[New_Mexico_Sunset_on_Rt66]

It's a gimmick, plain and simple.

 

[Warwick44]

It's a gimmick, plain and simple.

It would seem like a gimmick until you drive a car with this system for a week. You will get back into your regular car and then it will seem like a pain to get the key out of your pocket and actually unlock the doors and have to put them in the ignition cylinder.

Remember when you had to walk over to the TV to change the station?

 

[chakis24]

so wait, how does it know its you approaching the car? and if sll u have to do is push a button to start the car, doesnt that make it that much easier to stea? unless there is some cutoff design to it. it just seems to me one less thing a criminal has to worry about

 

[01cavalier]

It isn't a bad idea, really. Though the push button start and the system to sense that the key fob is in the car may have problems, it eliminates having a mechanical part that can be troublesome at times.

 

[GMFreak8]

Am I the only one that likes taking a key out and turning the key to crank the engine? It's just not the same pressing a button. If I want to press a power button, I'll turn my computer on.

 

[Old Dood]

It isn't a bad idea, really. Though the push button start and the system to sense that the key fob is in the car may have problems, it eliminates having a mechanical part that can be troublesome at times.

It will not let you start the car and lock it while it is running. I tried this. This thing is no different then when they first came our with FOB remotes. They were new and only a few cars had them. Now they are common place. This will become common too.

 

[chakis24]

Am I the only one that likes taking a key out and turning the key to crank the engine? It's just not the same pressing a button. If I want to press a power button, I'll turn my computer on.

i concur.

 

[IROCNROL1]

Those are for sissies. Real men use a handle to manually turn the crank.

My F-150 is on it's last legs, so I have an aversion to spending much money on it. I have to turn the key to start, push down on the rod from the lock assembly to the ignition switch until the power comes on and then hit a button I installed on the dash because the original starting circuit fried. I'm then rewarded with a racecar like roar, because the muffler fell off. I like to think of it as a poor man's anti-theft system.

I hesitate to ask, but what catagory does that put me in?

 

[HoeyHimself]

Like everyone else said...just because it's cool..and some people find it really convenient, which is acceptable.

As for me...I kinda like the cars that you have to slim jim the door locks open, pop the hood, pull the battery cable for a minute, put the cable back on, crack the steering column open, mess around with a few wires, and then drive fast...like real fast. Thats the fun way.

 

[DuSpinnst]

BMW went kind of stupid with their push button start....

You have a keyless fob, you get in the car, you have to put the thing into a slot under the push button starter, then press the button to start it.

And they make you pay more for the "convenience package" or something so you DONT have to put the fob into the slot.

I mean cmon, you basically have to put a "key" into the "keyhole" and instead of turning the key you push a button......

The former isn't really a "pushbutton start" but rather an adapted "turn key start" They say the car has a "start button" but they never call it pushbutton start.

I'd think 90% of people who buy a BMW would get the convenience package assuming they know what it is.

 

[big swede]

Just like Warwick stated you don't realize how nice it is until you have used it. It's not a gimmick and no one can steal your car any easier, it's pure convenience. If you have to use the key for any reason then the system is a gimmick and pure show.

Most systems have a transmitter in the keyfob and when you get close to your car it recognizes that you are close and will unlock your door as soon as you lift the handle. If you walk buy your car and don’t lift the handle your car remains locked. If you get into your car and still have the fob inside the car your car will simply start with the push of a button.

It is extremely handy when you have your hands full or for women it ends the purse search looking for a key. I don’t see what all the disdain is for because I wish all cars would have this. It’s kind of like saying why have a key fob can’t you use the key to unlock your car, why have steering wheel controls can’t you reach 2 feet, why have head up display can’t you look at the guages etc...

 

[unkillsam]

When does a person become "too lazy" A lack of having to do anything for oneself is part of the reason why America and American's are become less and less self-sufficient.

I am not saying that keyless entry and push button start are a bad thing, but a line has to be drawn before we as humans evolve into brains encapsulated in withered bodies incapable of taking care of ourselves.

 

[Butz]

It would seem like a gimmick until you drive a car with this system for a week. You will get back into your regular car and then it will seem like a pain to get the key out of your pocket and actually unlock the doors and have to put them in the ignition cylinder.

Remember when you had to walk over to the TV to change the station?

We had less obese people back then


I see it now, Push button start causes 10% increase in obesity worldwide

 

[civilzues]

We had less obese people back then


I see it now, Push button start causes 10% increase in obesity worldwide

you called it! that made me laugh-thank you

 

[Smaart Aas Saabr]

This all started with the Honda S2000 several years ago. I never got the "wow" of it, I like my keys. I liked the old GM keys, the square one and the oval one... nice and small, fit in your pocket nicely, and worked well. I didn't get why GM changed the door locks from the square head to the oval one, that was stupid. (because before you'd just give the valet the square key, then he couldn't open your trunk)

Now all the keys are these huge hamburger-sized plastic monstrosities with laptop computers built into them and ****************e.

 

[likearock00]

I think this should be standard for all vehicles. I hate having keys. When I am at home, my keys stay in the ignition of my truck. I don't lose them, and I don't have to run back upstairs if I have to go somewhere. I hate going to stores, especially when I have my kids and have to hold their hands, and come out to dig for my keys. Nothing is more irritating for me. I would love the system that all you have to do is touch the handle and it unlocks for you- Mercedes or Lexus has it??

 

[shadams]

This is a perfect example of what I have always said. Something as simple as using a key is surpassed by not having to use a key, now all of a sudden vehicles without this technology (if you even want to call it that) are old and behind the times. So now people are choosing vehicles over something as inconvienient as twisting your wrist and totally overlooking the time and effort put into simply building a good car. It drives me crazy how spoiled we have become. How many threads do we have hear about _________ not having _________ and a base model _________ has it, when is GM going to get with the program, stupid GM.

 

[oppositelock]

It's a gimmick, plain and simple.

That's what they said for everything from power windows ("more stuff to break") to remote entry ("gimmick").

Use it for a month, and you'll never buy a car without this feature again. Guaranteed.

 

[oppositelock]

This is a perfect example of what I have always said. Something as simple as using a key is surpassed by not having to use a key, now all of a sudden vehicles without this technology (if you even want to call it that) are old and behind the times. So now people are choosing vehicles over something as inconvienient as twisting your wrist and totally overlooking the time and effort put into simply building a good car. It drives me crazy how spoiled we have become. How many threads do we have hear about _________ not having _________ and a base model _________ has it, when is GM going to get with the program, stupid GM.

Did you read what I posted further up? The convenience factor is huge. It's not just about replacing a twist motion with a push motion.

Old Dood is 100% correct. This feature will be standard on almost all cars in the future.

 

[GMFreak8]

That's what they said for everything from power windows ("more stuff to break") to remote entry ("gimmick").

All that's still true. Manual crank windows are more reliable than power windows, especially on older used vehicles. The more electronics, the more to go wrong. It's a simple fact.