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Here is a list of things that the Silverado and sierra could really use right now to keep up strong with the competition. Some of these things should be standard and more should be options.
1.10 speed transmission
2.Diesel engine option for the 1500 series
3.A Automatic locking tailgate...(when you locks your doors your tailgate does as well)
4.A Dual Exahust
5.Rear hvac
6.Exterior 120V outlets
7.LED tail lights and headlights
8.Panoramic sunroof
9.Higher ride height
10.A GM FACTORY Ultimate off road package (ie Ford raptor) Not Reaper
11. Retractable Headlamp Washing System
12. Grille shutters
13. In floor ice chests
14. Larger fuel tank
15.A manual transmission option
16. More packages such as sport and more colour choices
A more of a leveler ride would be nice so people haven't have to go buying leveling kits. Personally I like to see the option of roof marker lights there as a option in the light duty pickups
 

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I agree, I think you left off one thing though...........

A Pair of these, standard, across all trims:

 

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An 8 speed trans would be nice, and please don't make the next generation bigger. 1/2 ton pickups have gotten out of control with the overall size.
Although I think with the Colorado/Canyon twins in the line-up, I doubt GM will downsize the 1/2 tons just a bit. That would definitely be one way to lose
some added weight on these trucks.
 

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These are the things that won me over to Ram:

Rear HVAC (big one)
8 Speed
Dual exhaust out the bumpers (yeah, honestly...)
Electric tailgate lock
Nicer looking wheels (nice 20" true alloy, not chrome clad)
Standard electric rear window on most models
Keyless ignition
Appearance options, such as my Sport without a ton of chrome (Chevy is late to the game on this one)
Better exterior lighting options
NO SQUARE WHEEL WELLS!!!! (Don't care for the too square and upright front either)
Console (seems only higher end GM's had them)
Color keyed components (comparably price GM had black door handles, black bumper trim, black mirrors)
Built in rear under seat stowage, as well as in floor ice chests
32 gallon tank
Nicer interior, don't really like the new dash

Not trying to bash in any way, just trying to add my constructive criticism and explain my decision. I leave this out there in hopes that GM can improve. I saw nothing in the Silverados I drove that blew me away. I would definitely be open to a Silverado in the future after I've enjoyed my Ram for several years.

And I'll agree on the size thing. All these trucks I think are too big, and are a pain to park. I still have an 88 Silverado, which I believe is a perfect sized truck for every day use. This Ram, even I have to stretch to get in, and I'm 6'4", can't imagine how people not my height get in!
 
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RCSB 6.2 sport truck.
 

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Here is a list of things that the Silverado and sierra could really use right now to keep up strong with the competition. Some of these things should be standard and more should be options.
1.10 speed transmission
2.Diesel engine option for the 1500 series
3.A deeper bed option
4.A Dual Exahust
5.Rear hvac
6.Exterior 120V outlets
7.LED tail lights and headlights
8.Panoramic sunroof
9.Higher ride height
10.A GM FACTORY Ultimate off road package (ie Ford raptor) Not Reaper
11. Retractable Headlamp Washing System
12. Grille shutters
A more of a leveler ride would be nice so people haven't have to go buying leveling kits. Personally I like to see the option of roof marker lights there as a option in the light duty pickups
1. coming.
2. Agreed, let's see how the Canyon and Colorado diesel sell
3. Not worth it, the beds are deep as hell as it is
4. What ever floats your boat.
5. Yup
6. Kind of hard to do, not sure if it's worth it. Maybe in the truck bed
7. Agreed
8. Agreed
9. He'll no, they barely fit in a parking garage as is. Go talk to your dealer for a lift kit.
10. Absolutely
11. Sure.
12. Already a feature on the k2xx trucks.
 

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Here is a list of things that the Silverado and sierra could really use right now to keep up strong with the competition. Some of these things should be standard and more should be options.
1.10 speed transmission
2.Diesel engine option for the 1500 series
3.A Automatic locking tailgate...(when you locks your doors your tailgate does as well)
4.A Dual Exahust
5.Rear hvac
6.Exterior 120V outlets
7.LED tail lights and headlights
8.Panoramic sunroof
9.Higher ride height
10.A GM FACTORY Ultimate off road package (ie Ford raptor) Not Reaper
11. Retractable Headlamp Washing System
12. Grille shutters
13. In floor ice chests
14. Larger fuel tank
15.A manual transmission option
16. More packages such as sport and more colour choices
A more of a leveler ride would be nice so people haven't have to go buying leveling kits. Personally I like to see the option of roof marker lights there as a option in the light duty pickups
And I'm sure GM will have at least some of those things within the next generation or two... After all they are the leaders in Truck...
 
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My thoughts:
1. Keyless ignition
2. Rear HVAC controls
3. Reaper
4. Either twin turbo V6 or GM's shelved 4.5 liter duramax V8
5. Rear heated seats
6. 8-speed on the lesser models
7. Center council on more models
8. Bose centerpoint stereo system
9. Panoramic roof
10. LED tail lamps/head lamps
11. 10-speed needs to start rolling out
12. Side bed pockets with a drain (like Ram). GM had them first on the Avalanche and needs to bring them back
13. Better designed front aerodynamic front splitter. Current one looks lame and takes away from ground clearence.
14. Dual exhaust option w/active performance shutters
15. Rally package offered with more trims/engines.. I love it, it looks bad ass. But why only on extended cabs?
thats pretty much all of them. My biggest complaint revolves around the extended cab trucks. All GM extended cab trucks always look less agressive to me compared to other trucks. Its because the trucks dont appear to have a leveled ride height. They seem to sit more slanted forward and it annoys me. The crew cabs have a great stance because they sit more level. Thats just my 2 cents
 

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Well, down south, we like our trucks to make a statement.

1) Black Wheel with mud tires, taller and wider
2) LEDs EVERY WHERE! LED Light bar in the grill (white for driving), along the entire step bar (side marker and turn signal), below the tailgate (brake), Single Spotter light on the roof (multi-directional)
3) Sticker package for the rear window. (Lake Life, Salt Life, Mud Life, Costa, Yeti, # of favorite male NASCAR driver, ect)
4) Lift Kit
5) Unadjusted Headlight from said Lift Kit, Black wheel, and Big Mud Tires (No cost option)
6) Truck Nuts
7) "Roll Coal" Switch (Diesel models only, standard)

12. Already a feature on the k2xx trucks.
Are you sure about this?
 

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Here is a list of things that the Silverado and sierra could really use right now to keep up strong with the competition. Some of these things should be standard and more should be options.
1.10 speed transmission
2.Diesel engine option for the 1500 series
3.A Automatic locking tailgate...(when you locks your doors your tailgate does as well)
4.A Dual Exahust
5.Rear hvac
6.Exterior 120V outlets
7.LED tail lights and headlights
8.Panoramic sunroof
9.Higher ride height
10.A GM FACTORY Ultimate off road package (ie Ford raptor) Not Reaper
11. Retractable Headlamp Washing System
12. Grille shutters
13. In floor ice chests
14. Larger fuel tank
15.A manual transmission option
16. More packages such as sport and more colour choices
A more of a leveler ride would be nice so people haven't have to go buying leveling kits. Personally I like to see the option of roof marker lights there as a option in the light duty pickups
They offer Borla dual exhausts from the factory now. Dual side, dual split rear, take your pick. Only $1250.
Rear HVAC is really not necessary in any truck configuration. The cab inside is small enough to have the same ambient temperature throughout. What would be nice though are heated and cooled 2nd row seats.
I am not a fan of panoramic sunroofs. It's a truck, not a convertible. Just weakens the structure of the vehicle. Regular sunroofs are fine. Grille shutters are a gimmick, and just one more thing to break on the truck. Larger fuel tank should be on the upper end of the spectrum in terms of priority. Ford offers a 36 gallon tank as optional equipment across almost all configurations (aside from reg cab short bed). GM offers an extended fuel tank ONLY in regular cab long bed configurations... I believe either 34 or 36 gallon tank.

I think more distinguishment between packages and trim levels would be better. WT, SLE, SLT, DENALI. Would be better if they all just had trim level names. Work Truck, Luxury, Z71, All Terrain, Denali, etc.

Oh and how about rounder wheel wells to allow for larger tires.
 

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These are the things that won me over to Ram:
Been a GM truck guy all my life. I have bought many of their trucks, both new and used.

This time around, there was truly nothing in their line-up that inspired me. I really wanted to like the new trucks, but they have been falling further and further behind with their innovations and refinements (or lack thereof).

Some of it was lack of options (can't say I agree with all the aforementioned requests for equipment, but there were definitely some there that I wanted - locking tailgate/rear HVAC/rear heated seats - and more). Some of it was the lack of "feel good" when I sat in the GM and drove down the road. It just didn't have any appeal to me. I missed having those moments where I'd just stare at my truck, loving everything about it.

My wife and I then went and drove this (completely skipped over Ford - no offence to anyone intended here, but their looks do absolutely nothing for me).

She even drove it on the test drive, and as a former Escalade owner, she said this truck is nicer than her Escalade was.

We bought it that day.

My purpose in writing this short novel is to plead with GM to start moving forward with your trucks. The rest of the competition are passing you on either side, and yet you're continuing to "play it safe". Let's see some real trucks, and listen to your customers!
 

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1. coming.
2. Agreed, let's see how the Canyon and Colorado diesel sell
3. Not worth it, the beds are deep as hell as it is
4. What ever floats your boat.
5. Yup
6. Kind of hard to do, not sure if it's worth it. Maybe in the truck bed
7. Agreed
8. Agreed
9. He'll no, they barely fit in a parking garage as is. Go talk to your dealer for a lift kit.
10. Absolutely
11. Sure.
12. Already a feature on the k2xx trucks.
2) Unrelated, different markets.
4) Duals across the K2xx lineup, at least with Escalade/Denalis/LTZ/Z71/High Country

Full-size Raptor competitor is still essential. ZR2 can be their "offroad brand" like SS is for high performance... just execute your product.
 

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Appearance options, such as my Sport without a ton of chrome (Chevy is late to the game on this one)


Like this? http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f38/2015-silverado-gains-custom-sport-package-192865/#post4650953

Chevy had the Z71 Appearance Package with body color front ends on the GMT900's.
Hence why I said they were late to the game. They issued the release less than 2 weeks after I bought my Ram Sport. Even then, the Ram was on the lot, Silverado, who knows when I'll actually see one in person.
 

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I think the "BIG" thing is GM will NOT offer "custom" models in normal trim levels and are required to go aftermarket to get something that is NOT the same as your neighbours truck
and the LACK of "basic" features like rear HVAC and locking tail gate
and please re shape the wheel wells as they are to tall and a tire that "fits" the height will NEVER fit in the opening side to side - to get the "stock stance" of a Ford / Ram the GM's would need to be lowered and as they stand there is to much under carriage/ under box showing

for me the whole design is a near miss and I prefer the GMT 900's other then NOW looking dated and "cheap"
 

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GM, where is your competition to any of this? Nut up and get on it! The new Silverado/Sierra are great trucks, I love mine, but you guys aren't utilizing the new platform to it's full potential!







This God-awful POS doesn't count.

And this 'ole girl ain't cutting it no more.
 

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