Chevy does have a good lead over the Scion, only problem is that the 2.4 is a year away.
outside of the giant glass roof, what exactly do you get more out of with the tC?Originally posted by giagastormer@Jul 6 2004, 06:33 PM
I would take the Tc over the Cobalt any day of the week, and I am a huge GM fan, now that says something. You get a sh!tload of car for the money in the Tc, there is no denying that.
outside of the giant glass roof, what exactly do you get more out of with the tC? [/b][/quote]Originally posted by bigals87z28+Jul 6 2004, 07:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigals87z28 @ Jul 6 2004, 07:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-giagastormer@Jul 6 2004, 06:33 PM
I would take the Tc over the Cobalt any day of the week, and I am a huge GM fan, now that says something. You get a sh!tload of car for the money in the Tc, there is no denying that.
You are right, we will just have to wait until final prices are announced for the Cobalt. Speaking of final prices, this thing goes on sale this fall, shouldnt prices have been released yet?Originally posted by Rex Raider@Jul 6 2004, 08:23 PM
We're going to have to see exact pricing for both models before we can really make a direct comparison.
by the only measurable we have (initial quality rankings), the scions actually aren't very reliable (compared with toyotas). so that won't help! unless of course people assume they're high quality because they're pseudo-toyotas (which they likely will!). price will sell these things though.Originally posted by gmwsag@Jul 6 2004, 07:21 PM
The tC will get sales, because it is just a 'sportier Toyota Celica/Camry' and it is also reliable...
this is why i'm very curious to see the prices... i'll be shocked if the MSRP for a cobalt with all the same options is anywhere near $16,400. a cavalier LS coupe list price is $16,470, while a cavalier LS sport coupe starts at $17,975, with few of the really sweet tC goodies. GM has stated that the cobalt is moving upmarket (and upprice)... so i'm not holding my breath that it'll be tC specs AND tC price. should be a better car, but GM's gonna make you pay for that 'betterness'!Originally posted by bigals87z28@Jul 6 2004, 08:38 PM
The Cobalt should offer everything that the Scion offers for about the same price with more power.
Yep. Don't compare the equipment level of a base cobalt to the Tc. And don't leave out inevitable discounts and rebates for the Cobalt, or jacked up "accessory" dealer pricing with the Scion.Originally posted by Rex Raider@Jul 6 2004, 03:23 PM
We're going to have to see exact pricing for both models before we can really make a direct comparison.
as a rule chev offers value (lotsa car, little money), but right now, in the cavalier, they offer little car for little money. value, yes, if you prize a great engine with good power and little else... but i think many people would rather have a whole lot more going for their car than the engine.Originally posted by Ming@Jul 6 2004, 08:52 PM
I can't imagine the Tc will offer more value for the money - that's Chevy territory.