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Where are Self-Driving Cars Legal?

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Self-driving cars are getting closer to reality every day.

Self-driving technology is currently being hotly debated over just how safe it really is and right now, States across America are trying to determine whether or not to make autonomous vehicles legal.

The Center for Internet and Society has been keeping track of which states are allowing self-driving cars to be tested on public roadways and so far, California, Nevada, Florida and Michigan all have legislation that allow these cars to test on public roads.

Though it may be legal in those states, each one has its own definitions of what’s allowed. For example, California requires a driver with a valid driver’s license in the front seat of the autonomous vehicle while Michigan allows driverless cars for testing purposes only.

There are many other states where legislation has failed including Texas, Arizona, Oklahoma, Minnesota and Georgia. States that are allowing the technology include North Dakota and New York, while nearly half the country has yet to mull over a choice.
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What's considered self driving? Is radar cruise control considered self driving? The new S class? Or just like the Google car?
Why those four states? Well, let's see if we can figure it out.

Michigan allows self driving cars for testing only. The place is the home of the big three, and testing such vehicles would pretty much require it. And no, their dedicated proving grounds could never be "real" enough for the testing needed.

Florida just figures it couldn't be worse than your average 80 year old driver, so go ahead.

Nevada is the home of legalized gambling, so that's a fit.

California.....they just have a knee jerk yes vote on anything PERCEIVED to be "high tech".

I see that DC has also approve driverless cars. They were probably hoping for driverless limos. And if a couple of them (packed with a Senator or a lobbyist or two) happen to veer off into the Potomac, so much the better.
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What's considered self driving? Is radar cruise control considered self driving? The new S class? Or just like the Google car?
In California, self-driving cars are permitted. In California, Google, Mercedes, and Audi obtained the first permits. Not sure how many others have permits.
Someone recently spotted a vehicle licensed to Apple with roof mounted camera systems. There are too many cameras pointed in different directions to be a mapping vehicle, so people assumed it's a self-driving car. But Apple doesn't have a license, but they could be working with a company who does.

Tesla may have a license too because they have their AutoPilot system.
California.....they just have a knee jerk yes vote on anything PERCEIVED to be "high tech".

Silicon Valley is the global leader in high technology. Most automakers have their high tech research centers in Silicon Valley. And Google is a leader in this space.
So it only makes sense for it to be legal in CA.
NJ and NY should be next, with infrastructure improvements that should follow to help alleviate congestion.
la-la land? Is that one of the 57 states?

Why those four states? Well, let's see if we can figure it out.

Michigan allows self driving cars for testing only. The place is the home of the big three, and testing such vehicles would pretty much require it. And no, their dedicated proving grounds could never be "real" enough for the testing needed.

Florida just figures it couldn't be worse than your average 80 year old driver, so go ahead.

Nevada is the home of legalized gambling, so that's a fit.

California.....they just have a knee jerk yes vote on anything PERCEIVED to be "high tech".

I see that DC has also approve driverless cars. They were probably hoping for driverless limos. And if a couple of them (packed with a Senator or a lobbyist or two) happen to veer off into the Potomac, so much the better.
I like your answers. Here's another: LAWYER LOBBY. :dro:
In California, self-driving cars are permitted. In California, Google, Mercedes, and Audi obtained the first permits. Not sure how many others have permits.
Someone recently spotted a vehicle licensed to Apple with roof mounted camera systems. There are too many cameras pointed in different directions to be a mapping vehicle, so people assumed it's a self-driving car. But Apple doesn't have a license, but they could be working with a company who does.

Tesla may have a license too because they have their AutoPilot system.
So an individual would need a permit to engage the Autopilot in their Model S?
So an individual would need a permit to engage the Autopilot in their Model S?
I don't know for sure.

But this initial permit is $150 for the first car and $50 for any car after. It also requires $5M in insurance too.
AutoPilot is about the equivalent of what's on the S-Class today.
Add Montana to this list.

NJ and NY should be next, with infrastructure improvements that should follow to help alleviate congestion.
Step 1: Put up billboards.
Step 2: Make yuk-it-up joke about "shovel ready jobs weren't so shovel-ready."
Step 3: Demand, oh, 500 billion to do that infrastructure thing. Again.
The EU is working on allowing "self-driving" in an attempt to bring down the number of car crashes. For the foreseeable future, the driver will remain responsible if there is a system failure of any kind. If not, the legal hassle will be huge. Google's goal to use fully robotized vehicles is considered not in synch with what the EU wants. Safe to say that the German car industry practically dictates what autonomous drive is supposed to mean.
The EU is working on allowing "self-driving" in an attempt to bring down the number of car crashes. For the foreseeable future, the driver will remain responsible if there is a system failure of any kind. If not, the legal hassle will be huge. Google's goal to use fully robotized vehicles is considered not in synch with what the EU wants. Safe to say that the German car industry practically dictates what autonomous drive is supposed to mean.
Who :confused: in their right mind (operative phrase) would assume personal responsibility and liability for a computer crash? Just sayin'.

While it's hypothetically possible that autobots could reduce incidences of wrecks, just wait for ONE hundred-car pileup triggered by an autobot, especially if there are deaths and grevious injuries, and this whole gig will be seriously re-examined.

See the thread "Self-Driving Cars 101" for one event that turned out OK but could've produced far more chaos.
Who :confused: in their right mind (operative phrase) would assume personal responsibility and liability for a computer crash? Just sayin'.
Lawyers will say you do as the operator/owner the same if you crash NOW because of a mechanical failure/defect
UK government said they want Britain to be the antonymous car capital of the world.
You won't need a UK driving licence to own one, so anybody can now own a car.

You will be able to send your 10 year daughter of to school on her own in one, and it will bring her home from school without you having to do the school run anymore.

They wont have to have a steering wheel in fitted to the car.

Daily Mail (Saturday)
Women are expected to benefit most - almost a third don't have a licence
Disabled, elderly and children are also likely to gain from driverless cars
Children could be put in 'robocar' at home and sent to school without adult
Motorists will not need a driving licence to use driverless cars, it emerged yesterday – as ministers prepared to allow the first trials on British roads.

Women are expected to benefit the most because almost a third do not have a licence, compared with just one in seven men.

Others likely to gain include the disabled, the elderly and even children, who could be put in a so-called robocar at home and sent to school without an adult at the wheel.

Last night, a Whitehall insider noted: ‘Driverless technology could free up 31 per cent of women who don’t drive.

The report puts the Government on course to fulfil its ambition to make Britain the world centre for self-driving vehicles – and draw in lucrative foreign research investment, saying: ‘The UK is well placed to lead the development of driverless technology.’

In the early stages of the trials there are likely to be safeguards such as a qualified driver on board to override the self-drive system in case of a safety issue. Some vehicles will have a steering wheel or brake pedals. But as the research develops they will be removed and the vehicles will be fully autonomous.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-ll-able-school-run-own.html#ixzz3RGYhuRnK
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la-la land? Is that one of the 57 states?



I like your answers. Here's another: LAWYER LOBBY. :dro:
If some of these cars are using radar, how safe will the radar emission's be? Will there be my car just sterilised me claims, or l cycle but radars in cars gave me testicular cancer, or they are killing off the wildlife in California whatever. French are only just waking up to sooty diesels after all these years.

Big brother in the UK want to muscle in on self driving cars will they end up being government owned run and assembled and legislated in?

Still it will have its advantages you wont need to take a car test or driving licence in places like the UK once the steering wheel and brakes disappear from the cabin, which will bring in loads of extra new car sales from mums that don't drive. You will be able to send kids off to school on there own in the car, and a weekends you be able to go out and have a few beers with out an expensive taxi ride, which will mean better social cohesion, and radar emissions will keep the population explosion under control how green is that?

BBC News (Today)
Driverless car review launched by UK government
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