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Nothing? Really thought someone would have liked this one, being a manual transmission and all!!
 

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Haha bad day man! I LOVE this car! I'd love to find one someday. It's so hard to find many of these older GM's in good shape... forget finding one with a 5-speed! I think that it's great how daring GM was with the styling... quite sharp for the day!

Without exaggerating, I think that that is a very attractive car. It has excellent proportions for a large FWD coupe. I love the silhouette. Long, low, and wide. GM really had something with this car.
 

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Haha bad day man! I LOVE this car! I'd love to find one someday. It's so hard to find many of these older GM's in good shape... forget finding one with a 5-speed! I think that it's great how daring GM was with the styling... quite sharp for the day!

Without exaggerating, I think that that is a very attractive car. It has excellent proportions for a large FWD coupe. I love the silhouette. Long, low, and wide. GM really had something with this car.
I posted it yesterday....sigh!! LOL, no I just for some reason loved this review, due to it being such a rare tranny combo, I will see if I can find that calais road race report, it was on the last disc i extracted!!
 

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Very intriguing vehicle. I had always wondered why they had to ruin the package with such hideous wheels. That Twin Cam was certainly pumping out quite a bit of power for those years. GM really put out some overlooked things. With the Z34's 3.4 to the Beretta GTU 2.3 HO, they were ahead of the game in the late 80's and early 90's, but some how, just let go of a good thing (typical GM).
 

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Very intriguing vehicle. I had always wondered why they had to ruin the package with such hideous wheels. That Twin Cam was certainly pumping out quite a bit of power for those years. GM really put out some overlooked things. With the Z34's 3.4 to the Beretta GTU 2.3 HO, they were ahead of the game in the late 80's and early 90's, but some how, just let go of a good thing (typical GM).
my folks bought a new 92 Olds Cutlas International w/ same motor, it was a oil leaker!

I liked the gray one the host was next to.
That was simply the Euro 3.1
 

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I like these old Motorweek videos.
 

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Quarter in 16.1 sec? A Reatta, which I'm pretty sure is roughly the same weight, did that with a pushrod 3800, with 165 hp, not 200+, and with a 4 speed auto :confused:

I've always thought the 3.4L Twin Dual Cam was a waste
 

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Quarter in 16.1 sec? A Reatta, which I'm pretty sure is roughly the same weight, did that with a pushrod 3800, with 165 hp, not 200+, and with a 4 speed auto :confused:

I've always thought the 3.4L Twin Dual Cam was a waste
I agree. Also they have to be a pain in the ass to work on.

When I was going to the tech college two guys had this engine, one in a lumina and the other in a cutlass. We dyno'd the cutlass it put ~190hp down to the ground.
 

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I agree. Also they have to be a pain in the ass to work on.

When I was going to the tech college two guys had this engine, one in a lumina and the other in a cutlass. We dyno'd the cutlass it put ~190hp down to the ground.
Not horrible considering output was rated at 210 i believe.
 

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Let me rephrase my praise...

They made some great power for the times, but the reliability of the Twin Cam engines (2.4 and 3.4) and Quad 4's were not especially comforting.
 

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I've heard that they indeed are a pain...timing belts on an interference engine, and like the alternator is close to the engine cradle so you like have to like loosen the motor from a couple mounts and jack/lift it up. GM must have had a surplus considering they kept using it past '95, when the 3800 Series II came out
 

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I actually had one of these back in the day. I had a hard time finding one. Most of the dealers kept telling me there was no such thing as a 5-speed Lumina. Finally found a dealer that had one; black w/ gray interior. It was a fun car to drive. Definitely unique.
 

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I actually had one of these back in the day. I had a hard time finding one. Most of the dealers kept telling me there was no such thing as a 5-speed Lumina. Finally found a dealer that had one; black w/ gray interior. It was a fun car to drive. Definitely unique.
You certainly don't see them often. Why you get rid of yours?
 
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