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"Confirmed Covid-19 cases in Texas have been rising by more than 5,000 a day in recent weeks, and the Lone Star State reported 4,288 new cases yesterday, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services. Cases in Tarrant County, where the plant is located, increased by 393."

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Tarrant County include Dallas and Ft. Worth, county has almost 2 million people................
 

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The big issue is that this will still be going through to the election, the worst nightmare.
 

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"Confirmed Covid-19 cases in Texas have been rising by more than 5,000 a day in recent weeks, and the Lone Star State reported 4,288 new cases yesterday, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services. Cases in Tarrant County, where the plant is located, increased by 393."

(Just a little perspective)

Tarrant County include Dallas and Ft. Worth, county has almost 2 million people................
Just a little more perspective.....

Victoria (state In Australia) has new daily cases of double digits and are mainly located in isolated Melbourne suburbs

Melbourne's population is just under 5 million ......

If Some texas counties are getting cases in the thousands with a population of 2 million you guys have a big problem on your hands
 

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What the plant should be talking about is control measures, just like any other job hazard analysis
and work through appropriate control measures, be that masks or down drafts or face shields.
yeah very true

but perhaps they're worried about people not conforming ?

I see 2 extreme types of people/ groups around nowdays


Those who believe Covid is all a hoax and those who are scared to death

I sit In the middle I believe there is a danger and the danger is real however I'm taking measures to ensure I'm as protected as I can be

I don't go out at the moment , only go into town when I need to and avoid large groups of people

The problem is the people who don't try to avoid contact and think the whole thing is a hoax - those types are potentially spreading the virus without their knowledge
 

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The big issue is that this will still be going through to the election, the worst nightmare.
No-worries, as soon as the election is over, it'll be gone ***poof***



Just a little more perspective.....

Victoria (state In Australia) has new daily cases of double digits and are mainly located in isolated Melbourne suburbs

Melbourne's population is just under 5 million ......

If Some texas counties are getting cases in the thousands with a population of 2 million you guys have a big problem on your hands
So your lock-downs and isolation isn't working?

Cases in Tarrant County, where the plant is located, increased by 393
393 cases in DFW area.


What the plant should be talking about is control measures, just like any other job hazard analysis
and work through appropriate control measures, be that masks or down drafts or face shields.
That is exactly how it's been explained and being handled.


yeah very true

but perhaps they're worried about people not conforming ?

I see 2 extreme types of people/ groups around nowdays

Those who believe Covid is all a hoax and those who are scared to death

I sit In the middle I believe there is a danger and the danger is real however I'm taking measures to ensure I'm as protected as I can be

I don't go out at the moment , only go into town when I need to and avoid large groups of people

The problem is the people who don't try to avoid contact and think the whole thing is a hoax - those types are potentially spreading the virus without their knowledge
My thoughts aren't far from yours, but there is a 3rd faction of people, the young, which we've informed with almost 4 months of facts and data.

Young people get sick or don't, but rarely die, so when you open up the bars, you go to the bar!

The key to control is "protecting" in those areas where it is susceptible to spread, or just avoiding those situations, restaurants are pretty-much done-for if you ask me.
 

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"Confirmed Covid-19 cases in Texas have been rising by more than 5,000 a day in recent weeks, and the Lone Star State reported 4,288 new cases yesterday, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services. Cases in Tarrant County, where the plant is located, increased by 393."

(Just a little perspective)

Tarrant County include Dallas and Ft. Worth, county has almost 2 million people................
And the hysterical media, as always, screech numbers by themselves as if 393 means something. Compared to when? To what? The naked numbers quoted in the article are meaningless without context.

And death rate is the real number, but the number that's parroted and screeched at us is "393 New Cases!" What does that mean? It means a headline and a talking point.
I don't call them "news" media, I call them media or I call them Pravda and Izvestia. They've learned to spout agitprop well. That doesn't turn propaganda into fact, though. My SOP is that everything I hears on the MSM is 180 degrees from the truth, until otherwise confirmed.

We've been subjected to this hysteria since January 2017. Herr Mueller, Russia Russia Russia, 'peach! 'peach!, then timed very conveniently the chicommie virus, now riots and the Soviet erasing of history.
 

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And the hysterical media, as always, screech numbers by themselves as if 393 means something. Compared to when? To what? The naked numbers quoted in the article are meaningless without context.

And death rate is the real number, but the number that's parroted and screeched at us is "393 New Cases!" What does that mean? It means a headline and a talking point.
I don't call them "news" media, I call them media or I call them Pravda and Izvestia. They've learned to spout agitprop well. That doesn't turn propaganda into fact, though. My SOP is that everything I hears on the MSM is 180 degrees from the truth, until otherwise confirmed.

We've been subjected to this hysteria since January 2017. Herr Mueller, Russia Russia Russia, 'peach! 'peach!, then timed very conveniently the chicommie virus, now riots and the Soviet erasing of history.
Always lots of hype in the media but reality is numbers are rising fast, percentage of positive tests is high and deaths will follow, especially if its transmitted to older population.

It's not hysteria but it's a serious sickness and it should not be taken lightly. My neighbor was in bed for 3+ weeks with Covid - very very ill.
 

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The US also has unique challenges compared to most developed nations that doesn't really have much to do with current politics. It's both rich and poor with enormous economic and social inequality with unequal access to healthcare and a very sickened population as a result. The US is the only developed nation with a declining life expectancy for example, which is already considerably lower than Canada just to the North. We were always poised to struggle the most. Politicizing mask wearing certainly doesn't help contain the spread now. It's really just the perfect storm and I think we are losing the plot trying to point fingers. Politics has certainly sickened the US further, making it weaker and weaker and unable to cope with crisis in a unified manner. The US has never done a good job critiquing and solving its own societal problems. Even when they are exposed, we still don't get it and ultimately make no changes.
 

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And the hysterical media, as always, screech numbers by themselves as if 393 means something. Compared to when? To what? The naked numbers quoted in the article are meaningless without context.

And death rate is the real number, but the number that's parroted and screeched at us is "393 New Cases!" What does that mean? It means a headline and a talking point.
I don't call them "news" media, I call them media or I call them Pravda and Izvestia. They've learned to spout agitprop well. That doesn't turn propaganda into fact, though. My SOP is that everything I hears on the MSM is 180 degrees from the truth, until otherwise confirmed.

We've been subjected to this hysteria since January 2017. Herr Mueller, Russia Russia Russia, 'peach! 'peach!, then timed very conveniently the chicommie virus, now riots and the Soviet erasing of history.
Always lots of hype in the media but reality is numbers are rising fast, percentage of positive tests is high and deaths will follow, especially if its transmitted to older population.

It's not hysteria but it's a serious sickness and it should not be taken lightly. My neighbor was in bed for 3+ weeks with Covid - very very ill.
I think it's good to hype it, but hype it with context. Such as "there are 393 cases, while not a large amount compared to the population, it is significant because it can spread rapidly and kill many older people and people with physical issues. At this point we need to take precautions to stop the spread." I'm fine with that, but I'm not fine with the way the media currently portrays covid-19.
 

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I think it's good to hype it, but hype it with context. Such as "there are 393 cases, while not a large amount compared to the population, it is significant because it can spread rapidly and kill many older people and people with physical issues. At this point we need to take precautions to stop the spread." I'm fine with that, but I'm not fine with the way the media currently portrays covid-19.
I'm fine with "393 new cases, compared to _____ last week and ____ the week before and ____ the week before." But that's not what they do. Because hysteria, not news, is their game.

And yes, this is a serious illness. It would be far less serious if Obama or Hillary were president. Guaranteed.
 

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OTOH, getting back to thread title, if UAW gets a wild hair up their arse and goes on strike...

Are they masked up in this plant? Are they distancing as per SOP? Then how is this spreading?

Or does UAW just want a few weeks of paid leave for free?
 

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I live in Louisiana, Texas's neighbor to the East. Mardi Gras gave us a head start on most other American states. California was first. Washington was second. However, Mardi Gras flooded the streets of the New Orleans French Quarter with revelers. Two weeks later, we were off to a roaring start. For several weeks, we had the highest infection rate on Earth. However, our Governor and most other elected officials fought like Trojans to bring the infection to a heel.

Most of the media attention at the time was going to New York--almost exclusively to New York City. After all, New York is an international capitol of trade and culture. New York City's population is more than double that of the entire State of Louisiana. However, New York came together with its neighboring states of New Jersey and Connecticut to fight COVID-19 on a unified front. When these states announced a plan, usually accompanied by Maryland down the Atlantic Coast, Louisiana made a similar announcement.

It was a difficult fight, but within a few weeks Texas ran us down and zoomed past us in COVID-19 infections--never to look back. Texas was not the only one. When most other American states saw that COVID-19 was getting out of control, Florida's beaches were covered with college students shoulder-to-shoulder in their swimsuits. When Florida infections started to noticeably increase, what was their first response? Nothing. What was their second response? To place a quarantine on visitors from New York and then a quarantine on visitors from Louisiana.

We had been fighting COVID-19 with everything we had. They had been lounging on the beach. Yet they blamed us for their infections. Texas followed a similar strategy. After months of doing nothing, they implemented a quarantine on Louisiana visitors. Eventually, both Florida and Texas relented and announced social distancing, but that lasted for a hot minute in each state. I have not not visited Florida recently, but my visit to Texas showed me that Texas business owners, at least, were not nearly as stupid. During a stop for lunch at a fast food restaurant, I was pleased to see that the restaurant continued its ban on dine-in sales.

The United States and South Korea both had their first COVID-19 cases on the same day. South Korea has wrestled the pandemic to the ground. Where is the United States? The United States has lost more fatalities to the pandemic than we lost to combat and disease in World War I. At its peak, New York suffered 5,000 new cases of COVID-19 per day. As of this writing, Florida is suffering about 10,000 new cases per day--twice that of New York at its worst. And Texas? Texas is suffering more than 8,000 new cases per day. This is better than Florida, but it is a disaster by any rational assessment. It is a disaster every day.

And, the real tragedy is that Houston, Texas has the largest health science center on Earth. To his credit, Texas Governor Gregory Abbott has finally started to take the pandemic seriously. He is reversing his previous lackadaisical approach to the pandemic. The governor of Florida is taking a more serious approach, as well. The governors may have seen the errors of their ways, but not all politicians are so enlightened.

Weeks ago, Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick said: "There are worst things than death." Now that the Governor is singing a different tune, Patrick is fit to be tied. You can't fix stupid.

Unfortunately, Darwin can.
 

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I'm fine with "393 new cases, compared to _____ last week and ____ the week before and ____ the week before." But that's not what they do. Because hysteria, not news, is their game.

And yes, this is a serious illness. It would be far less serious if Obama or Hillary were president. Guaranteed.
Indeed, but however, I don't know if I had entered the Twilight Zone but CNN posted something positive about hydroxychloroquine to help about covid-19 but that's for another topic. Now back to our regular schedule. ;)
 

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