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The Toyota Corolla: A Case of Arrested Development

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The Toyota Corolla: A Case of Arrested Development
The world's most popular car risks falling behind a pack of new small-car competitors
Business Week

By Alan Ohnsman

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When Doug Hacker of Milford, Ohio, began shopping for a small car recently, he figured the model he'd end up buying was a foregone conclusion. A self-described "Toyota guy," Hacker was inclined to go with Toyota Motor's (TM) workhorse Corolla. The venerable compact is the Japanese automaker's No. 1 model as well as the world's best-selling car of all time, with cumulative sales from 1966 through last year surpassing 37 million units.

Well, the spell has been broken, at least in Hacker's case. After testing the Corolla, he was disappointed by the car's old-fashioned four-speed automatic transmission and the absence of a gas-sipping direct-injection fuel system. He decided to buy Ford Motor's (F) 2012 Focus instead. "I could not believe how outdated everything is," on the Corolla, he says.

Toyota has commanded headlines for much of the past year due to voluntary recalls of more than 8 million vehicles for everything from faulty fuel pumps to floor mats that could make accelerator pedals stick. Yet the world's largest carmaker faces another less noticed challenge: the aging of its biggest-selling model. Last updated in 2008, the current Corolla, which starts at $16,360, is the 10th generation of a model introduced more than 44 years ago. It isn't scheduled for a makeover until at least 2012, say industry analysts; the company is mum on a date. Meanwhile, a new crop of feature-laden small cars from Ford, Honda Motor (HMC), General Motors (GM), and Hyundai Motor is arriving. Unlike the Corolla, these compacts offer popular features such as voice-activated controls, high-tech transmissions, and connections to computer networks.

While Corolla (including Matrix hatchbacks built on the same platform) managed to retain the top spot among U.S. small cars in 2010, sales fell 10 percent, to 266,082. The brand ended the year just 5,864 units ahead of Honda's Civic. Analysts expect a more challenging environment this year, thanks to Hyundai's hot-selling 2011 Elantra and a revamped Civic that's due out in May.

"Corolla has always had a tough place in the market. It's never been a style leader," says David Champion, director of automotive testing for Consumer Reports magazine. "The new cars coming out offer more style and content. They're really going to give Corolla a run for its money."

While the Civic remains Corolla's biggest rival, the 2011 Elantra is drawing attention for its flashy design, better fuel economy, and lower base price ($15,500) than the Corolla or the Civic. Meanwhile, Ford's new Focus compact, Kia Motors' Forte, and Mazda Motor's Mazda3 are catering to U.S. buyers' interest in more stylishly designed small cars. The Focus seeks to attract buyers who want more European handling than the Toyota offers. Even GM, never a leader in small cars, is grabbing sales with its new Chevrolet Cruze, which boasts superior fuel economy and power relative to Corolla. "It's a small-car tsunami this year," says Jessica Caldwell, director of industry analysis at researcher Edmunds.com. "The only thing Toyota can count on is loyalty to the Corolla name."

Toyota's small-car leadership is at risk as competitors add technology and features to small cars, where sales have long been fueled by price and fuel efficiency alone, says James Bell, an analyst at industry forecaster Kelley Blue Book. "With Elantra, Focus, [and] even the Chevy Cruze, people are going to see what the standard is, and see that a compact car is no longer a penalty box," Bell says.

Bob Carter, group vice-president for Toyota brand sales in the U.S., recognizes the challenge. "The market is getting more competitive," he says. "I have a deep respect for Cruze, Focus, and Elantra." Still, he says rivals have their work cut out for them. "When you come to Corolla and the heritage and loyalty behind it, that's a lot for a competitor to overcome," says Carter.

Automakers facing such stiff competition typically maintain sales volumes by ramping up production and rolling out marketing incentives. Toyota can't easily do either. Last year, its joint venture factory with GM in California—the biggest source of Corolla production in North America—closed. A new plant in Mississippi won't start building Corollas until late this year. Until then, Toyota is getting cars from Canada and "importing some Corollas [from Japan], just filling in gaps," Carter says. That's an expensive proposition, given the yen's high exchange rate. Such are the dilemmas facing Toyota with a model that's showing its age.

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#92 ·
I wouldn't say it's a POS, but it's as basic transportation as you can get in this class. To many though it's attractive. It's a reputable nameplate that isn't going anywhere any time soon, has an above average reliability record, is affordable to buy and own and holds its value better than most.
Every Corolla I have had the displeasure to ride in has left me wondering why so many Americans settle for and spend their hard-earned money on such a huge pile of garbage.

Toyota's arrogance will cost them dearly. They're banking on the fact that there are enough Toyota sheep out there who will buy whatever trash they throw on dealer lots.

Now kids, what automaker had the same philosophy in the 1980s and 1990s? And what ended up happening to that automaker?
I can see the Corolla losing market share but still retain the title of best selling little car. There are a lot of Toyota loyalist that will buy the Corolla whether it is the best choice or not. They won't even look at anything else. Then there are the people who will look at the newer offerings and buy the one that they like best. The problem is that these people will spread their purchases over a bunch of different cars which leaves the Corolla at the top.
A self-professed "Toyota guy" is the antithesis of an automotive enthusiast. He might as well go around calling himself a self-professed "Whirlpool guy."
The Corolla is truly one of the worse vehicles ever. Even if you aren't a car person and only want to get from point A to B, it's still awful. I had a 2000 as a rental and it was awful. You had to practically floor it to get on the interstate, it was butt ugly, the doors felt like an old screen door slapping against a house when you shut them and when you did have to get on it to accelerate, the engine was so loud and had so much vibration it was like having 2 blenders on high. My 87 cavalier at the time was smoother than that POS Corolla. Oh and the interior was super cheap too and uncomfortable. ugh. I was so happy to give it back to the rental place.
TOUGH LOVE TIME
So, who should Toyota listen to? A handful of people on an enthusiast forum for a competitor, or the more than 3 MILLION people who've purchased a Corolla in the U.S. alone between 2000-2009?

Like it or not, Toyota has a reputation for quality and reliability based on decades of product that most manufacturers (especially GM) cannot match. They've been building Corollas since the mid 60's and have continuously improving the product since then. Contrast that with the Corvair/Vega/Monza/Chevette/Cavalier/Cobalt/Aveo. Sure, in the short term they sold well, but problems with each helped skunk GM's reputation in general and their efforts in the small car segment specifically.

By all accounts the Cruze is a great car and the Sonic looks promising, but it will take years to rebuild GM's reputation for quality before it gets anywhere near where Toyota's is. The sudden unintended acceleration issue last year was ultimately little more than a blip on the radar, and ultimately Toyota has been exonerated by the Feds.

Do I like Toyota? Not really. Would I ever buy a Corolla? Not if I didn't have to. Do I recognize that, until they are knocked off by a competitor, they are the standard bearer for the segment? Absolutely.
 
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We owned a 1993 Corolla DX that was an appliance by any stretch that was primarily driven by the Mrs. I will say it was dependable. I recently sat in and drove the latest Corolla and felt that I was in a time machine. The changes from 1993 to 2011 were minimal; same 4 speed auto for example. If anything the styling has worsened from 1993.

The 'sheeple' will continue to buy the Corolla. Maybe not 400K units like in the past but more than its share and more than deserved. As for me, I'll be looking at the Cruze.
 
#5 ·
After testing the Corolla, he was disappointed by the car's old-fashioned four-speed automatic transmission and the absence of a gas-sipping direct-injection fuel system.

I love it because , corolla still gets 26/36 : http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/24320.shtml .

The purpose of all these systems are to get get better fuel economy and the competitors who have all these systems are not getting any high fuel economy and no added unreliability.

so question : why you need all these complected systems if you can manage better fuel economy with it.

second : think if corolla gets all these systems, what would it be getting ( without all , its matching people who has all ).
 
#6 ·
I remember, barely, a time when the Corolla wasn't an utter snoozemobile. The reason behind Toyota's FT-86 was to recall that time, in the '80s, when the twin cam Corolla 2 doors were fairly desirable cars for drivers on a budget. Even the first generation of 2 door FWD Corollas weren't bad, the hatchbacks were compared with the GTI, and the coupe wasn't a bad looking little car. Not that a Z24 wouldn't have blown it off the road, but there you go. As GM fans, we know all to well what happens when things aren't attended to. I can't believe that Toyota has paid no more attention to the Corolla's issues than this. They'd have to do a better job than this to keep GM on its toes...
 
#9 ·
love the arrogance of Toyota's response: "our car may not be better but our competition can't match our reputation or heritage so we are in great shape". Really? Does that explain a 10% sales decline in a year when overall sales are up 10%?
 
#21 ·
I wouldn't say it's a POS, but it's as basic transportation as you can get in this class. To many though it's attractive. It's a reputable nameplate that isn't going anywhere any time soon, has an above average reliability record, is affordable to buy and own and holds its value better than most.
 
#33 ·
It's good to see the mainstream media finally point out stuff auto buffs have know for year about the Corolla. The 2012 Civic is just a minor evolutionary change, I think people will also miss the update. Right now, both Toyota and Honda are stumbling bad on their small cars. I hope GM and Ford seize the change to gain some market share here.
 
#35 ·
My wife drives an '03 Corolla. I hate that car. Its so uncomfortable to drive. I drove it from North Carolina to Florida to Texas last summer. My knees were constantly hitting the steering wheel because of the awful seating position with the steering wheel and the pedals. I'm only 5ft 11.5" and it was uncomfortable (not having Cruise control for all that driving sucks too). Despite the better fuel economy over my Altima, I won't drive it for that distance ever again. It like it was designed for short people or women......
 
#45 ·
Every Corolla I have had the displeasure to ride in has left me wondering why so many Americans settle for and spend their hard-earned money on such a huge pile of garbage.

Toyota's arrogance will cost them dearly. They're banking on the fact that there are enough Toyota sheep out there who will buy whatever trash they throw on dealer lots.

Now kids, what automaker had the same philosophy in the 1980s and 1990s? And what ended up happening to that automaker?
 
#51 ·
I can see the Corolla losing market share but still retain the title of best selling little car. There are a lot of Toyota loyalist that will buy the Corolla whether it is the best choice or not. They won't even look at anything else. Then there are the people who will look at the newer offerings and buy the one that they like best. The problem is that these people will spread their purchases over a bunch of different cars which leaves the Corolla at the top.
 
#52 ·
A self-professed "Toyota guy" is the antithesis of an automotive enthusiast. He might as well go around calling himself a self-professed "Whirlpool guy."
 
#55 ·
The Corolla is truly one of the worse vehicles ever. Even if you aren't a car person and only want to get from point A to B, it's still awful. I had a 2000 as a rental and it was awful. You had to practically floor it to get on the interstate, it was butt ugly, the doors felt like an old screen door slapping against a house when you shut them and when you did have to get on it to accelerate, the engine was so loud and had so much vibration it was like having 2 blenders on high. My 87 cavalier at the time was smoother than that POS Corolla. Oh and the interior was super cheap too and uncomfortable. ugh. I was so happy to give it back to the rental place.
 
#62 · (Edited)
Seems to be that this has turned into the Corolla bashing thread.
But the thing is with the Corolla most people that buy them don't care about the things that we all are complaining about such as the awkward driving position or the engine that lacks anything above 60 km/h or 38mp/h which I find to be factors that would turn me off from buying one for personal use.

Most people use them as cars to get people started on driving due to their percieved safeness and reliability which in turn makes some of those people a fan of the Corolla since they 'believe' it will be a no fuss car that will be reliable transport.
 
#63 ·
That POS sells because Toyoda does no money down, $169 per month for 3 years. Being that cheap and all the recalls, they can't be making any money on that garbage. Toyota was better off with the Cavalier.
 
#65 · (Edited)
Toyota -- and Honda to a certain extent -- must be worried. If anyone sits in a Cruze and then in a Corolla (or vice versa) they will immediately realize that the Cruze is vastly better. It looks more expensive, it rides better, it's quieter, and the materials inside feel and look better. As the article says, you aren't being penalized by Chevrolet for buying a compact car.

Toyota (and Honda) have been caught off guard by the Cruze and the new Focus. They've dealt with GM and Ford's historic efforts and figured the Cruze and new Focus would be "same old same old". Well, it's not. And each is different -- the Cruze being a more mature-oriented car, the Focus more sporty. Neither seems to be taking the attitude that the compact sector and the buyers in that sector should not also be pampered and treated with respect.

And that is a huge change for GM and Ford who seemed to not care about this, effectively, entry level.

And unlike another poster, I've not found the Corolla to be nearly as quiet as a Cruze. I've found the Corollas I've been in to be loud and unrefined. They ride on the road as if the suspension was an afterthought. My dad characterized his test drive of a Corolla as "tank like -- noisy and uncomfortable".

Finally, if Toyota's response to the Cruze, Focus and Elantra is to lean on their "heritage" they're hosed. GM did that and look where it got them. You can do that when you maintain quality, fun to drive, etc. But if you're recalling cars left-right-and-centre, if the cars aren't fun to drive, if the competition is priced as well or better, if the competition is safer, you're screwed. I think Honda realized this and delayed release of the new Civic. Sadly, it was too far along to do much other than minor tweaks. I'm sure Honda is not pleased that their safe path has been disrupted by GM, Hyundai and Ford. But for consumers, this type of disruption has happened before. Ironically, last time it was Honda and Toyota disrupting GM and Ford, now the tide has turned. The winner is the consumer and I'm sure they will check out the Cruze since it's such a great car, and here in Canada it just won Car of the Year, which won't go unnoticed.
 
#70 ·
"When you come to Corolla and the heritage and loyalty behind it, that's a lot for a competitor to overcome," says Carter.
Really Bob? That's all you've got to go on now? Just as a point of reference, here's how the previously "insignificant" Hyundai Sonata has done in the midsize segment:

Hyundai Sonata sales 1999-2010

1999: 30,022
2000: 45,983
2001: 62,385
2002: 68,085
2003: 82,330
2004: 107,189
2005: 130,365
2006: 149,513
2007: 145,568
2008: 117,357
2009: 120,028
2010: 196,623

From: Motor Trend

Corolla isn't invincible.
 
#71 ·
Why spend money on refining a car when you can get so many sheeple to believe "It's like a car, only better" ?!?!