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Maybe you didnt see it but what would you do Al?
I have not driven an AWD Lax or CTS, so its tough to say which I would take. Id like to have two equally equiped cars back to back to get a good idea on how they feel. So far, all three CTS's Ive had were RWD with sport packages, and one of course in V trim.
CTS's balance would still play out over the LaX. Equipment and comfort wise? Lax would win that, as well as price. An AWD 3.6 SIDI car would easy reach over 50k, 10k more then a loaded LaX CXS AWD. Would that be enough to sell me on a CTS? Id love to find out.
To be honest....Im totaly mixed on it. I love how the CTS drives, really I do. But the Lacrosse's luxury and comforting interior is head and shoulders above the CTS.
 
I can easily see an eAssist LaCrosse replacing the G8 down the road. Of course by then I hope to have the option of a thoroughly modern Epsilon II Chevy Impala with eAssist and AWD to consider as well.
I didn't know the new Impala would have eAssist, although that would make sense. I do know someone who's seen official photos of the new Impala, and he said it is "stunning". :)
 
I didn't know the new Impala would have eAssist, although that would make sense. I do know someone who's seen official photos of the new Impala, and he said it is "stunning". :)
I am guessing that by 2015 or 2016 almost all new large cars will have some form of start/stop technology to help meet CAFE.
 
Good review, I didn't know that HUD and the other goodies are available as optional for 2.4L trims.

23 mpg fuel economy is not bad with the remote start and this time of the year. I get 19 mpg with my old 3.8L and 80% city driving schedule. I LOVE MY REMOTE STARTER.

Will eAssist be standard for 2012? I could live with that and HUD only, I don't car about leather seats. Pity about the trunk, I liked Regal's trunk better. If GM goes eAssist for base Regal I think I will have a winner.:D
 
>>"I did spend about 25 mins trying to get the car unstuck from the snow drift.<<
Would not this (and other stated conditions) completely negate the legitimacy of the stated MPG figures?
Yes!!! Running it/gunning it for 25 minutes to get out of a snow drift definitely would hurt fuel economy. Add in e10 fuel and it makes it even less relevant.

Mileage always goes down in the winter in the cold climate regions. We have e10 as well (mandatory), so here in MN we get a 10+% drop in the winter. Get stuck in heavy snow/snowbanks and warming up the car before driving all will get significantly less mileage.

Overall a a very good write up and excellent car. Love the CTS, but it could definitely use a few features/updates. The Caddy's should always be at the top of the charts in term of features + performance.
 
The only thing the LaCrosse CX/CXL should have on the exterior is the cut through bumper exhaust with the bright surround moldings. Standard and available only on CXS, it would add panache to the whole line.
Good writeup but I'm surprised this was missed in the cons as this is a curious omission for what is supposed to be a flagship. It gives the back end of the car a cheap something is missing appearance that everybody I have shown this car mentions. I also didn't like the interior storage on this car which was very lacking. Once the glovebox is used up and the narrow side map pockets there is little to no space left to store anything save a tiny little compartment in the rear section of the storage console with room enough for a couple packs of cigarettes or a cell phone. There needs to be space in the forward part of the center console for everyday items and the rear compartment needs to be far larger. The center console is huge and oversized so why no storage space?

I would hope the fuel economy would get better on this car as 22.5 is about what I am acheiving on my 2008 3900 V6 Impala in Winter driving conditions using the remote start often. While I found the 2.4 lacking on a base late run 2010 LaCrosse I test drove, especially on the highway, I do agree with your writeup that it would be adequate for many buyers not interested in the $1370 optional V6. The optional red paint on the tested car is very nice looking and gives this car a much better look compared to white or silver. I wish Chevy would use Buick radios as the one in my Impala is lacking compared to the ones used in the Buicks with the Harmon Kardon unit in a 2010 Lucerne really blowing me away with it's sound. The over 38K price of this car would make it a very tough pill for me to swallow considering I can buy a pretty loaded Genesis 3.8 for less with discounts and things like LED taillights and HIDS are just fads that I'm not interested in. I really think this car works better as a V6 in CXL and CXS trim with moderate options. The ones that seem to be selling in my area are the mid level CXL's with V6 and a few options for around 32K or so.
 
To be honest....Im totaly mixed on it. I love how the CTS drives, really I do. But the Lacrosse's luxury and comforting interior is head and shoulders above the CTS.
We cross shopped the LaX and CTS when my mom bought last year.
She would've bought a LaX 2.4 were it for GM's stupid incentive programs, which cost GM a sale.

She bought a stripped (and I mean stripped, it even has a sunroof delete) Sunset Blue '08 CTS.
Beautiful car... '08 was the only year for that color. It's unique... the only one I've seen.

I love both cars. They're two different flavors of luxury.

Only issue with the CTS was with the tires. It was a Florida car, we live in the snow belt and it had Michilin Pilot MXM4's on it.
Car and Driver called them "passable for year-round use in unpredictable cold-weather climates".

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!!! Not on a RWD car!
C&D obviously doesn't have a clue when reviewing tires... as soon as there was any significant snow she got stuck.
Maybe that's "passable" for C&D, but for my 77 year old mom that ain't gonna fly, ever.

We got rid of those crap tires and the CTS has Blizzak WS70's now.
Since she only drives 3K miles a year I won't even bother changing 'em... she drives sedately (understatement there).
I'll take this CTS off her hands when she's done with it in a dozen years... it'll have all of 50K miles on it.
 
There is nothing else to say but that this is now GM’s finest car, put together with pride, and offering any consumer an array of luxury features and amenities. It was only a few years ago that Buick was on its death-bed, begging for attention. Buick has produced a fantastic car inside and out, with everything people come to expect from a luxury brand. As Buick moves forward with the Lacrosse, its new eAssist system as well as a possible GS trim, it can only help make this car better. The eAssist system will make a lot of the optional equipment, standard and add some additional equipment such as full color driver information screen as well as the main screen in the center stack. It is only depressing that GM’s true flag ship brand, Cadillac, does not offer this level of quality and refinement. Buick needs to keep this up, and make sure that the Lacrosse remains to be one of the top luxury sedans in the market, as the Koreans and Japanese as well as its American competitors will not stop to let Buick pass them by. As Buick continues to improve, it can only force Cadillac to move faster to keep ahead of the pace set by this one prestigious brand. When that happens, Buick will have its hand in yet another
First off screw Cadillac since they can't seem to get their act together and screw the GMI mentality that Cadillac is the 'flagship' brand of GM. Right now it IS Buick! Buick has been on an awesome upward momentum since the launch of the Enclave-a vehicle launched in 2008 and it's sales are CONTINUING TO CLIMB to this date-now that say's something..

anyway-Buick is back and I just hope that GM allows Buick to expand itself PAST Cadillac with a halo vehicle...
 
US car manufacturers have been slow to bring out stop/start because it doesn't benefit them from a CAFE standpoint. This real advancement in fuel economy isn't reflected in higher CAFE numbers and which shows that CAFE is an unnecessary distortion of fuel economy laws that waste time, money and engineering resources.
It is estimated that >70% of cars will soon have stop/start, and that cars that keep running while stopped will become a rarity.
 
It is far easier to "fix" Buick by bringing out cars that are quiet, smooth and have a level of luxury to them. Cadillac needs to be more than that, to include prestige, performance, image and all-out luxury. For that roll, Cadillac has been badly wounded and will take quite a while to recover, perhaps another generation of each model it produces.
Chevy can be everything for everybody, Buick can be upscale from that, but Cadillac needs to be uncompromised luxury that is aspirational ...... and THAT will take time, money and effort.
 
I would hope the fuel economy would get better on this car as 22.5 is about what I am acheiving on my 2008 3900 V6 Impala in Winter driving conditions using the remote start often.
I find this quite unbelievable for mpg numbers considering the engine size and winter season temperatures (at least here). Maybe 50/50 highway/city driving but his review was more test drive and city ride.

Last week I drove 350 miles in a day through snow and sleet on 401 highway with moderate to no traffic at 35-80 mph and got only 26 mpg with my Buick Allure 3.8L.
 
Discussion starter · #59 ·
Oops, sorry for the misfire. I assume you mean the quarter mile; there IS Englishtown Raceway near here. :)
CanonAdam is GMI Northeast's official photographer! These shots were not taken by him, but when he snaps shots, you guys will see his name. You guys have seen his work before if you look back at my other reviews.


As for the MPG, I did state in my review that I almost didnt post it because of the snow. The 22.5mpg after resetting it once I got it back on the road, but it was not a true reading from start to finish as I usually do.
 
CanonAdam is GMI Northeast's official photographer! These shots were not taken by him, but when he snaps shots, you guys will see his name. You guys have seen his work before if you look back at my other reviews.


As for the MPG, I did state in my review that I almost didnt post it because of the snow. The 22.5mpg after resetting it once I got it back on the road, but it was not a true reading from start to finish as I usually do.
Normally I'd say that 22.5MPG is pretty awful for a newer vehicle, especially one with a 4cyl engine. But from the sounds of it, this was pretty much a worst-case scenario here for fuel economy. If this car can get that kind of economy in the worst conditions where it's still reasonable to actually drive, that's definitely a positive.
 
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