I wouldn't call that a review, more like a features breakdown. But anyway....

Bwahahaha $71K for that? Good luck. I saw not a single useful feature on that thing I can't get on the $15K cheaper Buick Avenir.

 

After watching it with that fresh in my head, I'd have to agree. It's overpriced and the engine Choice even if it's the tried and true 3.6, should have been better. They also need to ditch that "Newton meters of Torque and rounding it up to get a decent number" BS post haste. Even with their supposed "screw ups" I still like the thing.

 

IMO this is the best looking FWD based three row crossover so far. Cadillac did a really nice job of styling this crossover given the limitations of the platform. On the other hand, as stated above, no way in hell I write a $70K check, it's not that good looking nor does it offer anything compelling enough to justify that price. I find it curious that Cadillac has gone back to the more for less value proposition with the CT5 which is by all measures a great car in its class while expecting a premium for the XT6 which is not.

 

The more I see this the more I like it. However, I'm not in the market for a minivan type vehicle.

 

I saw one in the flesh just yesterday. Very handsome. The Sales Lady said they had sold several.

 

I was looking a white one over Sunday at the dealer and thought the same. It is good looking. Still had the plastic all over in it. Like I said above I really like it and all and hope it does well for them.

 

XT4 and XT6 are placeholders. JdN hinted about this in a recent interview. And their successors will be VSS-R-derived CUV (XT6 at least). And Corvette SUV, which will share the platform with XT7.

 

Would you happen to have a link you could share? Did he indicate timing of these VSS-R vehicles?

I was looking a white one over Sunday at the dealer and thought the same. It is good looking. Still had the plastic all over in it. Like I said above I really like it and all and hope it does well for them.

I saw a red sport model very well equipped. One thing that pleased me was the solid feel/sound of the doors closing both front and rear.
I have to say I don't care for the sport trim. I like the polished chrome detail of the Luxury model, though I have yet to see one in the real world.

 

When we talk about VSS-R at this stage it feels like no new information is coming out about the same at all. Instead, it seems like everyone is just linking any new info that trickles out to old VSS-R info. Put more simply, with the decline/demise of Alpha based vehicles and Omega getting shelved for Caddy it seems more than a little likely that VSS-R as it was initially planned is dead. As in stone cold dead.

At this rate I don’t expect to see any truly new rwd vehicles from any GM brand outside of, potentially, a Corvette brand through the next decade. And you could just use Omega to build the Panamera and Cayenne fighters that brand would need at this point.

If Cadillac gets lucky I could see GM letting them piggyback something onto those two products, but I wouldn’t bet on it. I’m beginning to think GM is taking the hi-po toys away from Cadillac long term and giving them to Corvette. Is the real reason JdN left an internal decision to crown a new Corvette brand king while Cadillac chases Volvo and Lexus rather than BMW and Mercedes?

Maybe Lutz has a crystal ball after all.

 

I would kinda agree but the ball has already started to roll with the first model being built on the new architecture though FWD version in VSS-F. We will probably see the CUVs migrating to the platform first since Alpha and Omega are still alive and kicking. It’s no reason for GM to rush models onto the platform. We will continue to see RWD models just more of a mixture between EVs and Ice vehicles.

 

Locally the dealer has 3 on the lot. I popped in to take a look.

Not an exciting vehicle by any stretch but I thought it was quite handsome looking CUV and it should sell just fine. That said - it's got a very XT5 look to it and my question remains why did this take so long?

 

If the XT-line are all place holders, why not make them the best damn place holders ever? Give them better engine options, go all out on the interior and styling. Make people ask "How could they make these better?" then WHAM them with the next gen on VSS-R. For engines, the XT4 should have the 2.0t and 2.7t, the XT5 the 2.7t and 3.0t and the XT6 should get the 3.6t as the standard and only engine.

 

All of those especially the 3.6TT in the XT6 are pipe dreams...there isn't a single trans-axle available to GM today that can handle those levels of power. There are some rumblings of issues w/ the 3.6/9sp combo as is. those motors will tear the 9sp to shreds.

Also, none of those engines are stamped for FWD applications, the hardpoints between a FWD and RWD mounted engine are completely different. Just because a motor is in GM's inventory doesn't necessarily mean it can be used in whatever application they want it to be.

 

They could use the XTS Vsport engine/trans, though it is an older version of the 3.6.

I wonder how well the XT6 will do in the mountains with 6 adults and luggage or a trailer. Our expectations are so different from those of 20 years ago, or even 10.

 

Yes, 20 years ago you had less power. A 2000 Tahoe maxed out around 275hp with a 4sp tranny. The 3.6 in the lighter XT6 has 300.

 

I have a Yukon.. tuned to have as much if not more HP than the 6.2L Denali.. and let me tell U.. if the Escalade had been avail when I bought my Yukon I'd of paid that extra doe with no issue.. and I get mad compliments on my 2015.. many people think its new too. The styling on the K2XX SUVs is hands down the best looking on the road.. all of them. Shoot.. Ford tried to copy the lines of the Yukon for its weird looking utes

 

Time to merge these threads...