[63GrandSport001]

Its called leverage,and the Union has not had much of it lately,so in their minds use it while you can.

For one we are a long way from matching currency costs with the nations where the factories are being moved to.

Another factor is that in a lot of these nations the standard of living is very low and in fact they practice slave labor. Slave labor drives the cost of labor down even lower to the point where the only way the US will be able to match labor costs of those nations we would have to pay our factory workers $2.50 to $5.00 an hour with no benefits and no safety standards at all.

The only realistic way to put America workers on level ground with those from poor nations is to tax the goods produced in those nations to level the playing field.

 

[EldoFan]

The only realistic way to put America workers on level ground with those from poor nations is to tax the goods produced in those nations to level the playing field.

Good luck with that.......

 

[YupYupYup]

I am so sick of hearing all the anti-Wal-Mart rhetoric. Pure, simplified union propaganda. The only reasons you hear all the b.s. about Wal-Mart is a) they have beat the unions at every step, b) they are successful (and successfully American, oh my God!) and c) easy target because they are the most successful store in the world. What they fail to mention are the hundreds of millions they provide in tax revenue every year to the U.S. governement, funding social security, health care, etc., for the masses....They employee a huge number of people, many that are considered unemployable and would otherwise be on government assistance (thus sucking your tax dollars)...They have also provided an incredible amount of innovation in business strategy in regards to logistics, inventory management, and manufacturing...Innovations that have helped thousands of companies, thus lowering fuel useage, time of delivery/ convenience, and on and on.

Obviously there is more to the story behind the anti-Wal-Mart rhetoric.

 

[63GrandSport001]

Good luck with that.......

I also doubt that this will happen as much of the imported goods are inter company trades which makes up over 60% of the worlds trade. (americans buying foreign goods is not nearly as big of a problem as its often made out to be).

Taxing those goods would take away the advantages that many American companies have gained by out sourcing labor.

 

[63GrandSport001]

I am so sick of hearing all the anti-Wal-Mart rhetoric. Pure, simplified union propaganda. The only reasons you hear all the b.s. about Wal-Mart is a) they have beat the unions at every step, b) they are successful (and successfully American, oh my God!) and c) easy target because they are the most successful store in the world. What they fail to mention are the hundreds of millions they provide in tax revenue every year to the U.S. governement, funding social security, health care, etc., for the masses....They employee a huge number of people, many that are considered unemployable and would otherwise be on government assistance (thus sucking your tax dollars)...They have also provided an incredible amount of innovation in business strategy in regards to logistics, inventory management, and manufacturing...Innovations that have helped thousands of companies, thus lowering fuel useage, time of delivery/ convenience, and on and on.

Obviously there is more to the story behind the anti-Wal-Mart rhetoric.

Wal-Mart has very ethically qestionable business and labor practices (sometimes illegal as well) which has benefited them.

Not only that but you have to take into account what the impact having Wal-Mart move into cities has had over the local economy along with other super stores. They in the long run remove more jobs then they add to an area however its nice to be able to at 3AM go to a Wal-Mart and buy what I need when I need it.

 

[HoosierRon]

Thats also why you see record high gas prices, a strain on natural resources - stone, steel, cement, etc. Keep sending our jobs overseas America and keep buying all that cheap Chinese crap! Your only shooting yourself in the foot. Why in the world would we want to boost the chinese economy even further??? I'd rather know my neighbor down the street has a good job at an American factory making jeans for $50 a pair and can send his kids to college, etc. than what we have now. Buying jeans for $12.99 and seeing that same neighbor who now works at walmart is practically starving.

Is walmart's stock price worth the death of a nation?

You, sir, are a serf of nationalism.

 

[Carguy]

Are the GLOBAL WARMING people working with the ASIANS who are in cahoots with the UNIONS who work with WASHINGTON on the PLANED DEATH of the U.S. Auto Industry?----------------I wonder sometimes!

 

[jcgable]

You, sir, are a serf of nationalism.

You sir, are absolutely right. I would love to tell some of the stories my aunt (A retired Wal-Mart Employee) told me about the awful things the company did. I haven't shopped there in 10 years because of it. Whats more important is neither has she since she retired.

Oh, by the way: I just checked out the link. I think it is incredibly important to support American Jobs and to be patriotic. The moment that a citizen stops being critical of our government's actions is the moment they are unpatriotic in my opinion. The reason our government works is because it is always up for evaluation. Those who judge blindly and are willing to say,"there are some things I shouldn't know" are possibly the worst citizens possible.

 

[mike's 01ws6]

I'm getting sick of all these posts of the UAW threatening a strike.

I'm almost to the point of saying %$#% it, move the plant to Mexico or Canada. %$#% the Union.

EVERYONE is hurting. I know a lot of people who were working in management before, but are working jobs at the local convenience store now. Take your $18 an hour, healthcare, and other benefits and be happy. Most of the country isn't that fortunate.

Because you have the power to make them move the plant? It looks like you are the one thats upset that you cannot get a decent paying job, maybe you and your friends in management are not as "smart" as you think you are, have fun making slurpees.

 

[HoosierRon]

You sir, are absolutely right. I would love to tell some of the stories my aunt (A retired Wal-Mart Employee) told me about the awful things the company did. I haven't shopped there in 10 years because of it. Whats more important is neither has she since she retired.

Oh, by the way: I just checked out the link. I think it is incredibly important to support American Jobs and to be patriotic. The moment that a citizen stops being critical of our government's actions is the moment they are unpatriotic in my opinion. The reason our government works is because it is always up for evaluation. Those who judge blindly and are willing to say,"there are some things I shouldn't know" are possibly the worst citizens possible.

China’s entry into the World Trade Organization (WTO) was supposed to improve the U.S. trade deficit with China and create good jobs in the United States. But those promises have gone unfulfilled: the total U.S. trade deficit with China reached $235 billion in 2006. Between 2001 and 2006, this growing deficit eliminated 1.8 million U.S. jobs (Scott 2007). The world’s biggest retailer, U.S.-based Wal-Mart was responsible for $27 billion in U.S. imports from China in 2006 and 11% of the growth of the total U.S. trade deficit with China between 2001 and 2006. Wal-Mart’s trade deficit with China alone eliminated nearly 200,000 U.S. jobs in this period.

The manufacturing sector and its workers were hardest hit by the growth of Wal-Mart’s imports. Wal-Mart’s increased trade deficit with China eliminated 133,000 manufacturing jobs, 68% of those jobs lost from Wal-Mart’s imports. Jobs in the manufacturing sector pay higher wages and provide better benefits than most other industries, especially for workers with less than a college education.

China has achieved its rapidly growing trade surpluses by purchasing more than $1 trillion in U.S. Treasury bills and other government securities over the past few years in order to artificially and illegally reduce the value of its currency and thereby lower the cost of its exports to the United States and other countries. It has also repressed the labor rights of its workers and suppressed their wages, making its products artificially cheap and further subsidizing its exports. Wal-Mart has aided China’s abuse of labor rights and its violations of internally recognized norms of fair trade behavior by providing a vast and growing conduit for the distribution of artificially cheap and subsidized Chinese exports to the United States.

source

 

[HoosierRon]

You sir, are absolutely right. I would love to tell some of the stories my aunt (A retired Wal-Mart Employee) told me about the awful things the company did. I haven't shopped there in 10 years because of it. Whats more important is neither has she since she retired.

Oh, by the way: I just checked out the link. I think it is incredibly important to support American Jobs and to be patriotic. The moment that a citizen stops being critical of our government's actions is the moment they are unpatriotic in my opinion. The reason our government works is because it is always up for evaluation. Those who judge blindly and are willing to say,"there are some things I shouldn't know" are possibly the worst citizens possible.

Don't forget my signature links.

 

[63GrandSport001]

I seriously think that the US should instead of promote free trade they should promote fair trade.

The cost of free trade is our middle class, I guess if we are ok with loosing that then lets continue the way we have been going.

 

[GTOken]

Regardless of what the UAW does GM is going to get rid of its US factories as soon as they can unless the Government does something to give an incentive of manufacturing in the US(subsidize) or remove the advantage of manufacturing abroad (tariffs).

Everyone would be better served by the Federal Government staying the h3ll out of these issues.

 

[redfox]

Why pick on Wal-Mart where do you think Target-Kmart-Myer's and others get there items. They get them the same place as Walmart dose. If the UAW strikes it's just another nail in there coffin.:yup:

 

[SUPERBADD75]

somebody please wake me when the UAW finally loses and goes under. i'm so sick of this crap. once again they make the "genius" decision to shut down the plant that makes vehicles that people are actually buying. i know they want to be noticed, but crippling the company that they depent on to pay them is just stupid.

attention UAW: if the U.S. auto industry goes under because of your endless leeching, you won't get any pay, any benefits, or any sympathy.

 

[Shawn Wuan]

I am so sick of hearing all the anti-Wal-Mart rhetoric. Pure, simplified union propaganda. The only reasons you hear all the b.s. about Wal-Mart is a) they have beat the unions at every step, b) they are successful (and successfully American, oh my God!) and c) easy target because they are the most successful store in the world. What they fail to mention are the hundreds of millions they provide in tax revenue every year to the U.S. governement, funding social security, health care, etc., for the masses....They employee a huge number of people, many that are considered unemployable and would otherwise be on government assistance (thus sucking your tax dollars)...They have also provided an incredible amount of innovation in business strategy in regards to logistics, inventory management, and manufacturing...Innovations that have helped thousands of companies, thus lowering fuel useage, time of delivery/ convenience, and on and on.

Obviously there is more to the story behind the anti-Wal-Mart rhetoric.

Yep and you are 100% right! Just think, they did all off of the hard work of poor people that should make more than they do.

 

[Shawn Wuan]

Because you have the power to make them move the plant? It looks like you are the one thats upset that you cannot get a decent paying job, maybe you and your friends in management are not as "smart" as you think you are, have fun making slurpees, idiot.

I couldn't have said it better myself:yup::yup::yup:

 

[Tekwarrior]

You, sir, are a serf of nationalism.

HoosierRon You're a breath of fresh air on this forum. Your insightful (also inciteful) wit cuts through the ... vapors. You could be a reincarnation of Will Rogers or Mark Twain (no religious agenda intended). Too many floccinaucinihilipilificators on this site.

 

[Shawn Wuan]

I think alot of people on this site should do there history on the UAW and the big 3 before they start all of the bashing. The UAW helped set the standard for alot of the safty rules in todays work places. Thats just 1 thing, I could go on and on

 

[63GrandSport001]

Everyone would be better served by the Federal Government staying the h3ll out of these issues.

The Government has stayed out of these situations and a a result we are entering a depression...........