The Lucid Gravity for the win, I can sort of see why they went that way, packaging, performance and such. One commentor stated that the Vistiq might make a better comparo... hmmm.

 

The Vistiq in some ways is better than Escalade IQ. For example, Vistiq Is better driver’s vehicle than the Escalade IQ. It’s quicker than the IQ as well with a 0-60 time of 3.7 while the IQ gets to 60 in 4.6 seconds. The Vistiq is a better value.

 

The Cadillac is everything that is wrong with BEV’s. Sure it’s luxurious but the size and weight of it is comical at this point. It weighs over 9000lbs which is 3000lbs more than the Lucid and its performance is not impressive at all unless you are comparing it vs its weight. Its real life range is the same as the Lucid despite the massive battery pack.

 

the size and weight of it is comical at this point.

I walked to lunch today and saw a black Escalade ESV. My exact thought was: "That thing is ridiculous." I realize that they make a ton of money on each one they sell, but I do not see how that is building their brand with a wider audience.

 

I mean GM and Cadillac needs to relaize and understand their nameplate means nothing today, they cant expect people to pay 10k more for a far lesser product, and to me looking at the 2 of these vehicles the choice is pretty easy to me at least. Tesla sells because of it's insane performance, GM if you leave that out you will be nothing but an after thought in the EV game, you cant charge outrageous prices and then give far less then your competition, you will 150% fail if that is your strategy! People do not buy EV cars to be planet friendly, spare me the nonsense and fake virtue signaling about anyone buying these products to help save the planet!

 

I’m sorry, but that article smacks like a typical car and driver bias. To me they’re comparing apples to oranges, yes the Cadillac is way too heavy but it’s more of a traditional SUV compared to an almost wagon. I think they wrote the article as if they were comparing two sports cars. and in that vain of course they’re going to pick the Lucid because it’s quicker and handles better but it’s also a smaller vehicle. Personally I think the Escalade looks much better than the Gravity and in this class I don’t think people are worried about their gigantic SUV can’t go 0 to 60 in under five seconds and go around the corner at 100 miles an hour.

 

Are there any published sales numbers for these two vehicles? Comparos are great, but which sells more?

 

GM needs to get that battery weight down, which I expect will come with the next gen battery chemistry.

I get why C&D gave the win to the Lucid - nice interior, better performance, etc.. But for me the Lucid looks like a minivan and loses because of that. Not that I'm ever going to be in the market for something the size of these, but I'd be very happy with the Escalade's beautiful looks inside and out - not a whiff of minivan in the Cadillac's looks. While I do like strong acceleration, I'm fine with the 0-60 time of the Escalade as I'm not buying something in this class to scare the crap out of my 7 passengers with hard acceleration.

 

Yup. the Lucid is a vastly superior machine, but I could never be seen driving one.

 

The Cadillac Vistiq would be a better comparison, but IIRC, the Platinum versions are not out yet.

 

Walked around an Escalade IQ last weeknd; it was actually smaller dimensionally than I thought it’d be.

Then again: I’m piloting 21” more in wheelbase, daily.

 

Monstrous tires though - I love them. The tires on the ICE Escalade have always looked to small - these huge tires are in better proportion to the vehicle, but their size really strikes me when I stand next to them.

 

The Lucid looks like a minivan, granted a badass minivan, but still very minivan-esque. And I can attest; the Escalade IQ is DROP DEAD GORGEOUS in real life. To me, they're in different leagues. $142K for an Escalade is obscene, but I guess ridiculous prices are the norm now.

This line was brutal: "VERDICT: A better car to be picked up in at the airport than to drive every day."

 

It’s taken FOREVER but we can finally say the Slade has Range Rover status. The few faults it has doesn’t matter. It’s the more desirable vehicle period.

 

Vistiq & Gravity are also in the same size segment/class. Escalade is another segment entirely.

 

This comparison of two very different vehicles targeted at very different customers is of not much value. As 61BelAir pointed out, let us see who wins the sales race.

 

The 1961 thru 1967 Lincoln Continental convertibles weighed in at approximately 3 tons, 6,000 pounds, got 8 - 9 mpg of premium gasoline, and had much less passenger and cargo space than the Escalade IQ. Maybe C&D in the 1960s compared these Lincolns to the contemporary Mercedes-Benz 220 and complained that the Lincolns were not as fuel efficient as the Mercedes.

Aside from it's obviously much taller height, larger wheels (22 vs 15) and ground clearance, the Escalade's footprint is smaller than the Grand Safari. More of an observation from me...as massive as the Escalade appears, I was surprised when comparing it's dimensions with the Grand Safari, which, in my recollection, never seemed that big. Heck, the GM A-body wagons of the era were longer than the Escalade (215.4" vs 211.9"). I wouldn't have guessed that!

I'm not sure finding the most extreme examples of oversized land barges in automotive history exactly disproves my point that a single person driving the Escalade ESV in a crowded urban setting is ridiculous. It's the automotive equivalent of obese women dressing like Taylor Swift. Let's just not.

 

My point was C&D's choice of vehicles to compare is questionable. The most important judge of the Cadillac Escalade IQ is the marketplace, not C&D. It will be interesting to see how the sales numbers play out a year from now.

 

IC & BE vehicles make the same level of noise above 20 MPH; hence the Gov't mandate on BE noise / musical emitters below 20 MPH; it's all tire & wind noise above that. In fact, many BE's make more noise at sub-10 MPH speeds due to that very same noise emitter. Of course there are exceptions : modified exhausts, Mustang GTs, Charger EV with Fratzonic 'exhaust'...

 

I do agree there's not much of a difference above 20 mph, but in a city there is a lot of stop and go, probably spending more time under 20 mph than above. And don't forget to take into account hills in a city.

Oslo is a notably smaller city than NYC so perhaps an unfair comparison***. I attributed the difference in noise level to two primary things other than city size. One is the buildings themselves - NYC streets are deep canyons of hard glass, metal and stone that trap and reflect back sounds. Oslo must have a six story limit, letting sound escape and the buildings are more contoured, probably helping to dissipate the sound somewhat. And the second is there is simply less sound being generated in the first place due to BEV's.

*** But I'd say my local city (that is smaller than Oslo) is a lot noisier and most buildings are less than six stories

And I'm not one of these "everything in Europe is better" people. But from a sound perspective Oslo wins.

 

Lucid looks like a minivan, not the same class as the Escalade......

 

 

The closer comparison is Vistiq vs Gravity.

 

Or… Lucid has no competitor to the Escalade IQ. 😁

 

I had a unique opportunity over the weekend, 2-day, out of town soccer trip; 625 total miles in an Escalade IQ.

We left 100% state of charge, early Saturday morning, topped up to 80% about 150 miles in, at a Rivian fast-charger ($34.00) this was our bathroom/breakfast stop, and gave us enough range, to not worry about charging Saturday evening, or Sunday morning, as we had to go to another city nearby for Sunday's match. We had just enough charge to make it back to the same Rivian fast-charger on the way home and charged just enough ($61.00) to make it the rest of the way home, with a little bit of cushion (8%). Counting the full recharge once we got back to home-base, it would take about $40.00 at home charging rates to return the Escalade IQ to 100% we left with.

625 miles, approximately 315 kWh total energy consumed; and $135.00 total spend; $0.216 per mile.

We could have made the trip in an ICE truck for less than $90.00; $0.144 per mile or took an ICE CUV for about $60.00; $0.096 per mile; either would have only needed one top=up to make the trip.

We have another trip next month, except it'll be over 1,000 miles in 3-days, nice ride aside, we are looking at driving something different.

 

I forget - what state are you in?