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I guess Dodge needs to think twice about Challeng-ing GM's GTO... :D

 

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This will be a nice HP war, but in the long-run GM will win. There is much more potential in the Gen IV small blocks than the Hemi.

2 problems with the G8 (and Camaro) for performance use.
1) the aluminum diff section, which will creep under temp changes and in high-powered modified vehicles failures are likely.
2) because they didn't use an AAM sourced unit, aftermarket support is nearly non-existent and what parts are available are very expensive.

Could-a, should-a, would-a, but the IRS cars are heavy and the diff just doesn't support a 550-600hp engine, which with all the technology is quite simple to build. AAM has an IRS version of the 860 which would have held up to the 400hp V-8 and has tons of aftermarket support.

Just like with the GTO, rear end failures will be common. Especially with stick cars. Remember the LS1 Camaro was plauged by the same problem, albeit due to an undersized 7.625" 10 bolt.
 

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Stock vs Modified doesn't really prove anything. Next week that same GTO could be handed it's &ss by a modified Vega. So I guess the Vega is better than the GTO?
 

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The GTO sounded modified to me, it was louder than stock and sounded like it had been cammed. Still nice to see a goat win tho.

Stock vs Modified doesn't really prove anything. Next week that same GTO could be handed it's &ss by a modified Vega. So I guess the Vega is better than the GTO?
Last time I was at the track I saw a 1988 Dodge Omni (not a Shelby GLHS) beat a turbo charged Viper, people were stunned.
 

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Was the GTO a stick? Was it modified? Sounds as if. Plus, it got a HUGE jump off the line.
Thanks Buick61:

I also noticed the off the line hesitation by the Challenger. However by mid point it seemed to really blast off. They should have run it again, too close to call given the difference in drivers.

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OMG, the difference was made at the LINE. The Challenger driver was sleeping.....like this is proof of anything! lol
 

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At first I thought that GTO was a Mustang, haha.

But wow, the Challenger looks like a Hot Wheels car with wheels that ginormous.
 

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Stock vs stock, would an SRT8 be faster? The GTO has 400hp @ 3750lbs and the SRT8 has 425hp @ 4150lbs.

Given equal drivers, my money is on the GTO.
 
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This is what I've dreampt of. Seeing these cars lined up at the strip. Next we'll see a Camaro/Challenger battle.

13.11 for the GTO sounds like maybe racing slicks, and maybe an after-market exhaust. 13.50 seems the time a stock GTO should get. Low-mid 13's was what I got in my '02 Z28. Depending upon elevation, and humidity. I ran on just the Goodyear F1 GSD3's.
 

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This will be a nice HP war, but in the long-run GM will win. There is much more potential in the Gen IV small blocks than the Hemi.
I think GM will win the HP war also because they need the LS family tech for a lot more vehicles than dodge does. As a GM fan I wish that the LS family had more potential than the Hemi but it's just not true.

I think a race between these two cars if stock would be a drivers race because the Challenger has a little more power but almost 300 more lbs. Since both cars were autos I would pick the GTO to eek out the win since it has a slightly better power to weight ratio.

Clearly that GTO was heavily modified since it clearly had an aftermarket cam. If you crank up the volume and you know what to listen for you can tell from the idle that the GTO has an aftermarket cam, at least. I have never heard of anyone just adding a cam and nothing more so I'm sure it had plenty of other mods.
 
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