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http://seekingalpha.com/article/84114-why-gm-should-embrace-bankruptcy?source=yahoo

Tom Krisher has a good overview of the travails at General Motors, where the stock is trading at a 50-year low, battered by speculation that the company might end up declaring bankruptcy.

Bankruptcy actually seems like a very good idea to me, since it might well be the only way for the company to implement the kind of radical reorganization which is necessary for any possibility of future profitability.

For instance: GM has eight - count 'em - brands, including marques like Pontiac and Buick which were instrumental in giving American cars a bad name, and which today get absolutely nobody excited. Heidi Moore wonders whether they might be for sale, and I'm sure that GM would love to sell them if it could, but the problem is that their value is almost certainly both large and negative. As her colleague Jeff McCracken explains:


The cost of buying out a dealer, given state franchise laws, is prohibitive. In many ways, the legacy costs of too many under-fed or under-invested dealers are as financially painful to Detroit’s auto makers as the legacy costs of its UAW contracts.
Chrysler several years ago paid handsomely to kill off the Plymouth brand. In a widely publicized move, GM pulled the plug on the vaunted Oldsmobile brand in 2000. GM spent $1 billion alone in 2001 to buy out Olds dealers and wind down some plants. Litigation with hundreds of Olds auto dealers drug dragged on for years and the final tally is estimated at close to $2 billion.
Ford has weighed killing its Mercury brand for years as well, but as a recently retired Ford executive once said: "That could cost close to $2 billion, or you could keep losing a couple hundred million a year. Given how your bonus is paid for this year’s performance, it’s easier to kick the can to the next person."


In other words, the dealers hold all the cards, right now, and are preventing GM from slimming down. But if the company were to declare bankruptcy, a lot of the leverage currently held by the dealers would evaporate; they would simply join the long queue of creditors.
 

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Bankruptcy is not the cure-all solution for what ails GM. It will not take care of the "problems" of brands, product portfolio, excess manufacturing capacity, labor unions, costs, and whatever else you want to point to. It will not help GM's bottom line, long term viability, or image.

Making the best damn cars on the road however, that is the answer.
 
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If GM files for bankruptcy no one will want to buy their cars, and they'll be in a far worse position than if they had to buy out the dealers.
I agree. The perception hit would be huge, "Who would want to be a car from a bankrupt company?". But on the flip side, considering the state of their perception currently, and over time the consumer would become aware that they are in better shape by getting rid of the health care costs (the govt would pick that up), etc. It may not be a real negative over the long term (+20 years), in the short term though it will be a real negative, and something to over come.

I am sure the folks in the Ren Cen are doing all they can to avoid it. And I also hope it can be avoided. On the positive, GM's product mix is the strongest in their history and perceptions are changing. GM is in a dip right now in large part because of the economy. That will turn around.
 

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Stupid. Bankruptcy is not an option and should never be. It all looks good on paper but reality is, sales will drop off a cliff.
Sales have been sliding down a hill at an ever accelerating rate for years and are off the cliff already.

GM has mismanaged themselves to the point where C11 is not only inevitable, but necessary if they want to save the company at all.
 

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Sales have been sliding down a hill at an ever accelerating rate for years and are off the cliff already.

GM has mismanaged themselves to the point where C11 is not only inevitable, but necessary if they want to save the company at all.
But who's going to buy cars from a bankrupt company?

GM may be bleeding heavily right now, but I would call bankruptcy the stake through the heart. Game over.
 

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Let's see ..........

Didn't Chrysler go bankrupt?

How about Nissan?........yes ;)

While Chrysler has new problems, bankruptcy is not always the end.
 

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If it happens, it won't be because somebody *chooses* it as much as the conditions will *dictate* it.

For what it's worth, I think it will happen, it if managed right it can be a very positive thing. It'll be like an "Intervention", if you've ever watched that program on A&E network...
 

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As long as it is a plan to reorganize and pitched as a "rebirth" then I am for it.

If it is just some last ditch, final moments before death effort with the same yahoos at the wheel after Bankruptcy with their neverending quest to push SUVs and Trucks while paying lip service to small, affordable, fuel efficient cars? Then forget it.

Any bankruptcy needs to be accompanied by a gutting of management at GM, followed by a shiny new business plan that takes the best names of GM (Cadillac, Chevrolet), and dumps all of the excess baggage.

I'd even change the generic-sounding and unexciting name of "General Motors" to something like Greater Momentum that also uses "GM" but has a forward-looking sound to it, like BP uses "Beyond Petroleum" now.
 

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Ugh, i would hate to see GM dump it's pension obligations onto the taxpayer in the form of the pension benefit guarantee corp, and I bet you wouldn't make any friends with the UAW either. They were still quite meddlesome to delphi while they were/are in bankruptcy protection. GM should just keep running the same models of pontiacs, buicks, and gmc's until no one buys the and the dealers all have to shut their doors. Dealer protection laws really prevent a lot of innovation to get the cars to the consumer in a faster and more affordable way. You shouldn't have to lose billions so your bloated dealer network can exist in perpetuity.
 

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The real problem with bankruptcy and automakers is warranty and product support. Because a new car purchase is a relatively long-term investment, people will be wary of buying a vehicle from a bankrupt automaker. For starters, warranties may not be honored. Also important, if the company doesn't emerge from bankruptcy, resale values would drop bc replacement parts may not be available in the future.
 

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The real problem with bankruptcy and automakers is warranty and product support. Because a new car purchase is a relatively long-term investment, people will be wary of buying a vehicle from a bankrupt automaker. For starters, warranties may not be honored. Also important, if the company doesn't emerge from bankruptcy, resale values would drop bc replacement parts may not be available in the future.
If GM disappeared tomorrow, don't tell me there wouldn't be 100 companies lined up to buy their tooling and sell the replacement parts for many many years to come, that is a lucrative market. If you get get parts for gm's and ford's and more obscure cars from the 50's and 60's pretty readily, newer cars still on the road in great numbers would be even more so.
 

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If GM disappeared tomorrow, don't tell me there wouldn't be 100 companies lined up to buy their tooling and sell the replacement parts for many many years to come, that is a lucrative market. If you get get parts for gm's and ford's and more obscure cars from the 50's and 60's pretty readily, newer cars still on the road in great numbers would be even more so.
True . . . for cars that are produced in "great numbers." For cars that are only sold for a year or two prior to GM going out of business or niche cars, I highly doubt that's the case. Plus, you may also run into a problem getting obscure parts that rarely need to be replaced for even popular cars. Quite frankly, I wouldn't be very confident about parts availability for my G8 if GM went out of business anytime soon.

In any event, this still wouldn't solve warranty problems. If GM were to file bankruptcy it would seriously impact sales.
 
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