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October 6, 2021

The development of vehicles like the 9,000-pound GMC Hummer EV and 6,500-pound Ford F-150 Lightning are seen by some as a win for fighting climate change, with the potential to convert the large population of truck-loving Americans.

In the U.S., enormous vehicles are largely to blame for increasing death counts.

Over the decades, as almost every other technology has gotten smaller, from laptops to cell phones, cars keep getting bigger and more dangerous. Now, SUVs and light trucks are so large that they spur comparisons to World War II tanks and complaints that they’ve outgrown garages. As they have expanded in size, they’ve also become heavier. Between 2000 and 2019, the average weight of vehicles involved in a fatal crash increased by 11%. One new GMC Hummer EV, for example, exceeds the Brooklyn Bridge's 3-tone weight limit by 50%. Larger and heavier vehicles tend to have longer stopping distances, and hit with greater impact on collision.
 

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One new GMC Hummer EV, for example, exceeds the Brooklyn Bridge's 3-tone weight limit by 50%.

A Hummer EV model weighs in at 9,000 pounds? There goes that future Miata purchase...









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American vehicles are just following population trends. After a year of sitting at home munching snacks, we're heavier and fatter than ever. So it takes more beef to tote more beef.

And of course we haven't yet recovered from globaloney cooling, so globaloney warming will have to wait its turn.
 

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Vehicles should be taxed by weight........
 
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Road wear and tear. The heavier the vehicle, the more damage it causes. That's what tabs and gas taxes are supposed to be paying for. (Also why diesel tax is higher than gas, to cover big rig wear and tear) They're going to have to replace gas tax with EV's paying zero.
 

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Vehicles should be taxed by weight........
No, they should not. Vehicles should be taxed once, by price at point of sale. They have alreAndy been taxed to death by the time they get to the lot. How many paychecks do you think it takes to get a vehicle to a dealer lot? Taxes on the steel in the tires , the ropes in the tires, the chemicals in the tires, the rubber in the tires, the logistics it took to get those tires to the vehicle , all the paychecks on that supply chain, the computers, same story… all the components… Before taxes on materials, plants, equipment, property taxes on the equipment, taxes on energy, taxes on benefits to everyone on the supply chain?


Think about it. By the time it gets to the Lot, tax broads should be paying you to take it home.
 

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I can't read the article....

So I must ask in ignorance...Is there a mention of the Rivian?....That little pig ain't light either; 8,364lbs (give or take a couple pounds).
 

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No, they should not. Vehicles should be taxed once, by price at point of sale. They have alreAndy been taxed to death by the time they get to the lot. How many paychecks do you think it takes to get a vehicle to a dealer lot? Taxes on the steel in the tires , the ropes in the tires, the chemicals in the tires, the rubber in the tires, the logistics it took to get those tires to the vehicle , all the paychecks on that supply chain, the computers, same story… all the components… Before taxes on materials, plants, equipment, property taxes on the equipment, taxes on energy, taxes on benefits to everyone on the supply chain?


Think about it. By the time it gets to the Lot, tax broads should be paying you to take it home.

Yes, in my state when a vehicle is sold to another person or company, sales tax is collected again on the sale price. So a vehicle can be taxed repeatedly with a sales tax.
 

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Road wear and tear. The heavier the vehicle, the more damage it causes. That's what tabs and gas taxes are supposed to be paying for. (Also why diesel tax is higher than gas, to cover big rig wear and tear) They're going to have to replace gas tax with EV's paying zero.

While I understand your reasoning, but because it is heavy doesn’t mean it would be driven much more than a lighter weight vehicle (which could be driven five or ten times as many miles as the heavier vehicle) and cause more damage.
 

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On the other hand, people weren't exactly going all-in on the Spark and Volt. GM has signaled for years it's getting serious about EV production. The Hummer says that they are actually serious. Stuff that was developed for this truck is going to wind up influencing research & design for its other cars and trucks.Kodi nox
 
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