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I am so sick of hearing all the anti-Wal-Mart rhetoric. Pure, simplified union propaganda. The only reasons you hear all the b.s. about Wal-Mart is a) they have beat the unions at every step, b) they are successful (and successfully American, oh my God!) and c) easy target because they are the most successful store in the world. What they fail to mention are the hundreds of millions they provide in tax revenue every year to the U.S. governement, funding social security, health care, etc., for the masses....They employee a huge number of people, many that are considered unemployable and would otherwise be on government assistance (thus sucking your tax dollars)...They have also provided an incredible amount of innovation in business strategy in regards to logistics, inventory management, and manufacturing...Innovations that have helped thousands of companies, thus lowering fuel useage, time of delivery/ convenience, and on and on.

Obviously there is more to the story behind the anti-Wal-Mart rhetoric.
 

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Why pick on Wal-Mart where do you think Target-Kmart-Myer's and others get there items. They get them the same place as Walmart dose. If the UAW strikes it's just another nail in there coffin.:yup:
Exactly...The only reason they do not target those stores is because they are not the top of their industries. It is the same protester crowd that targets "evil" Starbucks. Notice a trend here? Only the most successful companies with no unions are targeted as "evil." The other, smaller companies, who have sometimes much worse labor and trade practices, get off free.

To all those that bash Wal-Mart and are pro-union: if you continue scoff at Wal-Mart and anyone who even remotely talks about them in a good light, you are only doing yourself a disservice. Sure, they are not perfect...But then again, neither are those companies who are unionized and not as successful. I have seen hard analyses that also shows positives of companies such as Wal-Mart. If you try to quash/ silence any other opinion but your own, as unions always seem to want to do for their own agenda, then you will just have a backlash. If you haven't noticed, your rhetoric and name-calling hasn't done anything to stop or change the success of the Wal-Mart's, Starbucks', etc. of the world. You just make them more popular, whether they are perfect or not...Maybe it is time you allowed a more balanced debate, with other sources of "facts."

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This is a point lost to many American's today, the fact that unions have done a great deal of good for us all.

It was not the UAW that made any of the bad choices that got GM into the position that it was in today.

It was GM who made the choice not to make products that could compete which allowed Japanese automakers to get a foot hold in America.

Yet its those union workers who have to pay for the bad choices made by GM.
I think you meant to say "did" a great deal of good. Not anymore...One day they started to get politcal and spend all of their members' money on political agendas, not what the worker needed and deserved through their hard-earned union dues. They have thrown all their eggs into one political basket and lost because of it.

To the pro-union, anti-Wal-Marters of the world: Can you accept other opinions and sources of "facts" concerning unions and Wal-Mart in general? I will be the first to say that Wal-Mart is not perfect...But I never hear union people say this about their union, or unionized companies. They usually just bully and/ or threaten anyone who is not in lock-step with their propaganda or way of thinking. Voting anyone? Forced union dues for support of political candidates that the union member might not support?

Unions need to take a long, hard look at themselves. Sure, there are good people who are union members...Our friends, family, etc. But it is they who are headed downwards...Union membership is spiralling downwards for a good reason..."Evil", non-unionized Wal-Mart and Starbucks are both just geting larger and more successful in the world. Union tactics, such as strike threats, are not working anymore. If they continue to confrontational and threatening, there soon won't be any unions in this world to "work for the little guy." Think about it for a while...
 

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I think alot of people on this site should do there history on the UAW and the big 3 before they start all of the bashing. The UAW helped set the standard for alot of the safty rules in todays work places. Thats just 1 thing, I could go on and on
And I agree with you on this...Problem is we are living in today not yesterday, and we have to think about tomorrow...

This is not personal, Shawn Wuan, because I value your work on this board. But you might want to scoot on over to UnionFacts.org just to get a little more balanced (another viewpoint) perspective on where the unions are today and where they seem to be headed. Not all are bad, but you might want to look up your union to see what is really going on.

Honestly, union membership is at 12% or so and declining fast. It might be in your best interest to listen to others so that you can adjust union strategy to stop the membership/ support bleeding...Otherwise it is only a matter of time and there will be no unions left to talk about.
 

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As far as Wal-Mart goes, please educate yourself on the company before you make such ludicrous statements about how wonderful they are. Start with this congressional committees' findings. http://www.mindfully.org/Industry/2004/Wal-Mart-Labor-Record16feb04.htm

Wal-mart is far worse today than when that committee was published.

See, that is exactly where you are wrong. You just proved my point. Whenever somebody has a different opinion or shows different facts, you shoot them down, steal their newspapapers/ ads showing a different view, or directly threaten them and call them stupid. All I caled for was a free debate...I didn't say they were perfect, just like I said all union members are definitely not bad people. What I said was they are only targeted because they are rich and non-unionized. There are plenty of other worse companies out there that are not brought up because they are unionized or not the top of the game where haters can get attention attacking them. Then again, there are even worse government insitutions who waste our tax dollars all the time. But I guess many don't go after them because they are unionized.

We have seen the hate-filled protests targeted at Wal-Mart many times, but anyone who might show the good points is blasted at at every step. Well, if you haven't noticed all the protests and propaganda have failed to unionize Wal-Mart or stop it from being so successful on a global scale (beats some Japanese or Chinese store owning the world stage, doesn't it). When your message is not working, why beat the same drum?

To the Wal-Mart/ non-unionized company haters, can you name any good points that Wal-Mart does for the country?
 
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