This is bull****************. The best sports coupe was the viper? Their credibility just went out the window.

 

This is bull****************. The best sports coupe was the viper? Their credibility just went out the window.

Yeah most of the list was pretty hilarious but that one just made me roll my eyes. Not including the Z06 is... almost suspect.

 

Best sedan: Chevrolet Malibu? LOL

I wonder who did the research... Must've been half asleep when they got that crap up.

 

Best American Luxury SUV is the Commander? And coupe? I laugh at these. Maybe because the Chrysler group is now owned by a German company, that is why there products are getting praised as Chrysler isn't pure American anymore.

 

Best small American car and wagon Ford Focus???

 

Best American Luxury SUV is the Commander? And coupe? I laugh at these. Maybe because the Chrysler group is now owned by a German company, that is why there products are getting praised as Chrysler isn't pure American anymore.

You can say that again. :yup:

 

I think they just went through a list of names and rated them by that.

 

Its unfortunate that something like this will get to the general public. Their picks are almost laughable. Their only criteria were crash test ratings, reliability, and cost of ownership (which happens to be very closely tied to reliability). It is amazing how slanted their pics are for DCX, that is odd to me because I generally percieve their vehicles as overpriced and unreliable (I guess based on past experiences)...


as you progress in the article, they actually explain how fuzzy their "math" was when rating the vehicles

 

This list has no credibility what so ever. It's an absolute joke.!!

 

Best small American car and wagon Ford Focus???

American? Sure . . . and by far. Which one would you suggest?

 

• Small Car – Ford Focus: I actually agree with this choice
• Sedan – Chevrolet Malibu: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *breath* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Seriously the only trim Malibu worth anything is the SS. How did this get picked?
• Wagon – Ford Focus Wagon: Umm...Malibu Maxx SS anyone? Power, versatility, reliability, gas mileage...
• Minivan – Dodge Caravan: This was a given. Ford/GM have all but given up the minivan market
• Small Truck – Dodge Dakota: Ehhh...I'm not sure how I feel about this one. Its crash test ratings are good, but thats really all it has going for it. If thats enough to rate it the "best" though, then so be it.
• Large Truck – Ford F-150: Cant argue here, it's still the best.
• Luxury Sedan - Chrysler 300: I could argue that the STS is better. Caddy has a better drivetrain, better interior (the 300's is garbage), better reliability, etc. That said I'm not surprised by this choice and in all honesty it's not a bad one.
• Mid-Sized SUV - Jeep Grand Cherokee: Cant complain here, good pick.
• Luxury SUV - Jeep Commander: WTF MATE???? Can anyone say Navigator or even better yet Escalade?
• Supercar/Exotic - Saleen S7: Good choice.
• Hyrbid - Ford Escape Hybrid: One word - Greenline. Learn it, love it, use it. The Vue is better in every way than the Escape.
• Coupe - Dodge Viper SRT10: Huh? How about Corvette? Better interior, just as fast, better gas mileage, better reliability, better driveability. How does the Viper win this one?

 

"These 12 models show that Detroit still knows how to build great cars

Are American cars and carmakers getting a fair shake? Amidst all the bad news and management missteps, despite the overreliance on gas-guzzling cars and crippling labor costs, the tumbling stock prices and the depressing debt ratings, the news is not all bad. Like a struggling baseball franchise with some hot prospects in its farm clubs, the future could be a lot better than the present.

But from a product perspective, auto consumers interested in buying American have a wider range of appealing models—that is powerful, safe, reliable, fuel- efficient, or just good-looking—to choose from, which is better than past years. Even as U.S. auto makers continue to struggle to catch up to foreign manufacturers in terms of reliability, both actual and perceived, as well as initial quality, some of the most buzz-generating models of the year are homegrown. Of particular interest has been the resurgence of attention-grabbing sedans and coupes—especially such models as the brand-new 2007 Saturn Sky roadster and the 2007 Ford Shelby GT500."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13558576/from/RS.2/

Past this information along because it seems not enough people know about it. If only the news media would pickup on this instead of the negativity they've projecting.

 

This is bull****************. The best sports coupe was the viper? Their credibility just went out the window.

The Z06 outperformes the Viper in EVERY way for Tens of thousands less...... this is rediculous

 

99% of the cars on the list do not deserve to be on it!

small car?--ok, Ford Focus
Sedan?... the sedan should have been 300C, not malibu
wagon?...either Magnum or Malibu Maxx
Minivan...Caravan is right
Small truck... New Dakota is right
Large truck...F-150 is right, UNTILL new silverado debuts
Luxuray Car....CTS.... CHRYSLER IS NOT LUXUARY
Midsize SUV..def not Jeep GC
Luxuary... Commander??? are you kidding? NEW ESCALADE ALL THE WAY
Exotic.... saleen is right
Hybrid....DEF Saturn Vue
Coupe... could be any Vette, Solstice, Sky...they pick Viper... obviously these are very ignorant people


ITs really funny that Chrysler and Jeep are both considered LUXARY....

 

American? Sure . . . and by far. Which one would you suggest?

For best American wagon I would suggest the HHR or Malibu Maxx.

 

as if the Malibu is the only GM, there is so much that is better than what they actually chose. What a joke

 

This is just laughable. But in the end they're comparing different kinds of crap in most of these categories. In everything except the Large Truck: F150 (for a few months atleast), Luxary SUV: Escalade, and Coupe: Z06 the American companies are way behind. Also, if you look through the slide show the Commander is rated at 4.06, and the SRX is rated at 4.08. So why did the Commander make the list when it isn't the highest score? Typo?

 

Where is the Full Size SUV?
Where is the Z06?

 

Not only were their choices contestable, they did not bother to proofread the article. First: "With that in mind, BusinessWeek.com took attempted to rank..." Did they mean take? Second: The chart with the cars they chose says 'Hyrbid.' Her-bid. Good job msnbc.

 

Its a bad idea to have a "Best American Cars" list, no matter who wins. Why?

1. Because the Big 3 continue to drop market share to Japan; and

2. None of the products are truly American anyway. They are assembled in Canada, Mexico etc and/or with parts from God knows where.

This is like a "Best of the Worst" list. Other than the F-150 none of these "winners" can stand in the ring with the rest of the market.

 

These people are pretty dense.

I like the 300 a lot, but it is not luxury. The C version comes close, but it's still not a luxury car until they put better materials into it. Any Cadillac or the Zephyr should take this one home.

The Malibu? Madness! Maybe the G6 or Aura, but I have to reluctantly give this to the Fusion/Milan.

 

Its a bad idea to have a "Best American Cars" list, no matter who wins. Why?

1. Because the Big 3 continue to drop market share to Japan; and

2. None of the products are truly American anyway. They are assembled in Canada, Mexico etc and/or with parts from God knows where.

This is like a "Best of the Worst" list. Other than the F-150 none of these "winners" can stand in the ring with the rest of the market.

What they meant by American is the company. GM, Ford, and Chrysler( somewhat now since they are owned by DCX) are American companies. Now according to your definition of American, Toyota, Honda, and Nissan are American because they build some of their vehicles in the U.S? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. They will always be Japanese no matter where they build there cars.

You know GM still has more American plants then Toyota does even after they close the plants that they plan to close. IMHO, I don't mind supporting Canadians and Mexicans. Why? Because they're human beings too! They need to make a living. As long as the vehicle is reliable I don't mind where it is built. If it is built in the U.S, that is a big plus for me knowing that I am supporting our American worker. But, I will still buy a vehicle from Canada and Mexico as long as it is put together well and is reliable.

 

Is the S7 really considered from detroit? Why not the Ford GT? Obviously the Z06 should beat the Viper unless they have some data requirement that didn't make it eligible yet. The Jeep Comander is the most ridiculus statement in there. Can you even call it luxury?

 

:bs: :barf:

 

This is the second week in a row this guy has written a worthless article.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32979