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Tesla Model S Plaid laps Nürburgring in 7:30.909, production electric record
by Jameson Dow



A Plaid Tesla Model S has set a new electric lap record at the famous Nürburgring Nordschleife racetrack in Germany, with a lap time of 7:30.909. This beats the Porsche Taycan’s time by nearly 12 seconds, and is quite competitive with the gas-powered competition as well.
The 2020 Porsche Panamera Turbo set a 7:29.81 last year on the same longer configuration, which puts the Model S just 1 second behind the 4-door model from one of the world’s most respected racing marques. At the time this was a record for a production full-size car (also known as “E-segment” in Europe or “executive car” in the UK), but later that year the Mercedes AMG GT63 S set a 7:27.80 lap time. A second means a lot in racing, but on such a long lap as this, these times are virtually identical.

There is one 4-door still faster than each of these, the Jaguar XE Project 8, but it does not have rear seats, so doesn’t really fit into the same category.
Getting out of the 4-door category, the Model S Plaid’s lap even matches some sports cars that it has no business competing with. For example, the 2020 Chevrolet Corvette C8 set a 7:29.90 – but we believe that was on the shorter 20,600 m configuration, which would put the Tesla ahead by a second or two.
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According to tweet from Musk, this was an unmodified car straight from the factory. Good to see EVs showing they can tackle challenging roads on par with the best of the ICE vehicles of the same category. A lot of people were dismissing EVs as only good for straight-line acceleration. That hasn't been the case for a while but the perception lingers. So good to see more data points like this.

I suspect this will prompt Porsche to try to beat this time. They still have the Taycan Turbo S up their sleeve (their previous time was with the Turbo). And that should hopefully prompt Tesla to push harder to get the Plaid+ out and so on :D
 

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I wonder what my Soul will pull at the 'ring. Oh wait. I'm not planning on running it there. Nor has anyone here run the 'ring. But I guess this is an achievement. Congrats, Elon.

Now, get a new girlfriend, this one is super weird and highly unintelligent.
 

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Impressive that a young, upstart company can pull this off.
This will be a short lived record if Lucid decides to show up at the Ring with an Air Dream Edition.
 

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This will be a short lived record if Lucid decides to show up at the Ring with an Air Dream Edition.
Not necessarily. A modified (stripped down) Lucid Air tri-motor came within a second of the Model S Plaid time on Laguna Seca but didn't quite match it. But the bigger story is that these everyday-livable stock EVs (Lucid Air included) are nipping at the heels of the best sport sedans out there. They are even getting close to some true sport cars. The Model S Plaid time at Laguna is only 3 seconds off the overall record for the track (set by a McLaren Senna).
 
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This will be a short lived record if Lucid decides to show up at the Ring with an Air Dream Edition.
Not necessarily. A modified (stripped down) Lucid Air tri-motor came within a second of the Model S Plaid time on Laguna Seca but didn't quite match it. But the bigger story is that these everyday-livable stock EVs (Lucid Air included) are nipping at the heels of the best sport sedans out there. They are even getting close to some true sport cars. The Model S Plaid time at Laguna is only 3 seconds off the overall record for the track (set by a McLaren Senna).
I'm thinking that a company and a man, Musk, that builds a car with a button that says "ludicrous speed" and has launched a car into space, is going to lay down and let anyone take his speed records away.
 

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Not necessarily. A modified (stripped down) Lucid Air tri-motor came within a second of the Model S Plaid time on Laguna Seca but didn't quite match it. But the bigger story is that these everyday-livable stock EVs (Lucid Air included) are nipping at the heels of the best sport sedans out there. They are even getting close to some true sport cars. The Model S Plaid time at Laguna is only 3 seconds off the overall record for the track (set by a McLaren Senna).
Topped out @ 166mph, it gets there quick then just stops pulling. I wonder what it would be able to do w/ a 2sp trans attached to the rear motors
 

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According to tweet from Musk, this was an unmodified car straight from the factory. Good to see EVs showing they can tackle challenging roads on par with the best of the ICE vehicles of the same category. A lot of people were dismissing EVs as only good for straight-line acceleration. That hasn't been the case for a while but the perception lingers. So good to see more data points like this.

I suspect this will prompt Porsche to try to beat this time. They still have the Taycan Turbo S up their sleeve (their previous time was with the Turbo). And that should hopefully prompt Tesla to push harder to get the Plaid+ out and so on :D
I don’t think I have ever heard anyone dismissing EV’s as only straight line monsters. I think that might be the focus because the pull they have is excellent but that doesn’t mean they can’t be good at turning as well.

They should be awesome at a road course lap because the super low CG that the batteries create is perfect for handling and the insane torque helps them come off the corners while always being in the perfect gear. The only thing that’s a slight negative about a hero lap is the weight which is more than offset by everything else.
 

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Good on Tesla. I believe its inching closer to the production 4 door lap time:


Thinking out loud..........How many laps can an S do on a full charge? Curious if you could go lap at a racetrack all morning on a weekend, or if you would be done @ 9:30 between range & thermal protection.

The new Corvette Stingray w/Z51 package did a touch quicker at 7:29.9 for reference. But the price/performance of the new 'Vette is kind of a unicorn.........

I suspect this will prompt Porsche to try to beat this time. They still have the Taycan Turbo S up their sleeve (their previous time was with the Turbo). And that should hopefully prompt Tesla to push harder to get the Plaid+ out and so on :D
Yeah, Porche isn't going to let that stand for long in their backyard........especially when we know the Turbo S is still coming. They still hold the record for fastest production car (911 GT2) at 6:38.

I don’t think I have ever heard anyone dismissing EV’s as only straight line monsters. I think that might be the focus because the pull they have is excellent but that doesn’t mean they can’t be good at turning as well.

They should be awesome at a road course lap because the super low CG that the batteries create is perfect for handling and the insane torque helps them come off the corners while always being in the perfect gear. The only thing that’s a slight negative about a hero lap is the weight which is more than offset by everything else.
Yes and no. The low CG is definitely an advantage and will help keep it "flatter" and stable throughout the course. The weight will still make it push in corners more than something lighter and put added strain on the brakes and tires. Its kind of a trade off.

Crazy how fast cars have gotten!!!
 
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Not necessarily. A modified (stripped down) Lucid Air tri-motor came within a second of the Model S Plaid time on Laguna Seca but didn't quite match it. But the bigger story is that these everyday-livable stock EVs (Lucid Air included) are nipping at the heels of the best sport sedans out there. They are even getting close to some true sport cars. The Model S Plaid time at Laguna is only 3 seconds off the overall record for the track (set by a McLaren Senna).
Plus don’t forget how much these cars weigh. Once the weight starts to get reduced these will be unstoppable on a road course.
 
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And people wonder why I am very interested in the performance EV sedan coming from GM.
You take the Nürburgring on your route to work too?

Your CT6 is a V right?
 
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FWIW:

Fastest Nurburgring lap times (production cars) 2021
  • Porsche 911 GT2 RS MR - 6.43.300s.
  • Mercedes-AMG Black Series - 6:43.616s.
  • Lamborghini Aventador SVJ - 6:44.97s.
  • Porsche 911 GT2 RS - 6:47.3s.
  • Lamborghini Huracan Performante - 6:52:01s.
  • Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991.2) - 6:56.4s.
  • Porsche 918 Spyder (Weissach Package) - 6:57s.
 

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FWIW:

Fastest Nurburgring lap times (production cars) 2021
  • Porsche 911 GT2 RS MR - 6.43.300s.
  • Mercedes-AMG Black Series - 6:43.616s.
  • Lamborghini Aventador SVJ - 6:44.97s.
  • Porsche 911 GT2 RS - 6:47.3s.
  • Lamborghini Huracan Performante - 6:52:01s.
  • Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991.2) - 6:56.4s.
  • Porsche 918 Spyder (Weissach Package) - 6:57s.
The new ZO6 is going to be sub seven. Mins. Which means the ZR1 and Zora will even lower.

And people wonder why GM pays so much attention to the Corvette!
 

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FWIW:

Fastest Nurburgring lap times (production cars) 2021
  • Porsche 911 GT2 RS MR - 6.43.300s.
  • Mercedes-AMG Black Series - 6:43.616s.
  • Lamborghini Aventador SVJ - 6:44.97s.
  • Porsche 911 GT2 RS - 6:47.3s.
  • Lamborghini Huracan Performante - 6:52:01s.
  • Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991.2) - 6:56.4s.
  • Porsche 918 Spyder (Weissach Package) - 6:57s.
I do have one question about EV'S in general.

Let me know if this is the norm where you live. If you have a EV you get special plates that allow you to drive in the carpool lane.

My question is will this continue? Will people who have a EV continue to be issued this special plate allowing them to drive in the carpool lane? Or will this be fazed out as the number of EV'S get over 50%, 60%, and up?
 

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I would expect that as there are more and more EV's on the road, things like that to incentivize people to buy EVs would be reduced/eliminated. If everyone gets to use the carpool lane, it ceases to be different from all the other lanes.
 

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I do have one question about EV'S in general.

Let me know if this is the norm where you live. If you have a EV you get special plates that allow you to drive in the carpool lane.

My question is will this continue? Will people who have a EV continue to be issued this special plate allowing them to drive in the carpool lane? Or will this be fazed out as the number of EV'S get over 50%, 60%, and up?
We don't have HOL around here, but I believe it places that do, I believe they have already started reducing that type.

I know you are a really smart guy, but when (what year) do you think the VIO will get to 50% - 60%EV?

You make it sound like it would be sometime soon, I'm thinking around 2045 - 2050.
 
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