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Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

The annoying thing about this article is how these journalists almost always turn the most positive of GM reviews, with all these great products coming out recently, into bash-fests of things they didn't like about GM (Pontiac in this case) in the past; they even slammed the Grand Prix GXP, which was actually a damn fun car to drive, fast, comfortable, nicely balanced, and a good value at the time; and they take a poke at the current Solstice. It seems only GM gets this journalistic treatment.
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

Yep, we can dream, but I bet Magnacharger will release a nice little blower to fit the L76 and LS3 engines for those with the need for forced induction. It might even end up cheaper than a LS9 G8 would actually cost. Just no factory warantee. :(
Well, you never know, one after market company might do something with Pontiac the way Steeda and Roush work for Ford, since those are sold through special Ford dealerships, and one comapny might take it upon themselves to make the forced inudction GXP an awesome special edition car, though it would cost a bit more.
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

The annoying thing about this article is how these journalists almost always turn the most positive of GM reviews, with all these great products coming out recently, into bash-fests of things they didn't like about GM (Pontiac in this case) in the past; they even slammed the Grand Prix GXP, which was actually a damn fun car to drive, fast, comfortable, nicely balanced, and a good value at the time; and they take a poke at the current Solstice. It seems only GM gets this journalistic treatment.
No, Ford and Chrysler get bashed freuquently, Ford for not bringing its Euro Focus and derivatives of that platform here, and Chrysler for having horribly fuel inefficient V6 engines and interiors
 
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I guess there really is a difference between Mopar horsepower and GM horsepower...

Are we sure that Dodge isn't overrating the horsepower out of the SRT8's? Or is it really just a combination of the 5 speed auto, oversized wheels and tires, and the rear axle ratio?
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

That was a great article. Other than a couple things (like brake feel) that Pontiac can fix with minor tweaking, the car seems to be right on the money. It will be interesting to see what kind of real world gas mileage the car gets. Every GM car I have had either met or exceeded its posted mileage. It really doesnt matter though because the G8 Gt will be my next car. Honeslty I could care less about a manual because I live where its cold for four months out of the year and remote start is an awesome feature.
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

Great review. Can't wait to read what the commies at TTAC have to say about it.
 
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Are we sure that Dodge isn't overrating the horsepower out of the SRT8's? Or is it really just a combination of the 5 speed auto, oversized wheels and tires, and the rear axle ratio?
Funny you mention it, I'm sure the Mopar fans are gnashing their teeth on this article. Either the Super Bee owner needed the "driver" mod or the G8 is really under-rated. I've seen timeslips of SRT8 Charger and 300C owners of stock versions in the low 13's and even high 12's. They reported this G8 ran a 13.4 quarter mile. Either this SuperBee owner can't drive his car or it's a total dog. He should have pulled at least 2 or 3 carlengths to 105 as they stated they "raced". As a total GM powertrain fanboy I want to chalk this win up to the superiority of the L76 engine over the 6.1 Hemi but I do have to temper my judgement. I do think the LS3 GXP will whip the SRT8's when they do come out.
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

must. . . . . .not. . . . .trade. . . . . GTO. . . . . for. . . . . . . G. . . . . .8. . . . . . .

Oh this is one sweet car. All the fun of the GTO, but with 4 doors and a sunroof.

Mama may just be getting a new car, then I can keep the GTO.
 
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Mama may just be getting a new car, then I can keep the GTO.
Now you've got it. :D
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

To all people that claim Edmunds hates GM, I think their reviews of the Z06, 2008 CTS, and G8 GT clearly prove otherwise.

I was also worried that the Hyundai Genesis V8 would be able to outrun a G8, at least in a straight line. It's supposed to have 14 more horsepower and be at least 100 pounds lighter. But if the G8 is hard on the heels of a 425 horsepower Charger SRT-8, I'll be astonished if it can't outrun the Genesis.

That is nice. But gm has to put DI in V-6 and V-8 to keep it ahead of competition. It will improve power and economy. Come on gm, who is going to buy v-8 g8 with manual trans. what is the point in getting performance sedan automatic.
One word: price.

Is any competitor offering an enormous fullsize sedan (more interior room than Charger) with a classy interior and fantastic handling for its size for $27,000 with a V6 or $30,000 with the V8? Nope.

I'm sure Direct Injection will get there eventually and manual transmissions may come too. But keeping price down is very important, and keeping things simple let GM do that.
 
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Is any competitor offering an enormous fullsize sedan (more interior room than Charger) with a classy interior and fantastic handling for its size for $27,000 with a V6 or $30,000 with the V8? Nope.
I agree with you 100%. If you get an optioned up Charger SRT the list price can go past $40K. I was pleasantly surprised with the G8 list prices when I looked at Pontiac’s website a few days ago. The complaints, considering the price of the G8, seem lame to me.
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

The annoying thing about this article is how these journalists almost always turn the most positive of GM reviews, with all these great products coming out recently, into bash-fests of things they didn't like about GM (Pontiac in this case) in the past; they even slammed the Grand Prix GXP, which was actually a damn fun car to drive, fast, comfortable, nicely balanced, and a good value at the time; and they take a poke at the current Solstice. It seems only GM gets this journalistic treatment.
I consider this to be a GOOD thing. It is useful in convincing those not impressed by those particular vehicle to check out GM's latest models. If rewarded those older cars with credit, then said this is EVEN BETTER, people would feel they might be biased if they didn't think those car deserved much credit.
 
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How does gm manage to produce only 360 hp from 6.0 v-8? that is just wrong. G35 has 3.7l engine and 330hp v-6 and they are both performance sedans. Look gm has 6.0l with 360 hp and that same engine with 400 hp. why not make one that is 5.5l with 360hp that will give you better mpg.
I believe that since the 6.0 has AFM, it allows the car to stay in 4 cylinder mode longer, due to more torque, like the GMT-900 hybrids. It also leaves room for a GXP model, as they don't want to price it out of people who would own one. I could see the V6 featuring D.I., but then it begins to compete with the Cadillac CTS, as far as a RWD sedan with a D.I. V6, I know, different tastes for different buyers. And besides, we want to scare the boys at Dodge, if the midlevel GT can keep up with an SRT-8, (and return better fuel economy, I'm sure), Dodge is in trouble.
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

The annoying thing about this article is how these journalists almost always turn the most positive of GM reviews, with all these great products coming out recently, into bash-fests of things they didn't like about GM (Pontiac in this case) in the past; they even slammed the Grand Prix GXP, which was actually a damn fun car to drive, fast, comfortable, nicely balanced, and a good value at the time; and they take a poke at the current Solstice. It seems only GM gets this journalistic treatment.
The reviewer comments on other Pontiacs seemed over critical to me too. The Solstice and the last generation GTO got good reviews and are very creditable cars. I just saw two favorable reviews on the Buick Super which is similar to the Grand Prix GXP. I guess in the reviewer feels he needs to maintain an anti-American bias to maintain his hippness in the automotive media world.
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

The Pontiac's six-speed automatic clicked off clean, crisp gearchanges just before its 6,000-rpm rev limiter,
Just doesn't seem as exciting as they say. I'm sure its a blast to drive, but so is my Aura. I'd rather row my own.
 
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Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

Just doesn't seem as exciting as they say. I'm sure its a blast to drive, but so is my Aura. I'd rather row my own.
Me too.

My dealer has a $500 deposit on a manual transmission G8 GT in Magnetic Gray Metallic with sunroof and sport package at straight list.

The only question is...will GM build it?
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

Just doesn't seem as exciting as they say. I'm sure its a blast to drive, but so is my Aura. I'd rather row my own.
Wait till the end of this year and you will be able to! I am susprised that the G8 GT was able to keep pace with the SRT8, I am very excited about that. And thats with 361hp vs. 425, just think what a compairably equiped 430hp LS3 G8 GXP would do! If the GT automatic can keep pace with a SRT8, then a LS3/M6 GXP should be able to do some door blowing!

The only question is...will GM build it?
I have said SO MANY TIMES, and I dont think anyone listens. The Pontiac rep at NAIAS assured me that showrooms will get 6-speed manual equiped G8's by the end of 2008!
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

That is nice. But gm has to put DI in V-6 and V-8 to keep it ahead of competition. It will improve power and economy. Come on gm, who is going to buy v-8 g8 with manual trans. what is the point in getting performance sedan automatic. LOL it is like when some people get corvette that is automatic. Those people need some help.
That's funny because I know many Corvette and GTO owners with automatics that when completely built...automatic is cometimes the way to go. I mean hell...the G8 GT has the vette's 6 spd auto and that thing is strong. Sorry that with some modifications having an automatic that can run 10s is a joke to you :blink:

How does gm manage to produce only 360 hp from 6.0 v-8? that is just wrong. G35 has 3.7l engine and 330hp v-6 and they are both performance sedans. GM needs to learn how to decrease displacement and increase hp. like every other company. Look gm has 6.0l with 360 hp and that same engine with 400 hp.
Hm...didn't know the L76 is the same engine as the LS3...wonder why they have different RPO codes... :lame:

why not make one that is 5.5l with 360hp that will give you better mpg.
Hell, I didn't know Active Fuel Management wasn't going to give it better gas mileage! Blast you GM for giving DOD and better mileage per gallon in a 360hp V8...

Seriously, is almost 30mpg (just a rating, many people get better) in a 430hp C6 on the highway not good enough?
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

I'm really excited to see these come out...an amazing car starting off at under 30k! I'm going to hold off until the GXP model comes out unless they mark that up 10k more than the GT. I'm sure it will have a reasonable base price and I have a feeling the performance market will be doing lots for these cars.

Maybe a nice single or twin turbo STS kit.
 
Re: IL Tests "America's 2nd Quickest Sedan"; The Pontiac G8 GT

That is nice. But gm has to put DI in V-6 and V-8 to keep it ahead of competition. It will improve power and economy. Come on gm, who is going to buy v-8 g8 with manual trans. what is the point in getting performance sedan automatic. LOL it is like when some people get corvette that is automatic. Those people need some help. How does gm manage to produce only 360 hp from 6.0 v-8? that is just wrong. G35 has 3.7l engine and 330hp v-6 and they are both performance sedans. GM needs to learn how to decrease displacement and increase hp. like every other company. Look gm has 6.0l with 360 hp and that same engine with 400 hp. why not make one that is 5.5l with 360hp that will give you better mpg.
You're confusing the engine displacement with fuel consumption. Don't ask me how but GM's big V8's always seem to get kickass fuel economy. I bet that 360 hp 6.0 V8 G8 will burn less than the 330 hp 3.5 L V6 G35 ;)



 
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