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Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo Ute v Holden Ute SS V Redline
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Ford and Holden. Good start.

Ford and Holden utes, at the beach. Getting even better.

Well, how about the fastest versions of each of those respective vehicles – the Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo Ute and the Holden SS V Redline Ute – finished in green and gold?

The only thing that would make this Straya Day – ahem, Australia Day! – showdown even more true blue would be John Williamson chortling dandy sing-alongs in the tray of one while slurping on a steamy, sloppy meat pie, while Midnight Oil was pumping from the cabin of the other ute and Daryl Kerrigan was demanding something be done about housing affordability.

Unfortunately, we couldn’t organise any of that. Nor could we get Tony Abbott to show up in is infamous budgie smugglers. But we didn’t complain about that.

So, what have we got here? In short, these are two fast utes that are the last of their kind, and within a couple of years they will be no more due to the imminent demise of the local manufacturing industry.

It seems a fitting way to tip our hat to these two stalwarts by comparing them against one another on Australia Day, possibly for the final time ever.

Firstly – there’s no such thing as an XR8 Falcon Ute anymore, so we couldn’t go the full V8 hay-hauler extravaganza. We did ask Ford’s public relations if they could work something out for us (and the buying public!), again to no avail…

That means we’ve got the Ford FG X XR6 Turbo Ute with a six-speed automatic transmission, which has a list price of $39,810 plus on-road costs (you can get a six-speed manual for an even more affordable $37,610), which will hardly leave you feeling short-changed when it comes to bang for your buck.

The 4.0-litre turbocharged six-cylinder engine offers enough poke to make diehard V8 fans blush, churning out 270kW of power and 533Nm of torque and sending it to the rear wheels.

That positions the Ford in a marginally better position in terms of power output, with the 6.0-litre V8-powered Holden VF SS V Redline Ute pumping out 270kW and 530Nm in six-speed manual guise.

It’s the manual model tested here (with a list price of $48,990 plus on-road costs), and there’s a six-speed auto version available, but it has less power (260kW/517Nm).



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I've Never liked the look of the Falcon Ute from the AU onwards

The took the cheap route when they didn't integrate the tray and the cab and that really bugs me

At one point I wouldn't even recognize it as a ute because of that one thing

And I hate how everything with a tray is called a ute almost as much as I hate Americans calling everything with a tray (and some that don't have a tray!!!) a Truck
 

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I've Never liked the look of the Falcon Ute from the AU onwards

The took the cheap route when they didn't integrate the tray and the cab and that really bugs me

At one point I wouldn't even recognize it as a ute because of that one thing

And I hate how everything with a tray is called a ute almost as much as I hate Americans calling everything with a tray (and some that don't have a tray!!!) a Truck
Not sure I'd call it the cheap route. Their big calling card was the ability to option in a aluminium tray. Sure it's not as aesthetically pleasing but it was a selling point Holden gave up on.

Ford's ute in my opinion was the best looking vehicle in the AU range and the design since then as a whole has done pretty well. Not beautiful but good. I think the front end of the FG X is wonderful. I'd probably give it the nod over the Commodore actually.
 

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Not sure I'd call it the cheap route. Their big calling card was the ability to option in a aluminium tray. Sure it's not as aesthetically pleasing but it was a selling point Holden gave up on.

Ford's ute in my opinion was the best looking vehicle in the AU range and the design since then as a whole has done pretty well. Not beautiful but good. I think the front end of the FG X is wonderful. I'd probably give it the nod over the Commodore actually.
The Ute was the best part of the AU range but my point about it being a cheap route is that Holden managed to do a 1 Tonner without cannibalizing the car based part of the ute ideology
 

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The Ute was the best part of the AU range but my point about it being a cheap route is that Holden managed to do a 1 Tonner without cannibalizing the car based part of the ute ideology
True. But Holden's strategy was probably a more costly build which may not have been an efficient use of monies. Either way Ford chose its path and it worked for a while. I believe the Ford Ute outsold the Commodore for quite some time pre VE.
 

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I've Never liked the look of the Falcon Ute from the AU onwards

The took the cheap route when they didn't integrate the tray and the cab and that really bugs me

At one point I wouldn't even recognize it as a ute because of that one thing

And I hate how everything with a tray is called a ute almost as much as I hate Americans calling everything with a tray (and some that don't have a tray!!!) a Truck
Yes, I let the Falc slide because at least the front half is car based, but the Colorado/Ranger/HiLux etc are not Utes. They have grown too big to remain mini-trucks...
So I call them "trucks".
 

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Yes, I let the Falc slide because at least the front half is car based, but the Colorado/Ranger/HiLux etc are not Utes. They have grown too big to remain mini-trucks...
So I call them "trucks".
Yeah I try to catch myself every time and not call them a Ute

In a few years there will be no more Utes unless someone actually make another car based ute like the Proton or Brumby

I seriously want to buy one of the last few VF's before they are gone forever , I can see them being regarded like WB's in the future
 

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True. But Holden's strategy was probably a more costly build which may not have been an efficient use of monies. Either way Ford chose its path and it worked for a while. I believe the Ford Ute outsold the Commodore for quite some time pre VE.
Probably more costly which is why I said cheap route

Yeah it worked for them but damaged the Ute name IMO

There was a time when no one called a Hilux a ute
 

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Gotta say this talk of damaging the Ute name is silly. The word isn't sacrosanct, it's just an abbreviation. I'm 30 and have called Hiluxes and the like 'Utes' all my life. It's not a new thing.
 

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Gotta say this talk of damaging the Ute name is silly. The word isn't sacrosanct, it's just an abbreviation. I'm 30 and have called Hiluxes and the like 'Utes' all my life. It's not a new thing.
Got to say it mate

You're 30 :p:

I remember dad saying he was taking his truck out - or you can take the truck

It was a Holden 1 tonner and before that it was what would become the original Hilux

Kids today geez ;)
 
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