Originally posted by SUPERBADD75@Jun 25 2004, 05:55 AM
Oh please...first of all, GM has never claimed it's the best thing since "sliced bread" those are your terms SIR. Second of all, having a objective opinion is one thing, but it seems you've taken that idea to a level all your own. My point is, the majority of the time, it seems your remarks come off more as a bitter child, rather than adult like- with constructive critisim (turns people off and you loose your point).
i'd go read some more of my posts if i were you. for one, i didn't say GM thought it was the greatest, it's the people who post on here that do. as far as taking an objective opinion to another level, what exactly is that other level? pointing out things that i feel are problems for GM is, as i said before, constructive criticism. i work for a dealership that sells GM products, and although i will not say which ones, i will say that our ability to sell these cars determines how much money i get to take home each week. many GM products are not very competitive with similar cars in their segment, and it's not very easy to sell a car that has many shortcomings when compared to its competition. i want GM to make better cars, and when i criticize the ones they build now, this is my outlet to say what i think needs improvement. i will say that there are GMs i don't like (most under the bowtie badge, honestly), but there are many i do like, and think just need refinement (a little swedish company, for example). read what i say in more than just one thread. i'm not always bashing GM, i'm only pointing out flaws that many of you don't see because you're too busy worshiping the ground that Bob Lutz walks on. get over it. GM needs to pay a little more attention to details, and that's where i'm coming from. don't get offended. just take what i say at face value, and if you don't like it, move on. there are a lot more people on here that, like me, criticize GM's shortcomings as well. we all look at things from a different angle, and when you look at all of the differing opinions together, you get a good idea of what the general public is like. we're all different people. we think what we think, and sometimes express it. i won't agree with you or anyone else just so i don't offend someone or turn them off. i'd hazard a guess that people from GM do read this stuff and perhaps they get ideas of what to do to improve upon what they are currently doing, or will in the future. just a thought.
lighten up, it's nothing personal. if you want to have a GM love-in, do it. i'm a little more objective, and if i think GM is screwing up good product, i'll definitely let it be known.
:huh: Dude, Lets understand each other right now. I haven't taken a word you said personal, nor do I get offended when someone has an opinion about GM (good or bad). Furthermore, I'm not a GM fan to the point of where some would say "They can do know wrong" (i'm one of there biggest critic's and watch them very closely) and I certainly don't worship the ground Bob Lutz walks on.
Matter of fact, I still hold the man in question of what his motives are for GM. The only reason I brought anything to your attention (before you explained yourself) was, it seemed your post were hateful torward GM rather than crtitiquing there decision's, thats all! But you responded to me with a bit of a tone and said " sir, I've said this before, and I'll say it again". So please understand, my bringing this to your attention was not to start a flamewar with you, I was just unclear where you stood with GM. Wether it was hate for GM, or disappointment with GM's overall decision making, thats all!
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