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Opel is Holden's only hope. My concern is that 'only' 1/3 of the lineup will be Opel based, that means 2/3 will be Korean.

I like it, but the 1.0 would struggle to find buyers in Australia. I assume there are other engines available ?
 

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Opel is Holden's only hope. My concern is that 'only' 1/3 of the lineup will be Opel based, that means 2/3 will be Korean.

I like it, but the 1.0 would struggle to find buyers in Australia. I assume there are other engines available ?
Possibly - but it'll suit buyers that want a 114bhp / 122lbft car of that size.

Just for the record - Power 114bhp at 5000-6000rpm; Torque 122lb ft at 1800-4500rpm; that's a big spread or torque.
 

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Opel is Holden's only hope. My concern is that 'only' 1/3 of the lineup will be Opel based, that means 2/3 will be Korean.

I like it, but the 1.0 would struggle to find buyers in Australia. I assume there are other engines available ?
Yes. The 1.4T/150hp for the OPC-Line, and the 1.6T/~200hp for the OPC.

 

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Rupert which one of the three are you that posted on Auto Express, You sound like "Beagle", the whole AE item seems more like a praise GM USA post and how well GM is doing rather than something on the Corsa, it only mentions the Corsa in the odd sentence. I prefer the new Corsa smily face to fish face Fiesta, but the Corsa shape is same as the one it replaces with smaller downsized more fuel efficient engines, if the engines get any smaller your NSU Quickly's step-through 1-pots will be make making a comeback soon in a Corsa.

Mmmm what Europeans want LOL, whats the biggest discount American Mr Hertz and Mr Avis can get from a mug in Europe is more like it.

UK Corsa sales were down -14% in September, as the UK market rose +5.6% on average, not good to read real-world news, it's not Sunshine news Rupert.

EU Corsa sales
2007 402,092
2008 360,781
2009 347,857
2010 319,986
2011 314,111
2012 264,076
2013 240,005

2016 120,000? Once the excellent value for money Vauxhall Viva gets up to speed?

New Corsa car shape looks exactly the same as the one it replaces, l expect same will happen a small blip rise in sales followed by a continued fall decline in EU sales.

Only one positive thing l like about the new Corsa is the new Mazda smile on the front end added by Mark Adams that might just clinch the sales as apposed to a gaping fish faced mouth on the Fiesta. Yes it's got engine downsizes to 3-pot 1.0L turbo like the market has. Not sure that it has what it takes to life sales to 500,000+ sales it had at the turn of the millennium.

Personally l think the Vauxhall Viva will cannibalise the Corsa sales, Corsa sales will drop by another 50% once it arrives, value for money is what is selling cars in austerity hit Europe when employee wage rise are low and utility energy bills are high killing all disposable income. Only saving grace is Mr Hertz & Avis won't be to bothered that it arrives much the same shaped car as the one it replaces, as long as GM continues give them a massive discounts on huge batches of the new Corsa.


Dacia have sold 60% more cars this year compared to same period in 2013 in the UK, Dacia, however, is one of the few to buck this trend with 91.8 per cent of its customers this year being private individuals. Vauxhall Viva will much better tuned for sales growth in the UK market when it arrives Rupert.

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Opel is Holden's only hope. My concern is that 'only' 1/3 of the lineup will be Opel based, that means 2/3 will be Korean.

I like it, but the 1.0 would struggle to find buyers in Australia. I assume there are other engines available ?
Even if Opel stuck a v8 in a torque steering FWD compromise Corsa, still no Aussie will ever want one. Opel packed up left with their head between the tail in 2013 in their last failed attempt at conquering Australia with Opels last time around, whats changed in the last year absolutely nothing.

The new Corsa is exactly the same shape as the one it replaces. Only plus is Opel have grafted a nice smiley Mazda a nice face onto the front of the same shaped Corsa as the last generation model. Aussies No1 Commodore & No2 Falcon forever car, and UTE buyers will shift into Ranger, Hilux & Colorado pick-up trucks, l am pretty sure Aussies are not in touch with a rather more effeminate 1.0L Opel Corsa side just yet.
 

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Not sure I agree. The Corsa based Barina and the Astra and even the Vectra were all well respected and good selling cars up until Holden went Korean. The issues with Opel were more to do with model choices, pricing and so-so marketing rather than issues with the cars.
 

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Opel is Holden's only hope. My concern is that 'only' 1/3 of the lineup will be Opel based, that means 2/3 will be Korean.

I like it, but the 1.0 would struggle to find buyers in Australia. I assume there are other engines available ?
Shame this one looks so bad, why is it that GM has got such rubbish designs out of Korea, KIA and Hyundai are looking better an better, the rubbish we get from GM not so much.
 

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Not sure I agree. The Corsa based Barina and the Astra and even the Vectra were all well respected and good selling cars up until Holden went Korean. The issues with Opel were more to do with model choices, pricing and so-so marketing rather than issues with the cars.
Not sure about that, especially the Vectra it was looked here as overpriced and under-reliable.
 
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