[boblutzfan]

The anticipation of these new vehicles (Aura and Outlook) is bringing out the worst and best of the members of this site. It is like we are waiting for the last chance for a future for the brand or something....

Oh yeah, we are. None the less, we can all be a little less worked up until we see the full pictures of both vehicles tomorrow night.

 

[kool_zx3]

I wouldn't say he was gushing....and I wouldn't say your'e complaining. It's a difference of opinion, nothing more. And certainly nothing to spit about. Just because you don't like it and someone else does, it does not make them a GM-lover or GM-butt kisser and it doesn't make you a Japanese car lover either. Wow. It's just a car people!

That's all my post was for, i said why i hate the grill and made my case why i am not a fan of it and then i am told to move along because i don't like it. I am not the only one who is not a fan of the grill, why am i singled out?

It pisses me off that i can make my opinion known on WHY i am not a fan of certain things. I am sorry to tell everyone not everyone is going to like it and be prepared for some negative opinions. Seems like people MUST like it because there is a GM badge on the door.

I even said the rest of it looked good, it was just the grill i didn't like...... Big deal atleast i am objective.

I dunno why lately all the GM faithful have been ganging up on people that say something bad about the new saturn's, It's like saturn is GM's last chance...

 

[nsap]

That's all my post was for, i said why i hate the grill and made my case why i am not a fan of it and then i am told to move along because i don't like it. I am not the only one who is not a fan of the grill, why am in singled out?

It pisses me off that i can make my opinion known on WHY i am not a fan of certain things. I am sorry to tell everyone not everyone is going to like it and be prepared for some negative opinions. Seems like people MUST like it because there is a GM badge on the door.

I see nothing wrong with posting negative comments about it. I just don't want to come to a thread and see 4-5 posts by the same person saying they don't like something about it. Say it, move on. It's quite simple.

 

[kool_zx3]

I see nothing wrong with posting negative comments about it. I just don't want to come to a thread and see 4-5 posts by the same person saying they don't like something about it. Say it, move on. It's quite simple.

I came to clarify my post on why i never liked it for the people that asked why.... Admiral asked why i wasn't a fan of it, i gave my answer.

 

[beelzebub]

The anticipation of these new vehicles (Aura and Outlook) is bringing out the worst and best of the members of this site. It is like we are waiting for the last chance for a future for the brand or something....

Oh yeah, we are. None the less, we can all be a little less worked up until we see the full pictures of both vehicles tomorrow night.

Tomorrow night? I thought it was wednesday morning around 11 am..

Anyways, speaking of best and worst, its do or die for Saturn. Last chance IMO.. Expect a cessation of this brand if things dont work out (in few years ofcourse)

 

[Quickening]

The anticipation of these new vehicles (Aura and Outlook) is bringing out the worst and best of the members of this site. It is like we are waiting for the last chance for a future for the brand or something....

Oh yeah, we are. None the less, we can all be a little less worked up until we see the full pictures of both vehicles tomorrow night.

Exactly.

This looks pretty edgy, I like it.

EDIT: w00tz 1000th post for me

 

[VibenPontiac]

I dunno why lately all the GM faithful have been ganging up on people that say something bad about the new saturn's, It's like saturn is GM's last chance...

I'm guessing its because almost every single story coming from the media is a negative one, most of them aren't even new, just re-hashing a story from the week before. So when a new product that we've heard is "da bomb" gets some criticism (rightly or wrongly - I'm not judging your opinion here) it sets some of us off a little.

All we want is some positive news for a change

 

[8>4]

Considering the name of this site, why does everybody get mad at people being excited about NEW GM products. Its not like we are sitting around gushing about a 94 Beretta or a 97 Grand Am. GM is finally starting to make an attempt to make more competitive cars and GM fans are pumped to see them. And then people will come and say that toyotas and hondas are better and others will get mad. Lets just skip it this time.

 

[boblutzfan]

Tomorrow night? I thought it was wednesday morning around 11 am..

Anyways, speaking of best and worst, its do or die for Saturn. Last chance IMO.. Expect a cessation of this brand if things dont work out (in few years ofcourse)

The official debut is on Wednesday morning at 11:00 AM. Usually, the embargo is lifted at 12:01 AM the day of the debut. That would be tomorrow night. I am just assuming that will be the case. Saturn is releasing a few images tomorrow if you sign up with your cell phone. I have done that, but have no way of getting images from my phone to the computer. Hopefully someone does and those can be posted tomorrow.

 

[TaHoE]

The fusion and Zephyr/MKX grill looks great in real life and great in pictures. They flow alot better with the vehicles their on and not jammed in grey painted inserts like the outlook seems to be.

...and the KOOL-aid flows freely beneath the bridge of Ford.

Come one dude you can't be serious? You are judging how a grille "flows" with a car's design, yet you have not seen the entire vehicle. You say that the MKX grille looks GREAT in real life, and GREAT in pictures? I can't believe how blind some people really are. I too am not a fan of the plastic, but I won't brashly judge something based on an image the size of an index card.

 

[kool_zx3]

I'm guessing its because almost every single story coming from the media is a negative one, most of them aren't even new, just re-hashing a story from the week before. So when a new product that we've heard is "da bomb" gets some criticism (rightly or wrongly - I'm not judging your opinion here) it sets some of us off a little.

All we want is some positive news for a change

I am sure it will be a great vehicle for Saturn and GM, i am not doubting that at all (same goes fo the aura) i just don't like the grill and i posted that in a relaxed manner earlier. The rest looks fine though..... Aslong as GM didn't screw anything up. I am not mad at anyone for liking it, that's their choice and I have no problem with that.

 

[kool_zx3]

nevermind

 

[GM-10]

How can anyone say one way or another with the picture of not even the whole front end....?

Just a grille?

Nobody should get bent out of shape one way or another.

 

[ByTheLake]

Wow, I really like it, at least what I can see of it. I like where Saturn is going.

Really looking forward to full pics.

 

[saturnsteve]

Have you seen it? How about the interior?

I have seen two of them at management meetings, the interior is really nice.:yup:

 

[saturnsteve]

The bumper is integrated into the front facia. Saturnsteve - do you know what time tomorrow the cell phone pics will be sent out?

From what we have been told around 10-11am eastern time. Wait till you guys see the new VUE concept too!

 

[boblutzfan]

From what we have been told around 10-11am eastern time. Wait till you guys see the new VUE concept too!

Cool - thanks for the info.

So what can you tell us about the interior of the Outlook?

Also is what we have been told about XE and XR trim levels true?

XE = base
XR = up level

Thanks.

 

[99Hugger]

Reminds me of a Audi Q7

 

[saturnsteve]

Cool - thanks for the info.

So what can you tell us about the interior of the Outlook?

Also is what we have been told about XE and XR trim levels true?

XE = base
XR = up level

Thanks.

The trim levels is correct. The interior is nicer than the SKY. You guys will love it! The trim levels will also apply to the AURA too. The REDLINE AURA will come out after the first of '07. It will be at least 325 hp:yup:

 

[boblutzfan]

Reminds me of a Audi Q7

It is hard to say - but I see some similarities - if you can say that only seeing a front quarter view. I am dying for some more pics. I can't wait to get the cell phone pics tomorrow... less than one day.