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Review: Chevy Impala Police 9C1/9C3 For 2012: "Better, Faster, Stronger"

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Review: Chevy Impala Police 9C1/9C3 For 2012

POLICE FLEET magazine; April 2012

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If I hadn't read the article closely, I'd have thought that it was written by GM's own media department. These guys are absolutely creaming themselves over this car. It does, in fact, make me want to take a civilian version out for a test drive. Usually police testing is conservative on acceleration times, though, and I'd expect low 6s to 60 on this car from the car magazines, should they bother to test it.

I do wonder how getting some of the police bits on a civilian Impala would work, though...
 
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Re: Review: Chevy Impala Police 9C1/9C3 For 2012: "Better, Faster, Stronger"

If I hadn't read the article closely, I'd have thought that it was written by GM's own media department. These guys are absolutely creaming themselves over this car. It does, in fact, make me want to take a civilian version out for a test drive. Usually police testing is conservative on acceleration times, though, and I'd expect low 6s to 60 on this car from the car magazines, should they bother to test it.

I do wonder how getting some of the police bits on a civilian Impala would work, though...
don't waste your time. If your driving a G8--you'd likely hate the Impala. Great engine/trans but everyting else sucks.
 
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What happened to the Caprice? Did GM give up on that already?
Nope, the Impala has been updated with the 3.6 now. Just a regular evaluation imo.

If they did drop the Caprice no one would notice. I've only seen one on duty and the other one was pics from a member here.
 
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If they are going to use the Bionic Man tag line please get it right. "Better, Stronger, Faster" Nerd hissy fit over.


That review is more affirmation that the business end of this car really was improved a great deal.
 
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If they are going to use the Bionic Man tag line please get it right. "Better, Stronger, Faster" Nerd hissy fit over.


That review is more affirmation that the business end of this car really was improved a great deal.
Better...stronger...faster. You beat me to it. I own the complete DVD collection. In 1975, if you were six years old, Steve Austin was pretty much your God.
 
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The only Impala version I would rock would be one spec'd for police duty...I find them cool for some reason. Same with the Charger. I like the steelies.
 
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The only Impala version I would rock would be one spec'd for police duty...I find them cool for some reason. Same with the Charger. I like the steelies.

:yup::yup::yup:
 
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Sounds good. Now discount these suckaz like the 200 and you'll sell buckeloads of them, even if CR calls it a junker.
 
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Having driven the new Caprice on a race track, on an EVOC course, and on the street, I can tell you it performs phenomenally in every measurable way. It rides firmly, it's very roomy, and it's very comfortable. Like many, my biggest gripe is that it's made in Australia and not North America. This is a foreign car. And it shouldn't be. GM should be building it along side the Camaro as well as some other zeta-based vehicles (Chevelle, El Camino, Impala, Nomad).
 
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Interesting article. The sidebar on the 3.6L engine mentions that lower powered versions of the 3.6L did not have VVT on both intake an exhaust, and cites that as a reason for less power, which I had never heard before (the gains from ~250 to ~300 were generally always attributed to SIDI and the higher CR it allowed). this article from 2003 states that the 3.6L varies cam timing on both intake and exhaust, so I'm inclined to believe the author made an error there. Still an interesting read about the new Impala's improvements.
 
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Interesting article. The sidebar on the 3.6L engine mentions that lower powered versions of the 3.6L did not have VVT on both intake an exhaust, and cites that as a reason for less power, which I had never heard before (the gains from ~250 to ~300 were generally always attributed to SIDI and the higher CR it allowed). this article from 2003 states that the 3.6L varies cam timing on both intake and exhaust, so I'm inclined to believe the author made an error there. Still an interesting read about the new Impala's improvements.
The HFV6 which debuted in the 2004 VZ Commodore, came in 2 specs: The 175kW with variable valve timing on the intake only, and the 195kW which have variable timing on both the inlet and outlet valves.

The 195 was fitted to the SV6 models and Calais only, backed by either 6 Spd Manual (SV6 only) or 5 speed Auto.
Poverty Spec 175 version ran the 4 spd Auto right up until introduction of the Direct injection (SIDI) 3.0 and 3.6 in 2009. ;)

There were a few little errors though. Elizabeth is in South Australia, not New South Wales, and Holden is not the "performance arm" of GM Australia. :D
 
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I disagree the qualty standards are the same and the engine package is identical. There are not huge difference between them. It's generally "bolt on" features such as coolers, and heady duty suspension parts. When the first generation impalla was created it was designed with extra durability in the engine cradle that was also applied to the civilian verson as regular productions. They DO NOT design police packages to be largley different from regular production. The cost would never justify it, instead they use bolt ons for extra durabilty that often make them simular to taxi cab models.
 
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My buddy has a 2012 silver LT with moonroof and no rear spolier for the entire week. We spent the day in it Sunday. Compared to my 2008 3900 LT is feels like a totally different car. There is no way on earth the civilian Impalas for 2012 have the same brakes that the 2006-2011 models had. They feel much more powerful and fade resistant. The steering also feels much firmer and heavier and the suspension is firmer but amazingly not harsher on bumpy roads. The other surprise was how refined this car was. My 2008 is pretty quiet but the 2012 was Buick LaCrosse quiet! Some of this is from the new refined engine and tranny but I'm wondering if Chevy is using quiet steel on the Impalas now becuase it was really impressive in this area.

We averaged 28.1 driving around most of the day with a few stops and most of the miles on the open road and several full throttle runs. This DOHC engine when combined with the fuel economy 2.44 gears does not impress from 0-20. In fact both the 3900 and 3500 feel quicker. But that ends when the revs start climbing. This thing really moves once past about 20 MPH. Passing power has to be experienced to be believed. 0-60 times are far quicker than the reported 7.5 seconds from this test. My 2008 does the 0-60 run in 7 seconds or so and this car feels way faster once past 20. We clocked it at about 6.2 seconds and that was with but 800 miles on the clock. Also noted was that Bluetooth in this car worked better than previous models with much better voice recognition and now shows up on the indicator when in use. The radio is still crap in this car. With the moonroof open you litterally have to turn it up all the way. It is one of the weakest sound system I have ever ecountered along with my 2008. My other buddies 2006 LTZ with the Bose is better but still nothing like a Taurus or Chrysler 300 sound system. It's also hard to believe that this car is still not available with a USB port, telescoping wheel, Bluetooth streaming or automatic climate control to name a few. The leather package is also gone as an LT option so now you have to pony up for the rather expensive LTZ to get that and thr suspension is even harder on that car, something I could never live with in crappy city streets on a day to day basis.
 
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My buddy has a 2012 silver LT with moonroof and no rear spolier for the entire week. We spent the day in it Sunday. Compared to my 2008 3900 LT is feels like a totally different car. There is no way on earth the civilian Impalas for 2012 have the same brakes that the 2006-2011 models had. They feel much more powerful and fade resistant. The steering also feels much firmer and heavier and the suspension is firmer but amazingly not harsher on bumpy roads. The other surprise was how refined this car was. My 2008 is pretty quiet but the 2012 was Buick LaCrosse quiet! Some of this is from the new refined engine and tranny but I'm wondering if Chevy is using quiet steel on the Impalas now becuase it was really impressive in this area.

We averaged 28.1 driving around most of the day with a few stops and most of the miles on the open road and several full throttle runs. This DOHC engine when combined with the fuel economy 2.44 gears does not impress from 0-20. In fact both the 3900 and 3500 feel quicker. But that ends when the revs start climbing. This thing really moves once past about 20 MPH. Passing power has to be experienced to be believed. 0-60 times are far quicker than the reported 7.5 seconds from this test. My 2008 does the 0-60 run in 7 seconds or so and this car feels way faster once past 20. We clocked it at about 6.2 seconds and that was with but 800 miles on the clock. Also noted was that Bluetooth in this car worked better than previous models with much better voice recognition and now shows up on the indicator when in use. The radio is still crap in this car. With the moonroof open you litterally have to turn it up all the way. It is one of the weakest sound system I have ever ecountered along with my 2008. My other buddies 2006 LTZ with the Bose is better but still nothing like a Taurus or Chrysler 300 sound system. It's also hard to believe that this car is still not available with a USB port, telescoping wheel, Bluetooth streaming or automatic climate control to name a few. The leather package is also gone as an LT option so now you have to pony up for the rather expensive LTZ to get that and thr suspension is even harder on that car, something I could never live with in crappy city streets on a day to day basis.
I would agree. The 2012 Impala LTZ sitting in my garage is a much improved car over the 2006-2011 models. I had been kicking the tires on a new car to replace a 2001 Impala. I always liked the current generation model and had spent alot of time in a friends 2008 LTZ and liked it as well. I was tired of waiting on the on/off again RWD Chevrolet SS and went ahead and got a 2012 LTZ last month. The motor in it is so smooth and it really books. The ride and handling are much improved also. I would have liked dual zone automatic climate control along with a telescoping steering wheel just as you mention. A USB port on the radio would have also been a nice addition. Then I consider what I paid for a large family friendly sedan in 2012 and can live without those extra toys. If you don't mind a "plain" car you really should test drive it. I think it drives as nice as a Malibu with the 3.6. I did drive an LT model and actually liked the ride in the LTZ with the FE3 better than the FE2 on the LT. Just like 2011 GM HD Trucks all of the Impala improvements happend under skin where they really matter most. It is without a doubt the best W-platform car GM has ever built.
 
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I was by the local Chev dealer yesterday responding to a come-on con. I didn't win the 52" TV, I did "win" what appears to be a fitty cent webcam.

There were four Impalas on the lot. You can still get a bench, BTW. I think I like the LT, it has dual zone and the flip/fold back seat. Delete the wing and you still come out ahead, as they charge $195 for the bench and the wing is a $250 delete IIRC.

What sort of cash on the hood does GM have these days?

I recall with fondness the deal I got on my 2004 Impy. $24,000 sticker, 16 grand out the door. That included about $1500 for GMAC (now ally) financing, which against all logic you were required to carry for only 90 days.
 
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I was by the local Chev dealer yesterday responding to a come-on con. I didn't win the 52" TV, I did "win" what appears to be a fitty cent webcam.

There were four Impalas on the lot. You can still get a bench, BTW. I think I like the LT, it has dual zone and the flip/fold back seat. Delete the wing and you still come out ahead, as they charge $195 for the bench and the wing is a $250 delete IIRC.

What sort of cash on the hood does GM have these days?

I recall with fondness the deal I got on my 2004 Impy. $24,000 sticker, 16 grand out the door. That included about $1500 for GMAC (now ally) financing, which against all logic you were required to carry for only 90 days.
I wonder how awesome-saucy the next Impala will be considering it will have four fightin' cylinders (with E-assist!), cost an extra $4 grand and weigh like 600lbs more. Suddenly the current one looks like a great deal if you consider lbs/hp and base price.
 
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I look at the current Impala like I do a hammer. It's useful, uncomplicated, cheap, and reliable. It's a good-looking, nicely equipped, economical, and safe car for a low price making it a great value, something Ford and Dodge have gone perhaps too upmarket from. The Impala is far from state of the art but with its new drivetrain and revised suspension, it's not what you'd call old tech either. I understand why so many people like it.
 
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Re: Review: Chevy Impala Police 9C1/9C3 For 2012: "Better, Faster, Stronger"

I look at the current Impala like I do a hammer. It's useful, uncomplicated, cheap, and reliable. It's a good-looking, nicely equipped, economical, and safe car for a low price making it a great value, something Ford and Dodge have gone perhaps too upmarket from. The Impala is far from state of the art but with its new drivetrain and revised suspension, it's not what you'd call old tech either. I understand why so many people like it.
Maybe it's a state of limbo the Impala has been in for the past decade. I completely agree with your "hammer" example T'Cal- because it is what it is and that's why it still sells well- but I think it's a double edged sword because as basic and value for money as the Impala is, it's still missing that "wow" factor that some of its competitors provide (albeit, for a much higher price). I know I'm comparing apples and oranges here, but Hyundai developed its Genesis line in only a few years- their current sedan boasts a RWD V6 as well as a potent V8. But it's not special- it doesn't have the spirit and the history like the Impala has. Or, at least, had.

But it's understandable why the Impala always seemed to have an identity crisis. Some people only care about cost and economy and space, regardless of how it looks when it all gets squashed together. Others however, care about performance, refinement and specialty. Proof of this conflict was the last SS, which despite its fine lines and modest V8 powerplant, felt like it was created out of obligation instead of passion- to please the masses and to satisfy the few. But maybe I'm wrong, since that may be the goal in the first place.

I can definitively appreciate the current Impala- but I hate hearing the term associated to it like "making the most of it"- Instead, I'd rather hear "making the best with the most."
 
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It appears there's a $5000 military and $750 USAA discount on some new 2012 Impalas now.