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I've just made an offer for a 2000 Bonneville SSEi today.... and now I'm second guessing myself.

Can anyone make a recommendation?
 

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Condition? Mileage? What was the offer?

Without knowing all the above, it's hard to know...I will tell you that I have owned a Bonneville in the past and it was a very good car. I had to replace the timing chain at 165K miles, but other than that it was just routine maintenance. Mine had the regular 3.8 though, not the supercharged one.
 

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It was driven by a little old lady from Powder Springs, Georgia. She just retired from AT&T. The mileage is 85k and she claimed she only drove it Tunica or her bus stop 2 miles away. They accepted my offer of $7,250.

I don't know nothin' about Superchargers tho.... how about you?
 

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Basically all a supercharger does is force more air into the combustion chambers in an engine, therefore giving you more horsepower.
Do you have pictures or something? How's the exterior/interior condition?
 

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The exterior and interior are spotless... as well as the engine and the carpet.

It even still uses the orange anti-freeze... everything looks strickly by the book.
 

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KBB.com shows a 2000 Bonneville SSEi w/85K miles on it to have a Private Party value of $7,625...so while it's not exactly a steal, it's still a pretty good deal.
 

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Well, sounds like a good buy to me.
Sounds a tad high to me. I would offer 5K.
85K miles is still a lot for the price they want.

I do not care what any 'book' says.
Money is tight. That car no matter how nice it is will cost a lot in fuel compared to a regular 3.8L.
At 85K miles there will be things that will need fixing. Like struts maybe?
The front ends on those cars usually wear out at around that mileage....
That has been my experience anyways...
 

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Is anyone aware of wide spread defects with the 2000 SSEi?

I've pulled the recalls and they indicate a problem with the brake hydraulics and fuel regulators.
 

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Is anyone aware of wide spread defects with the 2000 SSEi?

I've pulled the recalls and they indicate a problem with the brake hydraulics and fuel regulators.
Many here would probably know that.

I would look to GMCSonoma (Moderator) for those answers.
If anyone knows about repairs and parts it would be him.

He is very bright about such things...
 

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It even still uses the orange anti-freeze.
That could be a bad thing. Dex-cool is the devil. http://www.dexcoolsettlement.com/

Is anyone aware of wide spread defects with the 2000 SSEi?

I've pulled the recalls and they indicate a problem with the brake hydraulics and fuel regulators.
You should check out http://www.pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/forum/index.php There is a lot of info and knowable members on there on Bonneville's

I've had a lot of work done on my 02. It currently has 33,500 miles on it. I am glade I bought the extended warranty, but with the amount of problems I've had so far it's making me really think about selling it :(

As far as the gas mileage between the NA and SC versions goes, I have both engines, My 95 SSE has the L36 and my 02 has the L67. The only difference I see is city driving. The SC gets around 17 and the NA gets around 24... they both do around 30 on the hwy.

My list of repairs to date on my 02SSEi (remember I only have 33K miles):
Driver's seat heater
LR rim, bent, no reason and no damage
LF wheel hub, bearings went bad
Steering Rack replaced due to it making elephant noises when turning
Front transmission mount
rear transmission mount
Lower intake manifold gasket
valve cover gaskets
coil pack #3/6 and plug wire #6
plug wire #6 replaced again two days ago
steering wheel position sensor
Hood rust
drivers window regulator. i think both rears are going to go soon as well
headlight switch
Sunroof drains clogged and the driver's drain tube disconnected it's self.
All four doors were leaking water from the butyl seal failing on the deflector shield
trunk leaking water that I haven't figured out yet :mad:
Spent a lot of money curring the common problem with the 60-70mph shakes. Alignment, 4 Tires, Road force balance, new front lower control arms, front rotors and of course the new rim mentioned already.

You should look the car over really good and drive it at hwy speed to see if it has any vibration at all. Check the hood really good for rust bubbles, both sides. Drive it in some tight turns to see if there is any clunking sound, most likely from a bad intermediate steering shaft. Also, when you are turning the wheel left and right, check for a moan/squawk noise, kinda sounds like an elephant. Look in the spare tire well for any signs of water and feel the carpet under the mats... all of them. Check all window to see if they work, if they make noise in any direction or if they shake while moving up or down.

IMO Bonneville's are GREAT cars pre 2K... I love my 95. I like my 02 but not all the problems I've been having with it.

Check it over and good luck!
 

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my friend has a 96 SLE. her mom bought it brand new and then she got into a bad crash and the car was totalled. she bought the car back and had it fixed. you would never no it was in a crash as bad as it was. with over 100k on it its been a very good car. drives really nice to at highspeeds it just kinda rides along like nothing. like what everyone says look at the car very well. but it sounds like a really good car. if it was old people own you no that the car has never seen over 60mph so get it out on the highway and listen for the supercharger to start wineing out!
 

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My 95 SSE almost has 200k mileage. What a great car. I bet I'll get another 50k miles before it's over.

Does the 2000 model come with the L67 engine?

haha... 99 and back, you can't go wrong :D That's not to say my 02 won't go 200K plus like my 95 has. It just seems be having more problems trying to get there :(
 

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My 95 SSE almost has 200k mileage. What a great car. I bet I'll get another 50k miles before it's over.
I'm hoping to get to 300K with mine. :drive:

Does the 2000 model come with the L67 engine?
Yes, the car your asking about has a L67 in it. It was used in the all the 1992 to the 2003 Bonneville's that have superchargers. These supercharged engines are very reliable. Some members on PBC have around 300K on their superchagers and they have done nothing more than simple oil changes to them. So I wouldn't worry much about the SC unless it starts making a rattling noise but even then they are rebuildable with a new coupler and bearing. There's really not anything else that will go bad on them.

Did you already take it out for a test drive? You will really like the power of the L67, it has a lot more low end torque. The problems I've been having with mine aren't really engine problems, unless you want to count one coil pack and the plug wire. I know the drive train will make 200k easily on this car. It's just all the other problems it's been giving me that I'm bummed about. I've never owned a car with so many problems with so few miles. There are members on PBC that owns these with a lot less problems than I've been having. Just check it over very good and maybe offer less to help offset some of the potential repair cost you may incur. To give you an idea, I would offer no more than 6K at the very most unless the car is perfect and you really want it.

Here is some info that show the different engine models and their specs
http://www.pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=1628

Here's a list of common problem to look for
http://www.bonnevilleforum.com/showthread.php?t=227368

Here's what a bad intermediate shaft sounds like
http://www.zippyvideos.com/5141365973047856/intermediateshaftsound/

Here's my car making the moan/squawk (elephant) noise
http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o169 ... ise002.flv
http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o169 ... e001-1.flv

Here are some pictures of the hood on my car before I got it repainted
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169 ... res012.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169 ... res013.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169 ... res014.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169 ... res015.jpg
 

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The repair history shows that the Intermediate Steering Shaft has been replaced 4 times over the years. This indicates that the real problem lies somewhere else.... but I just can't put my finger on it.
 
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