$ 5,131.54 X 84 = $ 431,049.36

Praise the Lord: NO DOWN PAYMENT!! Who will step to the plate?




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About that $89,428 dealer markup...

These are the same dealers who file lawsuits agaist Tesla and Scout for direct-to-customer sales, and then complain that car dealers are the most loathed businesses in America.

 

Remember - independent dealerships protect us. I've been told this is a fact!

 

Unfortunately someone will pay that!

 

Sadly yes - and it is still a bargain compared to the Euro competition.

 

Does that amount include the sales acquisition fee, or is it included?

 

You can live in your car right?

 

Only if it's the right vehicle.

You can get the above combo for the Corvette money with a lot of cash left over.

 

If someone needs to finance that much they have no business buying one.

 

My sentiments precisely. If your vehicle is the price of a home, you should be in a financial position to pay cash for it.

 

The price of the Celestiq makes a little more sense now that I see the MSRP of this. Still don't understand why Cadillac can't have a version. After LFA, Lexus is yet again playing in this field with the upcoming LFR.

 

I think the idea of a Cadillac version is cool. But at the same time I don't think it is necessary for a couple of reasons.

The first is Mercedes and their recent statement that they are pulling back from all those sporty high-end vehicles that are killing their margins. I translate that to Mercedes is taking a financial bath on those very cool vehicles as the market isn't as big as they thought.

My memory is the original LFA didn't sell that well, I think 5 years after production ended there were new ones still available for sale. And didn't Audi discontinue their mid-engine car? Even BMW doesn't really play in this field very much - I'm getting at that this might look better on paper than in reality.

While I think the BW's are a great addition to Cadillac, is something like a mid-engine vehicle be where they should focus their resources? For a low volume vehicle, I think their money will be better spent on something like a Sollei. Granted a Sollei will be a lot more $$ and GM can certainly focus on multiple projects, but I think a Sollei will do a lot more for Cadillac and a better fit for the brand.

And then there is the comparison factor - GM literally threw the kitchen sink at the ZR1, I'm thinking there isn't a huge amount GM can do to make a Cadillac version better. And does GM want to make a better version than the Corvette, the companies sacred cow? Whatever Cadillac does, even making it a more comfortable and slightly less performance orientated will still have a ton of comparisons to the presumably cheaper Corvette.

 

Let me go back and edit that above lol its all over the place but im working.

 

No worries, work gets in the way of my GMI time too

 

I think the idea of a Cadillac version is cool. But at the same time I don't think it is necessary for a couple of reasons.

The first is Mercedes and their recent statement that they are pulling back from all those sporty high-end vehicles that are killing their margins. I translate that to Mercedes is taking a financial bath on those very cool vehicles as the market isn't as big as they thought.

My memory is the original LFA didn't sell that well, I think 5 years after production ended there were new ones still available for sale. And didn't Audi discontinue their mid-engine car? Even BMW doesn't really play in this field very much - I'm getting at that this might look better on paper than in reality.

While I think the BW's are a great addition to Cadillac, is something like a mid-engine vehicle be where they should focus their resources? For a low volume vehicle, I think their money will be better spent on something like a Sollei. Granted a Sollei will be a lot more $$ and GM can certainly focus on multiple projects, but I think a Sollei will do a lot more for Cadillac and a better fit for the brand.

And then there is the comparison factor - GM literally threw the kitchen sink at the ZR1, I'm thinking there isn't a huge amount GM can do to make a Cadillac version better. And does GM want to make a better version than the Corvette, the companies sacred cow? Whatever Cadillac does, even making it a more comfortable and slightly less performance orientated will still have a ton of comparisons to the presumably cheaper Corvette.

The problem is, once you get over $150k or so, most people will just buy a Porche, Lambo, or Ferrari - they are the "Big 3" of the sports car world and nobody is close. Merc keeps trying and just can't do it, they should just stick to AMG version of existing models. Everybody else is really just a marketing exercise to show they can do it "trickles down" to their bread and butter models (LFA, GTR, Z8, AMG GT, etc....) Audi R8 actually did pretty well for its 1st Gen....until Gen 2 when they raised prices too close to its Lambo cousin (Huaracan), so everybody just bought that.

You ought to make an appointment with a tax accountant.

Financial Advisor. Most people in this group have their cash tied up in investments and/or businesses, so its more about the opportunity cost of take that money out of an investment (and its return) vs the cost they are paying. BTW, only highly leveraged poseurs are paying 9% notes from this segment.

 

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Financial Advisor. Most people in this group have their cash tied up in investments and/or businesses, so its more about the opportunity cost of take that money out of an investment (and its return) vs the cost they are paying. BTW, only highly leveraged poseurs are paying 9% notes from this segment.

Wow! Talk about swinging at a ball in the dirt. That is not how rich people benefit from the purchase of expensive assets.