[mbukukanyau]

A total of 1,631,064 new cars were registered in the UK in 2020, compared with 2,311,140 in 2019. In December, 132,682 cars were registered, down from 148,997 in December 2019.

Just shy of 6000 examples of Tesla’s entry-level EV were registered in December, making it the best-selling car of the month. Its 5798 registrations gave it an advantage of more than 1000 over the next most popular car, the new Volkswagen Golf (4470) and more than 2000 over the Ford Fiesta (3367).

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...odel-3-was-uk’s-best-selling-new-car-december

 

[VS Ute 5Litre]

Something Odd going on here

VW Golf starts at ~28k pounds Sterling

Tesla Model 3 starts at ~40k Pounds Sterling

There is no way in hell you're going to convince me that all of a sudden people all at once thought

"gee lets blow nearly double on our new city run about"

In a pandemic

:fall:

 

[69gtsdart]

Something Odd going on here

VW Gold starts at ~28k pounds Sterling

Tesla Model 3 starts at ~40k Pounds Sterling

There is no way in hell you're going to convince me that all of a sudden people all at once thought

"gee lets blow nearly double on our new city run about"

In a pandemic

:fall:

Maybe its because of the Push for EV's since ICE's are going away.

 

[VS Ute 5Litre]

Maybe its because of the Push for EV's since ICE's are going away.

thats a decade away .......


Nah I bet this is pent up demand from orders going back 3-6 months

40k is a hell of a lot of money in the UK

The average wage is like 36k Spending 40k on a car is a very very big deal for the average person

 

[dannyg]

Tesla seems to "clump" deliveries, which generates stories like this. The article says the VW ID3 is Europe's best selling EV. A hatchback that won't be imported to the US (we get the ID4 crossover).

 

[mbukukanyau]

Tesla seems to "clump" deliveries, which generates stories like this. The article says the VW ID3 is Europe's best selling EV. A hatchback that won't be imported to the US (we get the ID4 crossover).

It’s the old Apple trick of paying people to line up at the Apple store for the iPhone release each begging to spend the night in the cold to spend $1,100.00 dollars to be the foist to own an iWhatever

 

[Neanderthal]

Maybe its because of the Push for EV's since ICE's are going away.

The push is government mandates. Let's be clear about this. It's about a gaggle of Smartest-Guy-In-The-Room mediocre-IQ elected and appointed government schlubs deciding what is best for the Great Unwashed Masses. Remember, none of them run businesses or ever have.

For US examples, we have Michigan governator Whitmer who's spent her entire adult life in kollij or on the government dole. Same with Ohio governator DeWhine, he's been a "servant of the people" his whole life.

These people are 99.99% isolated from any negative consequence from their actions. They don't get closed down, they don't get fired, they don't get laid off. They develop the mindset that they know what's best, they surround themselves with yes-men :worship: and yes-women, and they think they can direct business when they have never been in business.

They are unaware of the physical and economic impossibilities of the sort of electric power generation that would be necessary :faint: should their green wet dreams reach fruition. But no matter, al will retire comfortably on government pensions, some will have armed security for the rest of their lives, and their dreams will crash for others just like the famous Soviet 5-year and 10-year plans.:fall:

It’s the old Apple trick of paying people to line up at the Apple store for the iPhone release each begging to spend the night in the cold to spend $1,100.00 dollars to be the foist to own an iWhatever

Cool is cool. And cool is at the top of some peoples' lists of what they need in life. Food. Shelter. Clothing. Jealous stares from dozens of wish-I-was-that-cool strangers.
And yes, what sort of fools would line up like that for a new coolness factor? Damned fools is my best estimate.

 

[mbukukanyau]

The push is government mandates. Let's be clear about this. It's about a gaggle of Smartest-Guy-In-The-Room mediocre-IQ elected and appointed government schlubs deciding what is best for the Great Unwashed Masses. Remember, none of them run businesses or ever have.

For US examples, we have Michigan governator Whitmer who's spent her entire adult life in kollij or on the government dole. Same with Ohio governator DeWhine, he's been a "servant of the people" his whole life.

These people are 99.99% isolated from any negative consequence from their actions. They don't get closed down, they don't get fired, they don't get laid off. They develop the mindset that they know what's best, they surround themselves with yes-men :worship: and yes-women, and they think they can direct business when they have never been in business.

They are unaware of the physical and economic impossibilities of the sort of electric power generation that would be necessary :faint: should their green wet dreams reach fruition. But no matter, al will retire comfortably on government pensions, some will have armed security for the rest of their lives, and their dreams will crash for others just like the famous Soviet 5-year and 10-year plans.:fall:



Cool is cool. And cool is at the top of some peoples' lists of what they need in life. Food. Shelter. Clothing. Jealous stares from dozens of wish-I-was-that-cool strangers.
And yes, what sort of fools would line up like that for a new coolness factor? Damned fools is my best estimate.

Sometimes cool is freezing

 

[CJH]

Tesla seems to "clump" deliveries, which generates stories like this. The article says the VW ID3 is Europe's best selling EV. A hatchback that won't be imported to the US (we get the ID4 crossover).

Yeah, sounds like a bunch of product hit the market that month.

 

[bballr4567]

Tesla seems to "clump" deliveries, which generates stories like this. The article says the VW ID3 is Europe's best selling EV. A hatchback that won't be imported to the US (we get the ID4 crossover).

It's because they ship them over from the Freemont factory in large clumps. Some months you have 3-4 ships of 1100 a piece arriving and some months you have 1. Once Gigaberlin is finished all of the EU cars will come from there.

 

[emh]

Something Odd going on here

VW Golf starts at ~28k pounds Sterling

Tesla Model 3 starts at ~40k Pounds Sterling

There is no way in hell you're going to convince me that all of a sudden people all at once thought

"gee lets blow nearly double on our new city run about"

In a pandemic

:fall:

Tesla's deliveries to Europe are very bursty. It's a trickle for several months and a whole bunch the next month. This year was particularly bad because Fremont was shut down for a long time. I'm guessing that's why the December numbers are so high. It's not going to be indicative of an average month of deliveries.

 

[VS Ute 5Litre]

Tesla's deliveries to Europe are very bursty. It's a trickle for several months and a whole bunch the next month. This year was particularly bad because Fremont was shut down for a long time. I'm guessing that's why the December numbers are so high. It's not going to be indicative of an average month of deliveries.

Precisely

Which is why this is a big nothing burger of a story (again)

This big bunch of December sales will flatline for 6 months again then when production shortfall is maintained you will see them level out to figures in the hundreds per month (perhaps a high of 1k)not thousands

 

[mbukukanyau]

It's because they ship them over from the Freemont factory in large clumps. Some months you have 3-4 ships of 1100 a piece arriving and some months you have 1. Once Gigaberlin is finished all of the EU cars will come from there.

Still valid points, but UK left the EU.

 

[Oldsmobile stopped]

Electric cars will take off in 2021 in Europe as the European Union new EV cars are being EU legislation regulation force fed in bashing thier EU carmakers with the Climate Change stick obey or face heavy C02 based emission fines. European car makers are being give choice two choices to obey their EU masters or face financial ruin option.

More EV's less ICE or pay da EU Government fines till you go bust.

Sweden has just hit a massive 49.4% plugin electric vehicle share in December 2020, over 4× the share of December 2019 (11%).

Norway, the auto market most advanced down the path to electromobility, has seen new records broken in December, with 87.1% market share for plugin electric vehicles. Over two thirds were pure electric vehicles, and non-hybrid combustion vehicles fell to just 7.5% market share.

The UK’s plugin electric vehicle market hit new highs in December 2020, at 23.4% market share, up from 6.6% in December 2019. The Tesla Model 3 was the UK’s best selling auto of any kind in December, with 5,798 vehicles delivered. 2020’s overall plugin volumes grew 2.4× over 2019, despite the UK auto market being down almost 30% in volume.

Germany, Europe’s largest auto market and the 4th largest in the world, achieved 26.6% plugin electric vehicle share in December. This is a stunning ascent from the 4.0% share seen in December 2019.

 

[1958carnut]

Tesla's deliveries to Europe are very bursty. It's a trickle for several months and a whole bunch the next month. This year was particularly bad because Fremont was shut down for a long time. I'm guessing that's why the December numbers are so high. It's not going to be indicative of an average month of deliveries.

Scheduled to be dumped near the quarter end? to boost their numbers creating a bit of a smoke screen to some making them look better onder:.

 

[Oldsmobile stopped]

Still valid points, but UK left the EU.

Not seen any new UK C02 type EU heavy fines legislation, something like high C02 Cadillac/Mustang sold would attract $12,000 C02 emission fines so they won't do sell well in 2021, whilst something like a Tesla Model 3 earns C02 credits Fiat purchased nearly $2 billion of C02 credits from Tesla to avoid paying higher EU C02 based fines.

l would have thought the UK will be the a local dumping ground in Europe for very cheap high C02 emission car, that does not seem the case. A lot people have been locked up at home since March not allowed out there homes for 9 months apart for exercise once a day, and shop for food/DIY once a week nearly everything else has been closed shut for business paid for by Fiat money. So l guess with most of wages in coming in on furlough to produce nothing means they saved a lot of money in the bank to spend on a Tesla as they to face a mass of C02 fines for owning an ICE car:

Congestion zone charges $80 a week ICE car, free for EV.

Low Emmisions Zones $542 a day rising at the moment, $1,084 to drive an sooty truck into London LEZ in the future when the boundary expands out move to catch Greater London where 1 in 6 of the UK population live free EV trucks.

$3 a day covid tax to drive the car into London to encourage cycling into work.

$270 to park outside your home in the street in urban areas.

Showroom Tax $1500 on a Mustang v 0.00 on a Tesla Model 3

$1,350 to park at work is being rolled out

Annual Road repair road tax up to $430 on a Mustang $0.00 for Tesla Model 3 EV's up to for ICE cars.

$4,000 incentive to buy a Tesla Model 3 EV, nothing for any ICE powered car

Every ICE car fill-up 80% of it a tankful of tax 60% fuel duty tax + 20% VAT tax Mustang v8 = massive UK fuel tax bill, Tesla Model 3 avoids these big taxes

UK December 2020 fuel prices are very high not Cadillac v8 friendly, very Tesla friendly it dosen't burn it, on a level playing field with UK EV cars.

USA (UK litre)
Unleaded $43.22 $Diesel 50.54

UK (UK litre)
Unleaded $156.7 Diesel $160.7

Europeans pay mainly a tank full of fuel taxes at ICE fill-ups 3 times more. Tesla Model 3 ducks under that radar is the first American "made" car to break the mould hit the No1 spot in the UK rather than No 501 like Cadillac v8.

Basically you get ripped off with climate change taxes if you own an ICE car in the UK, which will face bans in city centres or will become more and more taxed by draconian climate change legislation, Boris Johnson UK PM is a keen cyclist doesn't like cars, London's Mayor Mr Khan is the same.

Folk are thinking EV for long term avoidance of paying UK C02 climate change legislated in ICE taxes, is that correct Rupert Trooper?

 

[mbukukanyau]

Not seen any new UK C02 type EU heavy fines legislation, something like high C02 Cadillac/Mustang sold would attract $12,000 C02 emission fines so they won't do sell well in 2021, whilst something like a Tesla Model 3 earns C02 credits Fiat purchased nearly $2 billion of C02 credits from Tesla to avoid paying higher EU C02 based fines.

l would have thought the UK will be the a local dumping ground in Europe for very cheap high C02 emission car, that does not seem the case. A lot people have been locked up at home since March not allowed out there homes for 9 months apart for exercise once a day, and shop for food/DIY once a week nearly everything else has been closed shut for business paid for by Fiat money. So l guess with most of wages in coming in on furlough to produce nothing means they saved a lot of money in the bank to spend on a Tesla as they to face a mass of C02 fines for owning an ICE car:

Congestion zone charges $80 a week ICE car, free for EV.

Low Emmisions Zones $542 a day rising at the moment, $1,084 to drive an sooty truck into London LEZ in the future when the boundary expands out move to catch Greater London where 1 in 6 of the UK population live free EV trucks.

$3 a day covid tax to drive the car into London to encourage cycling into work.

$270 to park outside your home in the street in urban areas.

Showroom Tax $1500 on a Mustang v 0.00 on a Tesla Model 3

$1,350 to park at work is being rolled out

Annual Road repair road tax up to $430 on a Mustang $0.00 for Tesla Model 3 EV's up to for ICE cars

Basically you get ripped off with climate change taxes if you own an ICE car in the UK, which will face bans in city centres or will become more and more taxed by draconian climate change legislation, Boris Johnson UK PM is a keen cyclist doesn't like cars, London's Mayor Mr Khan is the same.

Folk are thinking EV for long term avoidance of paying C02 taxes.

Is that right Rupert Trooper?

Man where is the freedom in those types of taxes?

 

[Neanderthal]

Man where is the freedom in those types of taxes?

The Peoples Democratic Republic of Europe, Central Planners know best. Give them 20 or 30 years, today will look great. I often find myself asking, just why did we fight WWII, again?

 

[VS Ute 5Litre]

WWII was about 80 years ago


time to move on ........

 

[1958carnut]

WWII was about 80 years ago


time to move on ........

And put them on ignore the next time they come damn crying for rescue.