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How many races has toyota won? One.
How many races has EVERYONE ELSE won? A LOT more.
I wouldn't get to worked up over this. Sure, they won this race, and the Gibbs team has been strong all year..but also look at it this way:

-Dodge has the Daytona 500 this year...in fact, first and second in the biggest race of the year

-Ford won the last 2 races, and had the best car today before mechanical problems

-Earnhadt Junior in a Chevy has been a top 5 car in 3 of the 4 races so far this year.

-Jeff Gordon in a Chevy had a top 3 chevy in Daytona, won a poll and top 5 in Atlanta, and at times had the dominant car and car to beat in the other 2 races.
 

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It was another dark, gloomy day for NASCAR. I would've been happier to see Busch's car hailed with beer cans after the race. There seemed to be fewer spectators in the stands, but a better show of disappointment would have made me proud.
 

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It was another dark, gloomy day for NASCAR. I would've been happier to see Busch's car hailed with beer cans after the race. There seemed to be fewer spectators in the stands, but a better show of disappointment would have made me proud.
Perhaps if the popularity of the sport continues to decline, the Big 3 will get the message, and pull out of the Series.

It is stunning how so many that howled with outrage when the Giant announced its plans to buy a Cup now have no problem supporting the Giant in his quest.

I believe the word is "hipocracy".
 

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NASCAR now officially blows.

First, they change to the Chase format which has robbed Jeff of 2 championships in 6 years. Second, they messed w/ the restrictor plate racing which forced cars to run together at Daytona, possibly costing senior his life. Third, they've allowed Toyota to come in and run races w/o their own engine, as they've been using Dodge blocks from the get-go since they didn't have anything of their own. Fourth, they now use "Car of Tomorrow" and will eventually use a 'common engine'.

I told my wife, after the first Toyota win in the main cup series, I officially withdraw support from watching every race (like we used to).

Put a fork in me, I'm done...
 

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Toyota was going to win this year, they got Joe Gibbs racing which is one of the top shops in NASCAR. This is no big deal, the teams/drivers are far more important than the engines. As long as Chevy has a few good teams like DEI and Hendrick, they will be just fine and always in contention.
 

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Can someone in the know explain to me the difference between a Camry stock car and a Charger or Impala stock car?

Are the engines different?


Who's up for seeing real Montes, G8s, Camrys, and Chargers on the race track for 500 laps? I sure am. Hell, I'd like to see the Craftsman truck series with the Tundra, Silverado, and Ram.
 

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Perhaps if the popularity of the sport continues to decline, the Big 3 will get the message, and pull out of the Series.

It is stunning how so many that howled with outrage when the Giant announced its plans to buy a Cup now have no problem supporting the Giant in his quest.

I believe the word is "hipocracy".

I was thinking the decline is because of Toyota, "good ole' boyz" don't drive rice-burners ............

If the Big 3 pull out, then NASCAR will die, or they'll all continue to root for their drivers in a Honda, Nissan or Toyota.

JGR has always done well at this track, the car is the same, chassis, suspension, set-up, Toyota engineers got the power out of the engine this year, Kyle drives like a nut, and wins or crashes trying .... (MOVE OVER DALE JARRET) yikes, that was close!
 
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