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Lindsay Chappell - Automotive News - June 6, 2008 - 3:26 pm ET

Toyota is considering a plan to add production of its strong-selling Camry to its under-utilized pickup, SUV and minivan plant in Princeton, Ind., a supplier source says.

Mike Goss, spokesman for Toyota Motor Engineering & Manufacturing North America, declined to confirm the plan. But he added, "We are looking at a lot of things to balance production."

The Camry, which sold 51,291 units in May, is assembled in Georgetown, Ky., and also at a dedicated assembly line at Subaru of Indiana Automotive Inc. in Lafayette, Ind.

Falling sales of the Tundra full-sized pickup has cut production at Toyota's two-shift Princeton plant. Built at two U.S. plants, the Tundra declined 31.5 percent in May. Princeton also assembles the Toyota Sienna minivan and the Toyota Sequoia full-sized SUV.
 

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No matter how you feel about Toyota, the fact that they can even consider building a front wheel drive car in a truck plant is simply amazing.
 

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How is that for your rick. Trucks sales down at toyota no problem build camry there. What does rick do? he shuts down plants because he only has two competitive cars. CTS and malibu and that is it.
 

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How is that for your rick. Trucks sales down at toyota no problem build camry there. What does rick do he shuts down plants because he only has two competitive cars. CTS and malibu and that is it.
Toss in a 33 year low for GM stock, an 8% rise in oil and the threat of a strike in Canada from the CAW and I'm willing to bet that Mr. Wagoner is going to have trouble sleeping tonight.
 

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Toss in a 33 year low for GM stock, an 8% rise in oil and the threat of a strike in Canada from the CAW and I'm willing to bet that Mr. Wagoner is going to have trouble sleeping tonight.
I hope that he gets no sleep. That man needs to go and GM needs to get some of those toyota guys in to teach them how to produce fwd car next to trucks and how to make cars. How about getting some of those european engineers not korean once. Rick is going to give us Small korean cars. How about let european engineers do that. He needs to go. IF you added all epsilon cars they did not out sell camry. And if you looked at retail sales it looks very bad.
 

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How is that for your rick. Trucks sales down at toyota no problem build camry there. What does rick do? he shuts down plants because he only has two competitive cars. CTS and malibu and that is it.
Uh...that's a TOUCH over simplified.

First of all, that plant (Princeton, Indiana) has two assembly lines.

The Camry will all but certainly be built on the Minivan assembly line not the truck assembly line. If it is built on the truck assembly line it will have to be completely reworked.

You can't build a body on frame and unibody on the same line efficiently.

If it were possible to build cars on truck assembly lines...don't you think they would be building the aforementioned Malibu at Oshawa truck?
 

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It certainly helps when your plants are only 12 years old (TMMI) and not 43 (Oshawa Truck). I'd be willing to bet TMMI was built to be flexible from the start. Oshawa, not so much.
 

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It certainly helps when your plants are only 12 years old (TMMI) and not 43 (Oshawa Truck). I'd be willing to bet TMMI was built to be flexible from the start. Oshawa, not so much.
That is why you invest money to upgrade them. You do not keep them for 43 years with out changing them. So stop making excuses for gm bad decisions.
 

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I hope that he gets no sleep. That man needs to go and GM needs to get some of those toyota guys in to teach them how to produce fwd car next to trucks and how to make cars. How about getting some of those european engineers not korean once. Rick is going to give us Small korean cars. How about let european engineers do that. He needs to go. IF you added all epsilon cars they did not out sell camry. And if you looked at retail sales it looks very bad.
You are so ignorant, it's ridiculous. :rolleyes:
 

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You are so ignorant, it's ridiculous. :rolleyes:
Sorry if i wanted korean car i would buy a hyndai. THey give you better warenty then gm. SO why would i want korean car from gm. Rick answer for high gas price bring daewoo here.
 

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That is why you invest money to upgrade them. You do not keep them for 43 years with out changing them. So stop making excuses for gm bad decisions.
Maybe it's because overly flexible plants are a waste of money 90% of the time. It's only during market swings like this that you need extra capacity. Having every factory able to produce everything is a massive waste of resources.
 

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That is why you invest money to upgrade them. You do not keep them for 43 years with out changing them. So stop making excuses for gm bad decisions.
Are you arguing that they didn't invest money in those 43 years? If so, you are flagrantly ignorant of reality.

Are you still arguing that GM should build unibody cars on BOF assembly lines in front of the fact that Toyota can't either?

What bad decision on earth or in fantasyland are you refering to? (in specific regard to manufacturing flexibility)
 

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Maybe it's because overly flexible plants are a waste of money 90% of the time. It's only during market swings like this that you need extra capacity. Having every factory able to produce everything is a massive waste of resources.
hahha waste of money. IS gm losing money or toyota. Is gm market cap 9b and toyota 160b. Now how is wasting money?
 

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Are you arguing that they didn't invest money in those 43 years? If so, you are flagrantly ignorant of reality.

Are you still arguing that GM should build unibody cars on BOF assembly lines in front of the fact that Toyota can't either?

What bad decision on earth or in fantasyland are you refering to? (in specific regard to manufacturing flexibility)
Ok they invested money fine, why didnt they make it flexible. Why is that only truck plant. Why is toyota indiana plant producing fwb minivan, suv, and a truck? who made that decision at gm just to keep it truck plant. Stop making exuses for poor gm management.
 

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Sorry if i wanted korean car i would buy a hyndai. THey give you better warenty then gm. SO why would i want korean car from gm. Rick answer for high gas price bring daewoo here.
VjDc make you for good aRgumint - PlEez youse SpeEL chick!

Or is Dat Rick fawlt 2?
 

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I don't like him, but he's right. It's kinda hard to argue that Toyota is a more intelligently run company.
That's a tough comparison. I'd like to see how Toyota would run a company that starts every year $16bil in the hole. The only real difference is Toyota doesn't have 100 years of legacy to deal with. They were able to start off manufacturing here with everything basically handed to them, ready to go.
 

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Ok they invested money fine, why didnt they make it flexible. Why is that only truck plant. Why is toyota indiana plant producing fwb minivan, suv, and a truck? who made that decision at gm just to keep it truck plant. Stop making exuses for poor gm management.
Again- it is a TWO ASSEMBLY line plant...

The measure of efficiency is how many cars you build on ONE (expletive) ASSEMBLY line.

The minivan is built on a separate assembly line. Either Toyota is sending the truck production to San Antonio to make Camry's or they are going to be building Camry's on the Minivan line.

Either way the net complexity does not change.
 
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