UAW proposes building Caprice at Lansing Plant

All The police officers I've asked say pretty much the same thing, namely that the Municipality bought Fords because there was no GM car available. They don't much like them, but have no choice in the matter. The RCMP have had bad experiences (so the individual cops say, anyway) with the Impala, citing lack of interior space, not as ruggedly built as the RWD, and higher maintenance and down time.

As for the union proposing this, while I'm all in favour of B Bodies being built again, I think that GM manangement would rather have the lead on this, and not the union. The facts are that management closed the assembly line for various reasons, and aren't going to retool for a B Body because the union suggests it. The B is done, and that's very sad. I am surprised that GM would just hand that market to Ford on a sliver platter, though, even if it was 10 years ago.

The B-Body (or some iteration of it) should be brought back if and when a clear business case can be made for it.

Employees of a company should be paid a salary and benefits commensurate with a variety of measureable factors: level of skill, market demand for their work, and the like. In the case of the auto industry, assemblyline workers have the UAW [arguably] representing their collective interests.

GM, now more than ever, appears to rely on the expertise of its assemblyline workers where appropriate. Though it took decades to emulate their counterparts at Toyota, GM now appreciates the wealth of knowledge those on the factory floor possess in terms of how to perform their jobs most effectively. That makes sense. It's not an insult to decline those same workers's input when it comes to making decisions about less germane topics: future product development, asset allocation, and capital expenditure, to name a few.

When people who aren't privy to the facts that make the above decisions logical make demands from a point of ignorance, I'm inclined to ask a similar question: "How dare they?!" It's not under their purview.

My intention is not to sound callous, but I feel presently that the UAW is more likely to be a roadblock on GM's path to success than it is to be a catalyst for positive change.

I sense olfactory hallucinations.

The posts on this thread have been getting dumber and dumber as more people have been adding their own thoughts...


Is anyone posting here even a police officer? Are you criminals? Do you ride in a police car so often that you really care if its a Ford Crown Victoria, Chevrolet Whatever or Dodge Such and such?

WHO GIVES A RATS A$$ WHAT KIND OF CARS THE POLICE DRIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I dont know...what gives....does anyone here really get warm and fuzzy feelings when they see a Chevrolet police car?

This is like debating wether you preffer a Cadillac hearse or a Lincoln hearse, unless you are a funeral director, chances are when you get a chance to ride in the car, you probably wont care!

"CHEVROLET GAVE AWAY THE POLICE CAR MARKET TO FORD"


Good!! Let them keep it, does anyone realise that police car sales, like rental cars and taxi cabs are LOW PROFIT FLEET SALES, so I can see why Chevrolet and GM did not really care about getting out of the market, and even when they were out of the market, they werent, because Chevrolet still continued to offer a Tahoe and Camaro police package and after 2000, and Impala police package too.

I remember that through the 1970's Chrysler used to dominate the police and taxi market with piles like the Monaco, Fury and Grand Fury, why? because they were having touble finding regular customers to buy that junk, and then through the 1980's Chrysler was still a big player in the fleet market with the Diplomat/Grand Fruy R-body cars, but in 1989, Chrysler "GAVE AWAY THE POLICE CAR MARKET" why? Because keeping a car plant open, just to sell cars to police and taxi companies, was not a money making plan.

Think about this....would Ford still sell the Crown Victoria if the police and taxi companies were not buying it? hell no.


"POLICE DEPTS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FWD"

Why? Hasn't the rest of the US and the world learned to live with FWD? This is not exactly fuel cell technology, FWD has been around since the 1930's!!(and before that I think)

I remember Police depts also had a problem with....
Radial tires...
Fuel Injection....
Anti-lock brakes...
Air-bags...
Seat belts...

I am all for the "boys in blue" having a safe dependable car to go out and "protect and serve"...but it seems that automotive development stopped for them sometime around 1965...


I am all for Chevrolet brining back a RWD sedan, and I am for the guys in Lansing keeping their jobs, if the numbers jive for GM, and its a realistic plan, then I am all for a new RWD Chevrolet, but I am not salivating about a new RWD Chevrolet because it will "take police car sales away from Ford" I could care less, police car sales are a by-product of having a car in your line up that can also be used as a police car.