bit ADC and DAC, triple DSP farm, discrete output stages

· The GS Voicing- over 1000 man hours of laboratory and on road voicing of the Mark Levinson Premium Surround System for the particular acoustic characteristics of the GS passenger cabin.

Credit: Lexus USA
 
#10 · (Edited)
I have resisted surround sound forever because I believe a proper stereo presentation already has (or should have) width, depth, height and a clear center image. In this case, more (speakers), is not better.

So, with some trepidation, I made may foray into multichannel sound. It's my belief that the pre-amp/ processor stage in any system is one of the keys to great sound. I heard just horrendous sound from those all-in-one receivers that offer everything and give the listener nothing.

I bought on Lex Dc-1 2.1 DD/THX/logic7, and loved it. Because I liked it so much, I bought another one--with the 4.0 software DD/dts/THX EX/logic7.

I've experimented a lot because I'm anal like that. A few things became clear:
--Speaker placement is critical
--Speakers should be the same (with the same drivers or same type of speakers from the same manufacturer)
--Center channel can cause big sonic problems. Although they're great for nailing movie dialog, they tend to mess up the soundstaging of the mains. Along the lines of my stereo philosophy, I tend to think the mains should be left alone for music.
--Subwoofer--I've tried them, and don't like them. Although many proclaim subs to be omnidirectional, I can clearly localize <100Hz sub-bass. Let me give you an example: say a producer wants a double bass drum sharply panned, L&R. If I'm in a sound field like my 3-channel ultra-high-end car audio, I can hear this effect. Subwoofer processing is tricky--setting up the right low-pass frequency filter, slope, level, time-alignment, parametric EQ (OK, go easy on this one)--so that the bass is centered in front of the sound field and integrated with the mains.



Just my thoughts.

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AA Pro32 DTI with adaptive dither
AA DDEV3.0 HDCD D/A
AAPowerstations 2,3,3Ultra,4
Audio magic I2S digital bus cable
Audio Alchemy Clearstream powered, selectable 75-ohm co-ax/110-ohm AES/EBU cable.
monster Pro 1000 AES/EBU cable
MonsterM100i interconnect
(2) ADS 300is fullrange speakers
(2) Soundstream reference 10R subs
Soundtream Ref 300 amp
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JL Audio 500/1 mono amp
monster Powerline 2+ sub speaker wire
audio quest CV-4 full-range speaker wire
ADS 642is signal processor
ADS AC-502 constant- bass controller
Nakamichi Ec-304 electronic crossover
Nak CD/Tuner1
Nak MF-51 CD changer (with SPDIF digital out to Audio alchemy digital processors)
Nak TD-1200 "dragon-for the-car" tape deck
etc.
 
#11 ·
I recall sitting in one at the auto show last year. Yes, the bits are all of nice quality. But there isn't a noticeably, especially nice bit of anything in sight. And the design is blah, blah, blah. Fat, in a word. And there are little switches everywhere. There's not a surprise or a delight in the whole thing.

Ugly, if nicely executed.

Left me dead cold. "Yours," as my friend the trader says.

Now, take a look at an Audi . . . . Flashes of super nice material here and there. Places where stuff fits so beautifully you can't help but admire it. And sleek, harmonious design.
 
#12 ·
mgescuro said:
It's the only thing I like about the Lexuses... the interior material quality. The headliner is suede. The leather is stunning. the wood is amazing. But that's it.
No. The wood's good. But not stunning. The leather is up to class standards, but not stunning. It's all very competent and thorougly above reproach. But special, it isn't.