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Key to the plans is the introduction of four battery-electric platforms to cover Stellantis' 14 brands, including platforms with the capability of delivering up to 500 miles of range.

The plans also call for the introduction of a hydrogen-electric commercial van by the end of 2021, and solid-state batteries by 2026.

Stellantis' four upcoming electric platforms are referred to as STLA Small, STLA Medium, STLA Large, and STLA Frame. The platforms have been designed to be flexible when it comes to length and width, and they've also been designed so that key components can be shared across them, like modular drive units combining the electric motor, transmission and inverter. The compact drive units can be used for front-, rear-, all-wheel- and plug-in hybrid configurations, and up to three of them can be fitted in a vehicle.

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LOL. Toyota also perpetually confirms solid state for 5 years from now.

Next year Toyota, Stellantis and VW will confirm production of solid state for 2027.

Auto CEO to battery scientist " When will SS be ready?"

Battery scientist "5 years boss"

Auto CEO thought bubble " Well , if it is past 5 years it is not worth investing in. That is just University stuff pure research."
 

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Automotive News the Stellantis master plan. LINK

How Stellantis is positioning its 14 brands for an EV future
Jeep touts "zero emission freedom" while Ram says it is "built to serve a sustainable planet."



The rapid transition to electrification has presented a challenge for marketers: How do you reposition decades of brand equity built on traditional automotive values for a new greener, cleaner world?

Volkswagen’s "Voltswagen" controversy showed that it’s a delicate task.
Stellantis tackled the subject on Thursday, presenting slogans, or mission statements, that sum up each of its 14 brands’ electric ambitions, as part of a comprehensive presentation on its electrification road map.

Stellantis to invest more than $35.5B to electrify lineup; Dodge, Ram vehicles to play major role

The task is also to carve out space for each of those brands in two main markets -- Europe and the U.S.

Analyst Philippe Houchois of Jefferies gave Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares positive marks on the presentation, noting that Stellantis' "clear brand differentiation" would "limit overlap and support the upcoming rationalization of European distribution by 2023, opening the way to more direct selling and multi-brand dealers."

Overall, "The EV Day should have put to rest lingering concerns that Stellantis lagged industry electrification," Houchois said. "We found industrial strategy consistent with peers, product launches in sync with different market pace, and capital spending consistent with historical capital efficiency."

Here are the new slogans, and what they say about each brand’s electrified future:



Jeep: "Zero emission freedom." The rugged American brand is now fully electrified in Europe with plug-in hybrids. Teaser images showed this week point to full-electric Jeeps by 2025.

Ram: "Built to serve a sustainable planet." Ram is lagging competition from Ford, GM and startups in announcing a full-electric pickup, but Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares suggested that the brand will be more than ready when there is a critical market mass in the U.S., by 2024.

Chrysler: "Clean technology for a new generation of families." Little was said about Chrysler, which in recent years has sold only minivans in the U.S. Its slogan indicates that it will focus on spacious models on the STLA Large EV platform – but not necessarily vans.



Dodge: "Tear up the streets…not the planet." Stellantis acknowledged that the brand’s 800 hp, gasoline-fueled V8 muscle cars won’t be easily replicated by EVs -- but Dodge will offer an "eMuscle" car by 2024.

Alfa Romeo: "From 2024, Alfa becomes Alfa e-Romeo," with the serpent becoming a power plug. The premium brand, which underperformed under Fiat Chrysler, has a new CEO, Jean-Philippe Imperato, and will add new, electrified models in the coming years.

DS Automobiles: "The art of travel, magnified." The premium brand launched in 2014 by promoting "French savoir-faire" and craftsmanship. It will be a part of Stellantis’ premium group with Alfa Romeo and Lancia.
Lancia: "The most elegant way to protect the planet." The Italian brand is something of a blank slate, with three models in the pipeline and ambitions to expand outside of its current sole market, Italy. The slogan suggests "elegance" will define its position in the Stellantis premium group.

Maserati: "The best in performance luxury, electrified." The highest-priced Stellantis brand has just rolled out the MC20 supercar, which will have a full-electric version in two years.



Opel/Vauxhall: "Green is the new cool." The German automaker has ramped up its electrification, by announcing it will become full-electric only by 2028 in Europe, and enter the Chinese marked as an EV brand.
Peugeot: "Turning sustainable mobility into quality time." PSA Group’s flagship brand has been a leader in electrification; new CEO Linda Jackson says the next model generation will focus on increasing human productivity, suggesting an autonomous future.



Fiat: "It's only green when it's green for all." The iconic Italian mass-market brand has just dipped into electrification with the New 500, but affordability will be central to future EV models.
Abarth: "Heating up people, but not the planet." The high-performance Fiat sub-brand does not yet have any electrified models, but the slogan indicates that it will.
Citroen: "Citroen electric: Well-being for all!" In recent years, the French mass-market brand has emphasized comfort and quirky styling. Its recent electrification push started with a single plug-in hybrid SUV, but this year has launched a full-electric version of the C4 compact.
 

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Opel fully electric by 2028, that should finish them off. Green is the new cool, sadly Opel will never be cool, Opel car designs totally boring about as exciting as watching paint dry, a leopard cannot change it's spots,. I bet Rupert Trooper is their PR guy.

Alfa Romeo brand become Alfa e Romeo after 2024, adding an e that's original.

US pick-ups will have a critical mass by 2024, Ram will be more than ready ready, critical mass of what?
 

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I don't know man, where are they getting them batteries? Do they have a Zero factory or they made a deal with CATL?
 

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I don't know man, where are they getting them batteries? Do they have a Zero factory or they made a deal with CATL?
Psssssst. Nobody cares.

Needless to say, it looks like they are further along on their EV platform development than they have been given credit for. I do like the modularity of it.
 

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I don't know man, where are they getting them batteries? Do they have a Zero factory or they made a deal with CATL?

Supposedly they will make battery cells with French oil firm Total for their first battery cell factory. Like SKI, Total is betting big on switching from oil and gas to batteries.

Stellantis said they have not excluded anybody from becoming a JV partner in the future. Specifically naming CATL,LG,Samsung and SKI.
 

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Supposedly they will make battery cells with French oil firm Total for their first battery cell factory.
Yeah, I trust a French battery to work.

Stellantis' 14 brands
Many are called, few are chosen.
 

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Yeah, I trust a French battery to work.
LOL

Just ask any motor mechanic what they think of electrical problems in French cars, they will tell you they are riddled with them, they will be riddled with thermal runaway problems, Opel's will be going up in smoke again.

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Californian tinderbox at the moment will welcome Stellantis French designed 4 platforms with thermal runaway problems
 

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Stellantis picks site for battery plant in Italy ex Fix It Again Tony plant
Factory will boost automaker's electrification push

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4 faulty electric French designed platforms and batteries & Fix It Again Tony made assembled batteries, what possibly could go wrong?

Solid state French designed batteries assembled by Tony, sounds like a real solid winning formula.





Spyshot - Fiat 500XXLe is moving onto the French designed RAM shared Stallantis new biggy XXL platform, with triple AAAXXLe Fiat assembled battery packs?

4 platform costs $30 billions, poor ole Jeep & Ram profits will be paying subsidising all this for years to come.
 

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Stellantis picks site for battery plant in Italy ex Fix It Again Tony plant
Factory will boost automaker's electrification push

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4 faulty electric French designed platforms and batteries & Fix It Again Tony made assembled batteries, what possibly could go wrong?

Solid state French designed batteries assembled by Tony, sounds like a real solid winning formula.





Spyshot - Fiat 500XXLe is moving onto the French designed RAM shared Stallantis new biggy XXL platform, with triple AAAXXLe Fiat assembled battery packs?

4 platform costs $30 billions, poor ole Jeep & Ram profits will be paying subsidising all this for years to come.
I would take something like that little fart in a minute, minus some of the mods of course but it does look fun other than Fix It Again Tony's reliability snags. :)
 

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Chrysler: "Clean technology for a new generation of families." Little was said about Chrysler, which in recent years has sold only minivans in the U.S. Its slogan indicates that it will focus on spacious models on the STLA Large EV platform – but not necessarily vans.

Their eTagline for Chrysler should be "hey, we are still here" 😂🤣
 

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Meh...Chrysler is doing fine...the 300 sells just as well as the Avalon and the Pacifica is the #2 minivan behind the Odyssey...all they really need is a mid sized FWD 2 row crossover and that'll complete the DJCR showroom
 

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Psssssst. Nobody cares.

Needless to say, it looks like they are further along on their EV platform development than they have been given credit for. I do like the modularity of it.
People may not care, however, there just is no capacity at this time, that capacity has to come from somewhere. Then there is the issue of chemistry and patents, etc, etc, who is going to make the money based on what technology goes into the vehicles?
 

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LOL

Just ask any motor mechanic what they think of electrical problems in French cars, they will tell you they are riddled with them, they will be riddled with thermal runaway problems, Opel's will be going up in smoke again.

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Californian tinderbox at the moment will welcome Stellantis French designed 4 platforms with thermal runaway problems
French? Aren't they all German cars built on "GM IP" lol
 
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